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General Categories => Carry Issues => Topic started by: FarmerRick on June 04, 2009, 10:28:39 PM
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Please post in this thread any anti-CCW businesses that you encounter, and also, any that have "seen the light" and taken down their NO GUNS signs.
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Anti-CCW(NO GUNS signs):
Frogs Copy & Graphics
11204 Davenport St
Omaha, NE 68154
Precision Bearing Co.
4611 S 96th St
Omaha, NE 68127
Wicks Sterling Trucks?
10502 S 147th St
Omaha, NE
Bag 'n Save
156 & Blondo St.
Omaha, NE Still has "non-standard" no guns sign up, most of the rest in Omaha are gone.
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BagNSave on 17th and Vinton is gone. Has been for the past almost 2 months. The reason is this,,,,, One of the head distrct managers of BagNSave overheard a friend of mine and I discussing their no ccw policy. I told him that if I got hurt or assualted that my family would be the new owners of the stores. I also told him that if I died while being assualted and couldnt defend myself or others,alot of peoples that get hurt during a robbery or assualt would be also owners of the stores and make a policy change on the ccw debates for no-guns,,,,, no money stores. rich17z@cox.net
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All the Omaha Werner businesses out at the interstate are posted, including Werner Cycle and their new surplus store.
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Anti....
American Red Cross -- roughly 84th and Center ---Omaha
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Bosselman's
The Truck stop at Wood river i-80 interchange and the Pump and Pantry in Doniphan are posted, We'll kind of posted, the sign in Doniphan is about 10' to the left of the entrance area.
I guess I will have to get my gas and soda's elseware. I'll boycot all Bosselman's
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Bosselman's
The Truck stop at Wood river i-80 interchange and the Pump and Pantry in Doniphan are posted, We'll kind of posted, the sign in Doniphan is about 10' to the left of the entrance area.
I guess I will have to get my gas and soda's elseware. I'll boycot all Bosselman's
Great for a business who sells shotgun shells and hunting permits. "We will profit off you, but not welcome your guns." Bosselmans is an overpriced ****hole like Caseys.
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The Douglas theater chain, at least some of them in Lincoln, were posted for no concealed carry. However, since they were bought by Marcus, they have taken down the signs. :D
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The Douglas theater chain, at least some of them in Lincoln, were posted for no concealed carry. However, since they were bought by Marcus, they have taken down the signs.
May I be so bold as to take credit for the signs coming down after Marcus Theatres took control.
This is my letter to Marcus Theatres...
Mid 2008
To whom it may concern,
I had previously sent this email to Douglas Theater Company of Lincoln, NE. Now that Marcus Theatres owns these theatres, I was wondering if your company could address my questions.
When I recently took my daughter to the Edgewood theater, I could not help but notice the "No Concealed Firearm" notice conspicuously placed on your door. As an informed parent of this day and age, I am concerned about the safety of my children. Much to my 11 year old daughter's chagrin, this was my primary reason for attending a G rated movie with her. I'm sure you are aware, there have been many events in the local and national news regarding mentally distraught individuals carrying firearms into known "gun-free-zones" so that they could massacre innocent people and be in the headline news.
While I believe your efforts to create a safe environment are of the highest intent, seeing this sign only brought questions to my mind. I'm hoping you can alleviate my concerns. Other than the posting of the aforementioned sign, what steps are taken by Marcus Theatres to insure that no weapons are brought into the theaters?
I ask this because the Westroads mall in Omaha, NE was a similar "gun-free-zone"; however, this did nothing to protect the victims of the recent shooting. I am concerned that you are forcing the responsible, law-abiding, adult concealed carry permit holders to disarm while doing nothing to ensure a mentally ill individual is prohibited from entering the theater with a weapon. Moreover, the sign which is intended to create a safe environment only advertises a killing zone to such individuals who want unarmed victims in mass quantities. In the absence of the sign, a killer will know there is a potential for the intended victims to protect themselves. If Marcus Theatres would still like to display a sign, maybe a better alternative would be one that read "No concealed weapons except for concealed carry permit holders".
