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Ammunition & Hand Loading => General Ammunition Discussion => Topic started by: D1sclaimer on October 11, 2012, 10:39:20 PM
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I am taking my CCW class this weekend and needed to buy some ammo since my instructor doesn't allow reloads per his instructions. I stopped at Cabelas today before heading to ENGC to shoot.
I bought 4 boxes of Herter's brass cased (manufactured by Sellier & Bellot) 158gr 38 Special ammo. I've had good luck with their Herter's brass case stuff in the past so I figured it'd be fine. I shot 2 boxes today to test the ammo out and the other 2 boxes were gonna be for the class. I tried to pinpoint a specific slot on the cylinder, but on one occasion, 3 cases were split on the same cylinder loading.
This is just a heads up to stay away from this garbage.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img703/1074/dsc01771fr.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img443/4281/dsc01772vl.jpg)
One of the boxes had 10 case failures and 1 pierced primer.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img41/7767/dsc01764ao.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img99/861/dsc01767ga.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img248/4773/dsc01765b.jpg)
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Interesting thank you for the heads up.
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I've been doing some searching and it's popped up in a couple of threads that people have had cases splitting with new S&B 38 special brass. I wonder if there was a bad batch of brass or something recently.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/ammo/263386-ammo-alert.html (http://"http://smith-wessonforum.com/ammo/263386-ammo-alert.html")
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Wow.
That's... atrocious.
Glad you're alright.
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WOW!
For some reason I have always been leery of Herters and S&B never really appealed to me. Gut Feeling?
(Maybe so, I tend to keep it happy with bacon. ;) )
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D1sclaimer:
It would be a public service to shooters on your part if you would take this evidence back to Cabelas, get in touch with the store manager [not some clerk], and strongly recommend to them that they should take this ammo off their shelves and completely out of the store.
After that move, they wouldn't want to knowingly sell a known dangerous product to the public.
Some of the other yet-unsold brass might be even more brittle. And more dangerous.
sfg
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+1 on Semper Fi Guy.... Get Cabela's involved - NOW !!
I would not want to be in possession of this knowledge and not try to prevent someone else from having a similar or worse experience..
Be sure to explain to them that your experience did not reflect a gun or cylinder failure as you noted multiple failures in one loading.
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SFG just got all kinds of oodles of brownie points from probably most of the people of this forum, and from those he hasn't met yet. I know he just got a bunch from me :3 ... speaking of which, I think there's a thread of his that needs updating... sifting through forum time...
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I've saved the pictures of the brass (but not the branding).
d1sclaimer: do you mind if I possibly use the pics elsewhere as examples of what to look out for with bad brass etc ?
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UNFY........
Guess we won't be reloading any of that brass.
sfg
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wow... when you tell Cabela's maybe mention the NFOA? just a thought.
i never had problems with their 9mm or 40 brass ammo. maybe just a bad batch?
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d1sclaimer: do you mind if I possibly use the pics elsewhere as examples of what to look out for with bad brass etc ?
Feel free to. I don't mind.