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Title: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: just_me_mongo on April 09, 2012, 05:12:36 PM
Hello to all,

Well in regards to my last post, I waited until today as I agreed to.  At just after noon today, I received my call that my permit was ready and I now HAVE IT!!!  I drove to Lincoln to pick it up.

I stayed on top the situation & I believe that knowledge of the Ne Admin Code & Statute is what made the world of difference!!!

Knowledge = power.

My actual wait time was 48 calendar days.

Have a great one all!!!
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: HuskerXDM on April 09, 2012, 05:17:16 PM
Congrats!  Hopefully your experience helps others in the same situation.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: AlanS on April 09, 2012, 05:48:19 PM
Yes, congratulations! Great to hear!! Knowledge, indeed, is power  :)

Today is day 41 for me. Can you summarize again what steps you took -- I know I read it in another thread... was it basically a call to the CID office in Lincoln? Thanks for standing up for your (and our) rights!
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: omaharj on April 09, 2012, 07:07:59 PM
Good Job!  Thanks for pushing for our rights. Oh,and congratulations! I imagine a walk around Walmart is in your near future,heheh.  RJ
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: RedNeckson on April 09, 2012, 08:10:57 PM
Mongo --- OUTSTANDING!! "Squeak Squeak"  :laugh: --- did my squeaking today sent 3- emails out - 48 days and counting --- Neal
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: gsd on April 09, 2012, 08:26:05 PM
interesting, good knowledge to have seeing as how I am going to hang out with Mr. Zeeb for a day in a week.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: just_me_mongo on April 09, 2012, 10:20:59 PM
I started out by making a call in to check the status of my CHP.  Two weeks ago, I called and they would not give me any kind of idea.  They said it would take at least a few more weeks to get my application to processing.  I felt that nothing was really being done.

On day 42, I called to get an update.  The same story was presented- so I just let it go.  After finding this board & doing some research, I learned about the NE Administrative Code, CH-21, Sec. 009.01.  This is what made the situation better for me.

The NSP is to issue a permit in 45 calendar days after application submission.  This is true even if the background check has not been done (its subject to cancellation in the future).  The 45 days is also listed under authority of NE Statute 69-2430. 

On day 45, after reading through this information and this forum, I called and requested that my permit be issued.  When I read off the NAC & Statute, I didn't get anymore "it will be at least a few weeks."  The representative said they knew about this code.

What upset me most is that they still did not issue the permit.  They said they would need to check my background before issuing a temporary or permanent permit.  This clearly went against the above regulation and law.  They asked me to wait until today.  I agreed.

Today, I called in at 830am and asked to pick up my permit.  They said they had to wait until their person who has the experience in background checks came in to review my application (again against the code & law).  By 12:27pm, I received my call and I went to Lincoln.

Once I cited the NE Admin Code & Law; things finally were taken care of.

I believe that knowing the codes and statutes were the reason I received my permit today instead of many weeks down the road.

I still sent emails to our Governor, Attorney General, and Ombudsman.  I believe that the NSP just as anyone else should follow the law.

For this board, I used the example of license plates from another gentleman from my previous thread.  You renew them on time, and pay a fee.  If they are not paid on time; we are subject to: fines, jail, impound, etc.  You could tell a police officer that you have an overwhelming amount of bills to pay and can't pay for the plates- You still get a ticket.

The N.S.P. says that they have an overwhelming number of applications; I agree.  However, this does not nullify or void the NE Admin. Code & Law.

The N.S.P. should follow all codes & laws just as we do.

That's the story.

Thanks for listening!
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Dan W on April 09, 2012, 10:26:42 PM
The worst thing about this is that the NSP wrote the Administrative code
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Hardwood83 on April 10, 2012, 11:35:31 AM
"The N.S.P. says that they have an overwhelming number of applications; I agree.  However, this does not nullify or void the NE Admin. Code & Law."

