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Ammunition & Hand Loading => General Ammunition Discussion => Topic started by: Gary on May 22, 2014, 12:23:44 AM

Title: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: Gary on May 22, 2014, 12:23:44 AM
In south 27th street Walmart this evening, walking past the ammo display, I was surprised to see, everything, except .22LR.

They had so much .40 S&W they could not display all of it.    I did not notice anything missing except .22LR.

I picked up a 250 pack of .40 S&W, so I can train for an up coming class.   $92.  They had the same value pack in 9mm for $20 less. 

Nice to see ammo again.  Would be nice to see the prices the way they were before we elected the unconstitutional president from Kenya. 
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: NE Bull on May 22, 2014, 03:19:04 AM
Yes it is looking much better, BUT don't be deceived that due to someone raising a stink, all the stores in Lincoln were made aware of an old ordinance requiring ALL ammo be stored behind locks or inaccessible to the public.  Thus Wal-Mart's have stuffed all their shot shells with the cartridge ammo!


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Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: RobertH on May 22, 2014, 07:48:19 AM
yea, that ordinance is a joke.  maybe the NFOA could testify at a local hearing about it and get Scheels or Walmart managers to explain how much a of a nuisance it is.... its hindering them from selling product, meaning lower sales and tax income, not to mention having to buy and maintain locking cabinets for all ammo.
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: NE Bull on May 22, 2014, 08:17:18 AM
yea, that ordinance is a joke.  maybe the NFOA could testify at a local hearing about it and get Scheels or Walmart managers to explain how much a of a nuisance it is.... its hindering them from selling product, meaning lower sales and tax income, not to mention having to buy and maintain locking cabinets for all ammo.
I'm Game. But seriously, I don't think the powers that be in this town care about nuisance, or the selling of product, etc.  The taxes thing MIGHT catch their attention. The main thing is the ordinance is simply outdated.  IMHO
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: Gary on May 22, 2014, 10:47:49 AM
As NRA firearm instructors, and we have a few on this forum, do we teach people to keep ammo locked up when being stored?   How is having a store with 20,000 people through it in one day, any safer than your home where only family,  friends, and a statistical burglar once in a lifetime?

I ran a gun store many years, and I kept ammo behind glass without being told to by an ordnance,  because it was a safe way to do business. 

You walk around Wal-Mart twenty minutes and you will find a discarded package where someone stole an item, layed the package down, and walked out.  I see this often times, maybe because I own a store, and I am aware of theft problems.  Do we want people stealing ammo in Wal-Mart, or scheels, or anywhere?

Last evening a homeowner came home to a burglar in his home at 148th and Adams? ??   The thief was wearing the homeowners clothes.   

Ammo needs to be locked up at home, and in stores.  Just common sense.  IMHO.

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Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: OnTheFly on May 22, 2014, 11:53:17 AM
Regarding unlocked ammo:  One of the big problems is the inconsistency that these rules were being applied.  I know of at least one local gun shop that was approached and told that they needed to change the way they displayed ammo, while Scheel's apparently had not been told to do the same. 

Regarding the ammo shortage:  Attached is a photo of what I saw at WallyWorld a few weeks ago.  Definitely not the bare shelves that I have seen in the past.  Still no 9mm, but lots of other pistol and rifle calibers available. 

Fly
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: zofoman on June 29, 2014, 11:48:37 AM
Bringing this (OP) topic back to life with the following observations:
ARMSLIST...do a search for ammo and you'll see the hoarders/speculators (includes wal-mart employees) trying to dump.
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: Lmbass14 on June 29, 2014, 01:51:07 PM
Bringing this (OP) topic back to life with the following observations:
  • .22LR in stock @ Cabelas last week
    .22LR in stock @ Scheels Omaha/Lincoln  (scored some CCI HP Stingers in Omaha)
    .223/5.56 same thing both places
    .380  same thing both places
    .40 same thing both places
    Guns Unlimited appeared to have fairly full selection
ARMSLIST...do a search for ammo and you'll see the hoarders/speculators (includes wal-mart employees) trying to dump.

Was at Cabela's in La Vista yesterday, and they had all the 22 ammo inside the optics area.  A salesman would hand the box to ya.  Asked why, and they said that people were stashing them throughout the store then going back and getting them later.  This way the ammo last a lot longer.
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: farmerbob on June 29, 2014, 03:02:40 PM
The reason my local gun store is giving for the shortage of 22lr. is , the cat lovers are hoarding it all. :laugh:
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: GreyGeek on June 29, 2014, 05:51:10 PM
The ammo shortage may be letting up, but the new normal is 2XX to 3X the price pre-Obama.
http://ammoseek.com/ammo/22lr/-rimfire-40grains- (http://ammoseek.com/ammo/22lr/-rimfire-40grains-)

.22lr 40 gr 1070 FPS ammo starts at 10 cents a round and goes up.
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: OnTheFly on June 29, 2014, 06:10:10 PM
The ammo shortage may be letting up, but the new normal is 2XX to 3X the price pre-Obama.
http://ammoseek.com/ammo/22lr/-rimfire-40grains- (http://ammoseek.com/ammo/22lr/-rimfire-40grains-)

.22lr 40 gr 1070 FPS ammo starts at 10 cents a round and goes up.


