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Handguns, Rifles & Shotguns => Handguns => Topic started by: KGillen on July 18, 2010, 07:32:16 PM

Title: Finnicky p95
Post by: KGillen on July 18, 2010, 07:32:16 PM
My Ruger p95 has never been picky on ammo, but recently it seems like every other round is a FTE. Its getting quite frustrating at the range, and it is supposed to be my home defense weapon (my other option is a P22 *sigh*). I'm feeding it the cheap stuff, which I always have. I keep it quite clean (though I am newer to the process). I'm wondering if it needs some more REM oil in the right places or what. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: Dan W on July 18, 2010, 07:52:35 PM
Just a guess but usually a FTE is caused by a weak extractor spring, worn or chipped extractor, or dirt in the extractor channel.

It can also be caused by a weak grip technique called "limp wristing" and by issues with substandard ammunition

I am not very  familiar with the P95, but here is a link that describes the extractor removal.

http://rugerforum.net/gunsmithing/197-p95-extractor-removal-how.html

I would not attempt this unless you are fully prepared to deal with the consequences.
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: DaveB on July 18, 2010, 08:31:12 PM
My wife had the same problem for a while when it was new. We changed ammo and that helped. What I found was that if I put more oil on the rails it would work much better.
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: Chris Z on July 18, 2010, 10:44:22 PM
Have you been loading all rounds into the chamber via the magazine?

In other words, not dropping any individual rounds in the chamber and releasing the slide?
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: KGillen on July 18, 2010, 10:48:40 PM
I've done both, when it fte's it stovepipes sometimes and tries to load the next round, a couple times I have pulled the slide all the way back, dropped the mag and inserted the round that was trying to load. Often times it fails to eject too.
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: JimP on July 18, 2010, 10:59:37 PM
I am not familiar with the p95 ..... but with some guns that have an internal extractor (most 1911's), dropping the slide on a chambered round means the extractor has to snap up over the case rim.... bad juju, that.
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: KGillen on July 18, 2010, 11:43:11 PM
That makes a lot of sense, thank you. I will put a stop to that practice immediately.
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: Chris Z on July 19, 2010, 06:43:27 AM
So you may need to have the extractor replaced if it has been chipped then.

Also check to make sure there is not a lot of build up around the extractor area, and that it is nice and clean (as well as the chamber)
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: KGillen on July 19, 2010, 01:29:23 PM
Will do. Today is my 7th in a row at work, but I have tomorrow off, planning on getting it taken care of tonight, and taking it out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: Slashhavoc on July 19, 2010, 03:13:53 PM
I have had one for a few years without any issues.  If you get tired of tinkering around on it and want to pick up a used one, PM me.   Good luck!
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: KGillen on July 19, 2010, 09:04:08 PM
Thank you for the offer, my fiancee will probably not let me buy a duplicate handgun when I'm supposed to be getting my first AR early next year lol. Also thank you for all the input, it really is greatly appreciated. I am really glad we have a group of like-minded individuals who are willing to be helpful to one another. I will keep you posted on the results, hell I do most of my posting via my phone anyhow, so I will let you all know as soon as I do.
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: KGillen on July 21, 2010, 02:55:42 PM
Didn't make it out yesterday due to weather lol. Should be going out sunday :(
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: Slashhavoc on July 21, 2010, 08:14:01 PM
I would struggle justifying that to my wife as well, unless i told her i was buying it for her!   That line worked for my last 4 acquisitions....  Hopefully , many more to come.
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: David Hineline on July 22, 2010, 09:19:30 PM
Put one round in the magazine and fire. If there is enough recoil to lock the slide open on an empty magazine then it has nothing to do with recoil spring or weak hand hold.

There are now 3 componants, the extractor tension is weak, the extractor is broken, there is a problem with the ejector or the feed lips on the magazines have spread such that the bullet tips are riding so high that the empty cases are hitting the tips of the bullets and being knocked off the bolt face before the slide goes back far enough for the empty case hits the ejector.
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: KGillen on July 24, 2010, 03:55:21 PM
Thank you, that makes sense. I'm taking it out tomorrow hopefully. I cleaned it so well it looks brand new, I'm really hoping that's all it was.
Title: Re: Finnicky p95
Post by: KGillen on July 25, 2010, 07:03:23 PM
Well, mixed results. I loaded and fired only 1 and it held the slide back, but out of the 2 mags I fired I had 1 FTE...so now I'm a bit confused. A good cleaning certainly helped, but didn't completely solve the problem. I guess something is better than nothing.