Anyone have an idea on numbers? Mine was issued in Oct 2008 and is in the 850+ range, Last time I saw this discussed (year ago?) it was just over 6000 permits (if I recall correctly). 
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: UPCrawfish on April 10, 2012, 04:58:06 PM
Hardwood83,
The number I recall being given from a class recently was in the 17,000 range.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: AAllen on April 11, 2012, 12:38:21 PM
OK spent most of the morning chasing this issue around the Capital.   I spoke to the AG's office, who I was really just talking with since they have no control on this issue.  Then went to the Governors Office since he is in charge of the State Patrol and someone from his office is to get back with me.  Then went to the Ombudsman's Office, for the few of you who have sent in your issues this week, those are the first they have received.  I had a nice discussion of the issue with Carl Eskridge who is the investigator on this and let him know and gain an understanding of the history and the statutes (this was just given to him yesterday so he is just getting going.)  He already has a call into the State Patrol to get some information from them and when he has anything that can be publically shared he will send me a note so I can share it with you.  Believe me when I tell you he is taking this as a serious matter and will be chasing it down and trying to get the State Patrol to fix the problem.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: AAllen on April 11, 2012, 01:47:09 PM
Just got that call from the Governors Office, to help with this issue there has been more people hired (they lost some of the folks working in this area) and the Governor has authorized getting some temporary part time help to get things caught back up.  This extra help has just come on board so hopefully they will get caught back up soon.

There is some interest from the Governors office to work with us and the State Patrol to try to remove some of the limitations on who can get a Permit and what needs to be done before one can be issued.  So it sounds like I will be spending some time working with the Governors Office this summer trying to figure out how to make things work better and get a bill drafted for next year.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: omaharj on April 11, 2012, 02:05:38 PM
Good job Andy! Perhaps using the NICS system would simplify things for the NSP. I believe the background check  requirements are the same (?) and perhaps allow for a reduction in fees? Is the state criminal background restrictions for CHP the same as the Permit to Purchase?  Maybe the Sheriffs of Nebraska can give some pointers on speeding up the checks. hehheh. RJ
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: AAllen on April 11, 2012, 02:30:04 PM
Good input RJ, Yes I think that we can streamline the background check some and that is a big part of what the Governor is thinking.  Of course we make it less expensive to do the background checks then the price of the permit should also drop.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: bullit on April 11, 2012, 03:22:17 PM
Andy.. thanks for the leg work.  I am surprised at the comment about the AGs office having "no control" on this issue.  Is that your opinion or were you told that?  The AG is the CHIEF Law Enforcement Authority in the state and as such is tasked with enforcing the law.  In short, it is their job.  Just curious for clarification.  Either way, thanks for the feedback.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: metaldoc on April 11, 2012, 03:23:58 PM
Of course we make it less expensive to do the background checks then the price of the permit should also drop.

While it's something to hope for, it's probably not likely in face of the fact they are over run with applications at the current fee level.  Factor in the fact that governmental fees rarely decrease, it's doubtful we'll get a break.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: RedNeckson on April 11, 2012, 06:30:31 PM
Andy - I also want to thank you for your leg work ,time and being the point man. I hope some of the e-mails that we sent also was a help.  I sent 3,and I was polite (even though I didn't want to be  ::) )They can't say now that they are not aware of a problem.

  On the flip side of the coin, everyday that I open a empty mail box the more frustrated I am (50+ days) and have no confidence in the government process, I noticed that they processed my $100 the same day I applied. Anyway Thank You! ----- Neal
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: cruiser1947 on April 11, 2012, 07:16:21 PM
Andy, I also wanted to add my thanks to you for checking up on this.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: AAllen on April 11, 2012, 07:16:36 PM
Guys the emails and calls from you are what got things done, I just get to play the nice guy that is concerned and wants to help them out.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: RedNeckson on April 11, 2012, 08:07:22 PM
Andy - You deserve the "At A boy" it is a lot of work and energy plus the time to do what you do. - I know we all appreciate it. --- Neal   :)
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Chris Z on April 11, 2012, 08:52:21 PM
While it's something to hope for, it's probably not likely in face of the fact they are over run with applications at the current fee level.  Factor in the fact that governmental fees rarely decrease, it's doubtful we'll get a break.