The reason .22lr is still so high is because it is still scarce.  It appears to me that the 9mm is being offered close to what it was pre-panic.  Palmetto State Armory has been selling 9mm 115 gr at some pretty good prices. 

Fly
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: farmerbob on June 29, 2014, 07:17:54 PM
Today I purchased a 300 rd. box of 22lr. cci for $19.95 at Wally World, limit one box per customer. It wasn't that long ago the shelves were packed with boxes of 500 rds. for around $5.00.
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: OnTheFly on June 29, 2014, 07:43:35 PM
500 rds. for around $5.00

500 rounds for $5.00?!  :o  I don't think I ever found that price.  I bought several 500 round boxes for around $13.00 at WallyWorld and Scheels.

Fly
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: bkoenig on June 29, 2014, 08:24:18 PM
500 rounds for $5.00?!  :o  I don't think I ever found that price.  I bought several 500 round boxes for around $13.00 at WallyWorld and Scheels.

Fly

When I was a kid I used to buy it for $5.00/500 as the S&S store where my mom worked (precursor of Bomgars for you small town folks).  Plus I got at 10% discount.  :)
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: tstuart34 on June 29, 2014, 08:32:34 PM
I have never bought 22lr that cheap from walmart.... cheapest is golden bullets for 9.99 per 225 and Federal bulk for 23ish. I'm not old enough for the 5 for a penny. ;D
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: farmerbob on June 29, 2014, 08:50:54 PM
Maybe I'm older than I think or it was around 10 dollars for 500 rds, probably the latter.

What I've noticed is all ammo around here is back to normal except 22lr, 22mag and the 17cal rounds.

Most around here say it's in short supply because some are buying it up for reselling at a profit.
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: OnTheFly on June 29, 2014, 09:07:29 PM
Maybe I'm older than I think or it was around 10 dollars for 500 rds, probably the latter.

I'm not calling you old, but...  ;D

I am pretty sure I have a bulk (500 rounds?) of Federal .22lr that is marked $12.95 from Walmart before the (most recent) panic.

Fly
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: farmerbob on June 29, 2014, 09:15:45 PM
http://joeforamerica.com/2014/06/coming-crash-ammunition-prices/ (http://joeforamerica.com/2014/06/coming-crash-ammunition-prices/)
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: SS_N_NE on June 29, 2014, 09:22:05 PM
If the ammo is on a shelf, I pick it up and take it to the cash register. If the ammo is locked up, a salesperson hands it to me and I take it to the cash register.....either way, it is in my hands.

edit: Locked up, it may shield access from minors otherwise not allowed to purchase or otherwise handle ammunition in a store. 
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: ILoveCats on June 29, 2014, 10:11:02 PM
The reason my local gun store is giving for the shortage of 22lr. is , the cat lovers are hoarding it all. :laugh:

I don't get the joke, but maybe I'd better not ask for an explanation.

I think it's too soon to say whether the shortage is getting better. There have always been good and bad weeks throughout this shortage, and I think last week was pretty good. Yes, Cabelas LaVista had lots of .22 on hand Friday but I passed it by.

Still a long way to go though. Being able to buy "some" ammo is way different than having the full selection we used to. If there's some specific factory load you absolutely must have, especially something kind of obscure or exotic, finding that particular load is still pretty much impossible.
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: shooter on June 29, 2014, 10:18:54 PM
 a longtime before walmart, even before K mart, I bought 22 ammo at 49 cents a box of 50.  from a coast to coast hardware store.
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: bullit on June 30, 2014, 07:35:32 AM
For some historical reference.....  I was buying Blazer Brass and Remington Green Box (UMC) .45 ACP at Wal Mart for $9.54/50 rounds as recently as 2007.  As recently as 2008, I was buying same brands of 9 mm Luger (9x19) at WM and Dick's for $6.95/50
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: OnTheFly on June 30, 2014, 07:43:44 AM
For some historical reference.....  I was buying Blazer Brass and Remington Green Box (UMC) .45 ACP at Wal Mart for $9.54/50 rounds as recently as 2007.  As recently as 2008, I was buying same brands of 9 mm Luger (9x19) at WM and Dick's for $6.95/50

Sale or regular price?

We have to factor in inflation and the rise in current component (metal, lead, etc) costs due to supply & demand. That will leave us with the "panic factor" of price increase.

Fly
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: bullit on June 30, 2014, 09:50:00 AM
Fly...those were regular prices for the most part at that time.  I think Dick's in DFW has a .50 cents off per box on the 9 mm at the time, but I hardly call that a sale.  I do understand supply side economics, inflation, etc, but I feel the "panic factor" and the "idiot who will pay too much" factor is the biggest driver today.
Title: Re: Is The Ammo Shortage Nearly Over?
Post by: zofoman on June 30, 2014, 07:55:12 PM
(Sigh).....was at Guns Unlimited (again) today....

American Eagle .223/55g FMJ @ $8.79/20   
Winchester Power Point .22LR/42g Copper HP @ $5.99/50  (limit 200 rds per...though they had bunches)
Pallets of other stuff available.

*Winnies are manufactured in Australia.