It is my opinion that Marcus Theatres, by posting a sign in its current format, has completely accepted responsibility for myself and my families protection against such heinous crimes. If your company is not willing to bear the weight of such liability (whether legally, morally or financially), then I would ask you to consider letting citizens, who have met the legal requirements to carry a concealed firearm, be responsible for their own safety.
Here was their response...
Thank you for contacting Marcus Theatres,
I am very sorry it has taken so long to respond. Your comments are very important to us. We will be taking the signs down today.
Thank you,
Bridget Hughes
Guest Relations Coordinator
Fly
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Well stated Fly, but you were not the only one that had sent letters.
When Douglas Theaters were purchased by the larger, Marcus Corporation many of the signs came down immediately as it is not Marcus Theaters policy for this signage.
http://www.marcuscorp.com/
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Well stated Fly, but you were not the only one that had sent letters.
You couldn't just let me have a little slice of happiness, could you? ;D
I suppose you are correct. I take back my strutting and fanning of my tail feathers.
Fly
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Fly with out dought you are the recruitment man.
Were you an Army recruiter in a past life?
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GO ARMY!
No. Sadly I never served.
Fly
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How about this ....... Anti Second Amendment..........The Omaha City Council >:(
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When I contacted the Douglas Theater group, I was also thanked for my concerns and told that though they realized the signs were not effective for their intended purpose, it was the insurance rates that they based their decisions on. Apparently, the insurance companies feel that if the signs are up, the company may avoid some liabilty for any shooting that takes place in the establishment. Insurance rates translate into ticket prices, ticket prices into attendance figures, attendance figures into gross revenue. Though I'm pleased with the signs coming down, I can't say that I blame Douglas for their actions. What would you do?
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What would you do?
Get another insurance company, and I'm not being glib. There are thousands of businesses that apparently have a different insurer.
Fly
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I can and do blame Douglas for there actions. They could have gone to a different Ins. Provider and told there current to pound sand.
What would you do if your Ins. Co. pissed you off.
There are multiple Insurance companies in this country.When I contacted the Douglas Theater group, I was also thanked for my concerns and told that though they realized the signs were not effective for their intended purpose, it was the insurance rates that they based their decisions on. Apparently, the insurance companies feel that if the signs are up, the company may avoid some liabilty for any shooting that takes place in the establishment. Insurance rates translate into ticket prices, ticket prices into attendance figures, attendance figures into gross revenue. Though I'm pleased with the signs coming down, I can't say that I blame Douglas for their actions. What would you do?
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I tend to agree with Randy here. I would like to see the posting of the green circle with the pistol in it posted all over town(s) !
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Yes, the businesses should get a different insurer. Also Nebraska laws should be molded after the Texas laws: A business has a right to post, but if they post they are liable and responsible for the safety of all their guests and people on their property, since by posting they took away the ability of the public to protect itself. Hence, you don't see alot of signs in Texas.
By the way very nicely written letter OntheFly.
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The Bosselmans at Elm Creek is also posted, and outside of the state, I was shocked to see the Taco Bell in Holton, Ks posted...
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Schaffers in Lincoln is posted. Stopped by there tonight as our refridgerator kicked the bucket - very motivated buyer and would like to support local businesses when possible. Their sign is prominently posted at the door, so I went back to the car and secured my firearm. Went in and asked for the owner, he wasn't there. Told the sales person about our situation and that we are buying a new appliance, but not from them. She was really disappointed, said that she agreed with my view but that there was nothing she could do about. She said that she wasn't sure why the owner posted it, but said that this wasn't the first time this has happened. I asked her to tell the owner - maybe he can explain why his policy is taking money out of her pocket! >:(
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I don't know for sure if Ron Romero (the guy who does their TV commercials) is the actual owner of Schaeffer's. I think he is, at least a partial owner. I'll try to find out, though. He was a high school friend and poker playing buddy of mine many years ago. Even if he's not in control, maybe he can enlighten me as to the reason they have posted. I, too, am disappointed, as Schaffer's was otherwise a pretty good, and convenient for me, place to do business. If he is in charge, or at least has any influence on the matter, maybe I can convince him to take them down (like our theatres did).