State of Utah just dropped their non-resident concealed firearm permit fees from $65 to $51   :-)
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: metaldoc on April 11, 2012, 09:26:35 PM
State of Utah just dropped their non-resident concealed firearm permit fees from $65 to $51   :-)

Just goes to show... never give up hope!   (And a lesson to me to keep my pessimism to myself!)
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: AlanS on April 11, 2012, 11:53:26 PM
Thank you Andy!
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Les on April 12, 2012, 08:38:05 AM
59 days today.  I called for the second time at 56 and was told to give them "A couple of business days and they would take it out of the pile"  Maybe it will be here today.  Email was sent to the Ombudsman's office on the weekend, no response. 
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: AlanS on April 12, 2012, 09:29:48 AM
My 45 days is tomorrow. I guess I should call them (maybe today?) to get mine pulled from "the pile" ???
59 days today.  I called for the second time at 56 and was told to give them "A couple of business days and they would take it out of the pile"  Maybe it will be here today.  Email was sent to the Ombudsman's office on the weekend, no response.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: AAllen on April 12, 2012, 05:18:26 PM
I got a call from the LT Colonel in the State Patrol this afternoon.  There is general apologize all around, they admit they failed and are trying to do better.  They had 2 people involved with the processing quit at the same time etc. etc.

But the important point is they have filled the positions and are in the process of brining in part time temporary people to get this caught back up.  They do ask that if you are coming up for renewal to please file early, you can four months before your permit runs out.  They do not want anyone to get caught where due to their error they do not have a permit.  They also are starting to send out the permits at 45 days wither they have completed the processing or not, they have never done this before and are just putting things in place to get that going.

So the good news is that all of you who are overdue for your first permit you should be getting one soon, wither they have completed their processing or not.  Remember that if something shows up once they complete the checks they will be contacting you to send it back.

They will also be reviewing policies and procedures and if there is something that needs to be done Legislatively to fix this problem long term they will be contacting us to help write the bill to fix the issues.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: lefty on April 12, 2012, 05:28:07 PM
Thanks a million for your work AAllen!
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Les on April 12, 2012, 07:40:22 PM
Still nothing.  Ill call again tomorrow I guess. Maybe they'll give me my money back?  Lol
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: metaldoc on April 13, 2012, 10:51:35 AM
Thanks indeed,  AAllen!  Your face to face efforts with the NSP no doubt made a big difference in how this problem has been responded to.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: RLMoeller on April 22, 2012, 05:10:36 PM
Are they only sending these out at the 45 day mark now for those that call to inquire?  I know someone who is still waiting and is over 56 days now.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: AAllen on April 22, 2012, 08:22:27 PM
They should be doing it for everyone, but they are just getting it started.  If the person you know does not hear anything by the end of the week let me know and I will see if I can not get someone to track it down.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: SemperFiGuy on April 22, 2012, 10:53:46 PM
Fifty-four days and the meter is running on a five-day renewal.

Thought about complaining to my NE State Senator.    His name is.........

                             BRAD ASHFORD


sfg
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: RedNeckson on April 23, 2012, 12:53:28 AM
I was at 56 days when mine showed up - didn't make any calls just a couple e-mails - I would suspect that this person's will be showing up this week -- Neal
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Chris Z on April 23, 2012, 06:07:42 AM
Direct folks to call Colonel Sankey's office and inform them that they have not been issued their permit within the proper time frame. The Colonel's office will be getting tired of those calls real quick
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: AlanS on April 23, 2012, 09:29:25 AM
I called the CID office on day 44 (Thursday, April 12), date of issuance was the following Monday (day 48), received my first-time permit in the mail on day 50.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: JumpStart on April 23, 2012, 03:54:06 PM
I called on Friday the 13th day 45 was told 1-2 more weeks. Called on the 2 :laugh:0th day 52 she said was 30-50 people ahead of  give them a week our so. 
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: red71 on April 23, 2012, 06:14:26 PM
Fifty-four days and the meter is running on a five-day renewal.

Thought about complaining to my NE State Senator.    His name is.........

                             BRAD ASHFORD

My renewal got here 4 days before it expired....I thought 2.5 months would be plenty of time!


sfg
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: SemperFiGuy on April 25, 2012, 09:12:33 PM
My "5-Day" CHP Renewal Came Today.............

Here's the chronology:

28 February            Turned Application In to Troop A, Omaha  [4 months before expiration]

18 April                    Called CID, Lincoln.   Talked to Very Nice Lady.    She said she'd pull my
                                application and put it on top of the pile.

25 April                    CHP Renewal Came in the Mail    A total of 58 days for
                                a 5-day renewal.    Longer than some First-Time permits.


Not sure if the phone call did any good.   Maybe.    Maybe not.

Moral:    Start Your Renewal Application at the Earliest Possible Date


sfg
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Shootist on April 30, 2012, 01:58:26 PM
Went in today to file for my renewal.  They were very quick in processing me through.  The nice lady at the CID told me it should only take up to two weeks to get my renewed permit.  When I mentioned the 45+ day wait some experienced, I was told that was supposedly only for new permits.  We shall see how long it takes.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: predatorhunter on May 01, 2012, 04:52:59 PM
I went in to renew my permit on April 11. I received my new permit in the mail today May 1, 2012.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: PhilK on May 02, 2012, 10:49:01 AM
Renewal submitted March 6, 2012
Permit received May 1, 2012

Get those renewals in early!
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: JumpStart on May 04, 2012, 08:11:32 PM
Got my permit today 66 days since turned in was approved and mailed on May 1st.  Feels good to finally have it. 
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: fathertime on May 10, 2012, 09:48:47 AM
AAllen, It was suggested I post my experiance here, that you may be doing some tracking of issues.

So my first time permit, new, hit the 47 day mark and I called the NSP.
Got a hold of someone, mabye a Nacy?, who told me it was in a ready to permit status and could be another 2-3 weeks. I mentioned that at 45 days they were to issue, I called temporary, a permit and then do the background check. She didn't seem to know anything about that and after more discussion about the law and 45 days for a new, she was gonna go have my file moved to the front of the list and put a rush on it.
Another week went by and no permit. I called again to speak to the same women who stated they were working on early march applications. I applied Mar 16th. Again I mentioned the law and she stated she did not know what the law said. I mentioned it was on the NSP website, to which she replied she is not a NSP employee. Abit more discussion and I informed her I would be escalating this to a supervisor, to which I was told she would have them work my application tomorrow (today 5/10).

So where do I take it from here?
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: bullit on May 10, 2012, 12:26:58 PM
See Chris' post above....Contact COL Sankey's office today....
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: omaharj on May 10, 2012, 02:22:53 PM
   Well,as for me,they have about four years to get it fixed. I imagine I'll be my most charming self on day six of my renewal process wanting my permit. Whether or not my old one is expired won't be the point. The statute says after 5 days,so where is it? I lost my copy of Dale Carnegie's "How To Win Friends And Influence People".  I truly hope it gets straightened out before then, I dislike being upset. >:D  RJ
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Chris Z on May 10, 2012, 02:56:02 PM
And if the Colonels office doesn't seem concerned enough, then you should write the Governor's office
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: HuskerXDM on May 10, 2012, 05:27:48 PM
Did anyone have any luck with the state Ombudsman?
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Randy on May 10, 2012, 07:57:59 PM
Email all three Gov., Colonel and Ombudsman. 
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: RedNeckson on May 10, 2012, 08:09:40 PM
  I did 3 E-Mails - 1 to the Governors office, 1 to the LT. Governor and 1 to Ombudsman.
          A few days latter I received a phone call from the LT. Governor office, a few days latter my CHP showed up along with a letter from the Colonels office stating that he had received a call from the Governors office about my concern of my CHP not showing up in the legal allotted time. And then I received a e-mail from Ombudsman, I was not to impressed with the response from Ombudsman , I think I was at 56 days when I received my permit  - there you have it - Neal
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: huskersforever on May 10, 2012, 08:56:15 PM
I am 7 "calendar days" out from having mine.....sounding like it will be about 20 more days :( Will call the CID on Monday which will be 3 days before it should be in my mailbox
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: HuskerXDM on May 10, 2012, 09:29:57 PM
Red, if you don't mind my asking, what was the response from the Ombudsman?  I've never heard of this office at the state level before this issue came up. 
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: penname on May 12, 2012, 11:33:01 PM
Submitted my renewal request in Omaha April 23 and found the new permit in my home mailbox (Bellevue) today May 12. The renewal letter enclosed with the new permit was dated May 4.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Howard C on May 13, 2012, 10:02:36 AM
I’m still waiting on a first time permit. This Monday will be Day 48. I’ve called the NSP in Scottsbluff and have gotten the same song and dance that it sounds like everyone else has.

I guess I kind of look at it like Hunters Ed. I don’t mind taking the class. Let’s face it, there are people out there that shouldn’t even own a gun tell they get some instruction. But……then it should run as smooth Hunters Ed. Hunters Ed is the law and the “people” voted it into law. But it doesn’t cost to take a Hunters Ed class, and you get your card in the time frame the law states you will. (At least my kids did) And if they are so shorthanded, then they need to hire more employees. How tough is that to figure out? Where will the money come from?.....how about the tax dollars of the “people” that voted in the law. They wanted it…..have them pay for it. Who pays for Hunters Ed?
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Howard C on May 14, 2012, 05:55:36 PM
Day 48. Called the CID today. Got the same answer as I did last week. Application is approved…all they have to do is print the license. She said about another week……… :angry:
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Howard C on May 17, 2012, 01:16:42 PM
Day 51 "working" days.....still no permit  :angry: :angry: :angry:
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: RedNeckson on May 17, 2012, 01:44:53 PM
51 "Working" days is way out of line - Have you sent any e-mails out to the Governor,Lt Governor, and Ombudsman ? I think the e-mails will get more response. - Phone calls don't seem to have as much results --- Neal
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: wallace11bravo on May 17, 2012, 02:24:17 PM
Day 47.

I called the CID office and they are saying 2 more weeks. I politely asked about the statute, and said that I understand they are not intentionally being lazy, that I understand there has been a surge in applicants, and I am sure they are doing everything they can. She gave me a brief runaround about how blah blah blah, and I again politely referred to the statute.

I explained to her briefly about my situation in the neighborhood, and how I am witness to 2 violent, possibly gang-related, crimes and expecting a court summons. She said she would talk to her supervisor and call me back.

She called back in a couple minutes to inform me my permit will be in the mail tomorrow.

She also mentioned that they have received funding to hire temps and work Saturdays and Sundays to get caught up. Looks like all the calls to the NSP and Obudsman's office have produced some results.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: FarmerRick on May 17, 2012, 06:31:38 PM
Since Bruning is going to be Nebraska's Attorney General for a while...  and I'm ok with that, maybe he would be willing to take the bull by the horns and get some REAL improvements in this process.  I see no reason it should take any longer than what it takes to call in a NICS check when buying a firearm.  A 7 working-day turn around should really not be that much to ask.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Theodore on May 17, 2012, 06:58:48 PM
Keep after them!  Be polite - know the law - insist upon your rights - don't let them give you the runaround.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: omaharj on May 17, 2012, 07:52:54 PM
    Has anyone gone in on day 46 and insisted they receive their permit that day? If excuses are OK and being close to the law is OK,do I get a free pass for speeding on the interstate? I know the sign says 65,but, things are kinda hectic for me lately,is 75 close enough to the law?
   I'm not suggesting people get all hardcore about it,but it sounds like people are asking,please, if it's not too much trouble,can I have my 2nd amendment rights?  I look forward to the day when our rights have a greater priority.
   Mini rant over,heheh.
    Anyway, I have years before I renew,I'm sure I won't have to walk the walk, >:D :laugh:    RJ
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: just_me_mongo on May 17, 2012, 08:11:24 PM
RJ- I did it.  I didn't get it on day 45.  I asked for my temporary or full permit and cited the NE Code.  In the end I got it on day 48. 

Read my post titled similar to this post for the full story :-)
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: omaharj on May 17, 2012, 08:15:39 PM
RJ- I did it.  I didn't get it on day 45.  I asked for my temporary or full permit and cited the NE Code.  In the end I got it on day 48. 

Read my post titled similar to this post for the full story :-)
Good on ya!!!  Thanks,RJ
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Howard C on May 18, 2012, 05:37:37 PM
I have sent out SEVERL emails over the last few days, starting with the Governor. The only response I’ve gotten so far arrived today from a Lieutenant Shelton, at the NSP office.

“Mr. Christensen, thank you for your email of May 17, 2012 sent to the NSP Webmaster wherein you expressed your concern with the fact that you had not received you Carry Concealed Weapon (CCW) permit from the Nebraska State Patrol within the 45 day statutory limit.

The Nebraska State Patrol (NSP) is mandated by law to accomplish the task of issuing these permits and does take this responsibility very seriously. The Nebraska State Patrol has staff working extra hours to attempt to meet the enormous amount of requests that have come in for these permits.

Your permit was received on March 8, 2012 and has now been through the final administrative processing as of May 18, 2012 and is being placed in the state mail system as of that same date.”

Which is GREAT, but as I said, I was told two weeks ago that it was approved and only needed to be printed. It’s just hard to believe it takes two weeks to print an permit. I don’t know….maybe they should update their  printer if it’s that slow and then they wouldn’t be behind? LOL
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: SemperFiGuy on May 18, 2012, 10:47:48 PM
One interesting fact about the mandated 5 day renewal/45 day new permit is that there is no penalty in law applied against the NE CID Office, NE State Patrol, or anyone else if the permit is not issued on time.

It must be just a Class X Mini-misdemeanor.    With no penalty.   No fine.  Nothing.

Not even time on the Time Out Stool.   Or much of anything else.

Looks formidable on the books.   But the Guilty Parties will have no criminal record.

sfg
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: wallace11bravo on May 19, 2012, 03:07:06 PM
Got it today. That was damn fast.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Ram Ringer on May 19, 2012, 09:28:48 PM
I think I have a year to go before I have to renew, but maybe I need to start the process now. It sounds like NSP has dropped the ball and should have hired more people to process the permits. Especially if they wrote the Statutes. What is really sad is some of you guys are having to wait longer than I did for my security clearance to be processed when I went overseas. And I didn't have to provide that as many finger prints as we do for the CHP.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: just_me_mongo on May 21, 2012, 09:10:45 PM
One interesting fact about the mandated 5 day renewal/45 day new permit is that there is no penalty in law applied against the NE CID Office, NE State Patrol, or anyone else if the permit is not issued on time.

It must be just a Class X Mini-misdemeanor.    With no penalty.   No fine.  Nothing.

Not even time on the Time Out Stool.   Or much of anything else.

Looks formidable on the books.   But the Guilty Parties will have no criminal record.

sfg

Very well stated SFG.  I couldn't agree with you more.   

This goes back to the gentleman who I quoted about license plate renewal.  We better not dare renew our license plates even a day late or face the penalty....
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: HuskerXDM on May 21, 2012, 09:19:17 PM
Well the next step up from State Patrol would be the FBI, right?  Maybe we should be asking the FBI to ticket someone at the NSP   >:D
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: SemperFiGuy on May 21, 2012, 09:32:58 PM
Mongo:

Congratulations on your Brand New NE CHP.

Now.......Go for those other certs we discussed, as well.

And Everything Else.

There's never an end to the Learning.    That's the Wonder of It All......


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Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: bullit on May 21, 2012, 10:47:55 PM
Ram Ringer...you are not able to renew until within 4 months of expiration.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: gwilly on May 22, 2012, 09:25:55 PM
Initial CHP issued on day 60......after two polite & respectful calls to CID.
1st call made on day 45, second call on day 59. If not for the second call & getting "moved to the top of the pile" I'm sure it would have been another 3 to 4 weeks.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: HuskerXDM on May 22, 2012, 09:43:18 PM
Too bad the NSP doesn't follow the law and just issue all those permits to get caught up!  Once they printed all the licenses they could take their own sweet time to finish up the paperwork. 
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: UPCrawfish on May 30, 2012, 07:50:29 PM
Spoke to a nice lady at CID this morning and after telling her who I was and what I was looking for, she asked for birth date confirmation.  Heard the clicking of some keys and she advised that I was approved, paperwork was complete and my license should be in the mail by Friday. (today was day 54)

I await.......................................   
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Shadow Wrestler on May 31, 2012, 09:28:10 AM
Talked to the CID yesterday (day 45). Application was processed but hadn't been run through the background. Hear they lost a member unexpectantly due to medical reasons and that's pot hasn't been filled yet. She put a "rush" obit so well see how quick that rush works...
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: gsd on May 31, 2012, 10:20:59 AM
Today is 45 days for me, will be calling tomorrow, or stopping in person at CID office.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: HuskerXDM on May 31, 2012, 02:08:46 PM
Today is 45 days for me, will be calling tomorrow, or stopping in person at CID office.

One of my buddies called and set up a time to come pick his up.  I would recommend this, as you won't have to wait for the license to be printed.  He was assertive, yet nice and didn't have any problems getting his permit.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: gsd on May 31, 2012, 08:40:43 PM
One of my buddies called and set up a time to come pick his up.  I would recommend this, as you won't have to wait for the license to be printed.  He was assertive, yet nice and didn't have any problems getting his permit.

I was thinking about that.  Perhaps while on the phone I could politely ask if I can come pick up my temporary permit? Going off of name, ( and having one of the most common names on this green earth) it may take longer than the 45 in order to be approved.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: HuskerXDM on May 31, 2012, 08:43:28 PM
I was thinking about that.  Perhaps while on the phone I could politely ask if I can come pick up my temporary permit? Going off of name, ( and having one of the most common names on this green earth) it may take longer than the 45 in order to be approved.


Your name shouldn't matter... you could be Sadam Osama Bin Hitler Manson and you should get your permit in 45 days or less. 

If I were you, I would call, but don't ask about a time to come in... Huskersforever called in the morning and went in that same afternoon.  It doesn't take them long to print it.  Be nice, but you've hit 45 days and you should have your permit. 
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: gsd on May 31, 2012, 11:53:26 PM
Your name shouldn't matter... you could be Sadam Osama Bin Hitler Manson and you should get your permit in 45 days or less. 



oh hell now my stomach hurts from laughing.  so much for going to sleep!
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: gsd on June 01, 2012, 10:08:28 AM
Just spoke with a nice woman at CID. Approved and it is printing now. I'm going in at noon to pick it up.

She did say average is unfortunately about 60 days.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: RLMoeller on June 01, 2012, 10:24:54 AM
If what she tells you is correct, then it is coming down.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: gsd on June 01, 2012, 12:28:04 PM
You bet. Figure at least 3-5 days for mail, that means turnaround is only about 55 days.

Which is funny, because another member applied before me and has yet to recieve his.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: FarmerRick on June 01, 2012, 04:30:24 PM
You bet. Figure at least 3-5 days for mail, that means turnaround is only about 55 days.

Which is funny, because another member applied before me and has yet to recieve his.

Funny?  NO

Unlawful? YES

How are they allowed to continue to break State Law? ? ? ? 
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Husker_Fan on June 05, 2012, 10:48:02 AM
Because no one has sued them over it yet.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: FarmerRick on June 05, 2012, 05:39:47 PM
I spoke with the Governor last night, face-to-face about the problem. He was the Headlining speaker at our Washington County Republican Convention last night.

I explained that the State Patrol is not obeying the law, he said that he'd "look into it".

Not sure it will do any good, but we shall see.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: UPCrawfish on June 06, 2012, 08:52:32 PM
Spoke to a nice lady at CID this morning and after telling her who I was and what I was looking for, she asked for birth date confirmation.  Heard the clicking of some keys and she advised that I was approved, paperwork was complete and my license should be in the mail by Friday. (today was day 54)

I await.......................................

WELL........   Apparently the nice lady I spoke to Wednesday of last week was mistaken about my CHP being in the mail on Friday OR I failed to be more specific in my questions...  Like WHICH FRIDAY OF WHAT MONTH !!!! 

I still await (now into the 60+ day count)............
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: UPCrawfish on June 07, 2012, 10:32:39 PM
WELL........   Apparently the nice lady I spoke to Wednesday of last week was mistaken about my CHP being in the mail on Friday OR I failed to be more specific in my questions...  Like WHICH FRIDAY OF WHAT MONTH !!!! 

I still await (now into the 60+ day count)............

Official envelope arrived today !!!  66 days from submission of paperwork ...
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: tackle8 on June 08, 2012, 07:55:11 AM
I applied for a first time CHP in Lincoln this week.  They said I should expect to wait 60 days.   
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: HuskerXDM on June 08, 2012, 09:54:43 AM
I applied for a first time CHP in Lincoln this week.  They said I should expect to wait 60 days.   

Do not wait 60 days.
At or slightly before day 45, call and check on the status.  They'll tell you it isn't ready.  Schedule a time on day 46 or so to go pick up your permit.  And remember... calendar days, not business days.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: whatsit on June 25, 2012, 03:42:55 PM
I just applied today. Nicole in Lincoln helped me (and was very friendly and, aside from the $100 out of my pocket, she made it totally painless). She said that they just recently came back within the 45 day mandate and seemed genuinely pleased to report this. It sounded like they had worked real hard to get that done.

She didn't tell me a number, but seemed to indicate I should expect mine back within the 45 day time period in the law.

Also, she said she had an influx of applicants today (around 10 to 12 new applications, by noon, when I applied), so she wasn't sure if that would have an affect on my timeline.

Anyway, a big thanks to Nicole @ the NSP and here's hoping the long waits are over. :D
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Chris Z on June 25, 2012, 08:44:40 PM
I just had a recent CCW student tell me that he received his permit within 36 days of applying
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: gsd on June 26, 2012, 10:34:35 AM
Mine was picked up on day 46 Chris.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: CedarBill on June 27, 2012, 09:09:46 AM
I think I have a new record. 25 days from applying to it arriving at my door.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: tackle8 on June 29, 2012, 11:27:30 AM
 8)   23 DAYS!!!! 

Took Roger and Chris's class on June 2 in Lincoln.  Applied on June 6 in Lincoln.   The permit arrived today in the mail on calendar day 23!  They are doing much better!!!
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Scotty on July 03, 2012, 04:23:34 PM
I also took Chris & Roger's class 6/2/12, applied at the Lincoln NSP Criminal Identification Office 6/8/12 PM, permit arrived today 7/3/12...25th calendar day after application.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: just_me_mongo on July 08, 2012, 01:58:15 PM
Now that sounds really good.  If the process is truly going quicker- that's all I can ask for!  Congrats on your permits guys!
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Chris Z on July 13, 2012, 05:59:51 PM
Just got TWO reports from CCW students today that they received their permits today after applying on Monday June 25th

Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: whatsit on July 13, 2012, 06:36:43 PM
Just got TWO reports from CCW students today that they received their permits today after applying on Monday June 25th

Yep, I was in your class and applied on the 25th. I got mine in the mail yesterday.
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: bk09 on July 13, 2012, 11:04:26 PM
Hopefully mine was delivered to Lincoln if it was completed. I took the June 24th class and applied 8am the next morning, I changed my address with the postal service to my parents house this week and really hope it gets forwarded here. If it isn't here in Columbus tomorrow I will have to make a trip to Lincoln to start cleaning out my apartment and hopefully find it in the mail there... Didn't expect it for a couple weeks so I haven't broken down and ordered the Minotaur MTAC holster I want yet... BTW does anybody have experience with that holster?
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: Mikee Loxxer on July 14, 2012, 01:20:37 PM
Applied on 06/29/12, issued on 07/13/12. I count that as 14 days! Thank you NSP!
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: gibbs459 on July 14, 2012, 03:23:58 PM
5 years ago my wait time on a new permit was 2 weeks. This week my renewal was 6 days with the mail. Dropped off the application on Monday. New card was in the mail box today. I was told though on Monday, there would be a 4-6 week wait. When I stated the NE statue says 5 business days, and showed her the printout with the application, the lady just shrugged her shoulders and said "I know, but that doesn't mean anything. That's what I was told to say."


Hmmmm.......
Title: Re: 45 calendar days; UPDATE!!!
Post by: farmrboy on August 07, 2012, 08:41:45 AM
I would have gotten her name and the name of who told her to give that response and include that along with the statute in an email to the Governor. That clearly shows a disregard for the law by the group that is supposed to enforce the law. Granted, your renewal did show up in 6 days, but for them to tell you to expect to wait 6 wks isn't right.