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long story, very short, "The Matt" http://www.themattomaha.com/ is not gun friendly. I called last Saturday to ask some general questions. I then asked if they had a no guns policy. To which the pantie wearing liberal said "why would you carry a gun." Technically because they serve alcohol they may be on the restricted list anyway. I didn't want to drive across town, walk 3 blocks and then have to walk back to the jeep just to secure my gun, so I thought I'd ask.
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As promised, I emailed Ron Romero of Schaeffer's TV and Appliance, to question why the business is posted. I got an email back from Ron today saying he was out of town for the week, but that he was going to have a response for me once he got back and had a chance to meet with his team. To me, this sounded like he at least was willing to discuss the matter. That being the case, I offered him this for the team to ponder:
Since you are meeting with your team, and presumably will discuss the matter of posting the store against guns, I?d like to offer this for everyone to mull over:
There is virtually no risk from allowing Concealed Handgun Permit holders into your store. Statistically, CHP holders are less likely to commit a crime than law enforcement officers are. They have all demonstrated that they can handle guns safely and proficiently, and the last thing they want to do is draw attention to themselves or to cause others who may be fearful of guns to have any reason for concern. Those who come into your store carrying despite your posting against it, pose a great risk. Though we don?t want, or look for, a reason to use our handguns, most of us are prepared and willing to defend ourselves and other innocent people should the need arise. If anything, for safety?s sake, you should welcome CHP holders into your establishment.
I'll let you know when I hear anything.
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jdaffer, I have had lunch at The Matt a couple of time, did not see any no guns signs. But the establishment really seems to turn more into a bar after the lunch crowd. My guess they would get more than 50% from alcohol...
May be an excuse to go have lunch there again and check it out.
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a & h - thanks for the follow up on Schaeffers. Seems like we make more progress when people who know each other talk about the issue than when complete strangers try to talk about them.
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You're welcome, Roper. I like doing business there, and they are very close to where I live, so I hate having to go somewhere else when I need something they carry. However, a week or two ago, my microwave oven bit the dust. My wife wanted to meet me at Schaeffer's the next day at lunch time to pick out a new one. I talked her into going to Sam's Club using the "better price" argument. She would have thought it was dumb to "boycott" anyone over the gun issue. Women! Oops. I'll probably hear from some now! :-\
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I guess if I owned a business I would find one that gave me a good price without a gun ban sign.
I kind of believe in my rights and being the owner of a business while MAYBE paying a little more wouldn't change my opinion.
My right to "keep and bear arms " along with all of my other rights are more important than what's in my wallet.
So I personally won't do business with those that believe what's in their wallets are more important than my rights.
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As promised, here is an update on Schaefer's TV and Appliance posting situation.
Ron Romero, president of the business, wrote me today. Since he and I were old friends, the email was somewhat personal, and I will not duplicate it here. However, here is the reasoning behind his choice to post the business. Some time ago, they had a customer come in who was carrying a handgun in a holster under his jacket. He had some kind of a beef concerning a purchase he had made with them, and he became quite beligerant and abrasive toward the female employee who was trying to help him. In the process, he drew his jacket back intentionally to show his gun, presumably to scare her into a favorable disposition of his complaint. She was scared, and went to her manager for help. The manager was able to appease the customer, and no further threats or violence actually occurred. However, a number of the employees were shaken by the incident. Ron's legal council advised him that by posting against guns, he might make his employees feel a bit safer, and would be able to show that he had taken steps to provide a safe work environment for them should any further incidents occur and result in injuries or death. There are probably some OSHA concerns that come into play in that regard, too, though I don't know specifically if that is an issue. I think that is where the legal council was focusing as well as any possible civil suits that might come from a shooting incident.
Now, we all know that the signs aren't going to protect people in the store. In fact, most of us believe the store would actually be a safer place if it allowed CHP holders to carry while shopping there. Still, the property owner has just as much right to refuse guns on the place as we do to carry in public.
I didn't try to change Ron's mind, but I did make some suggestions. First, rather than posting against legal CHP holders, why not put up a sign that bans all guns. If making his employees feel safer was really the issue, I'm sure they would rather not have people coming in with AK47s over there shoulders and 45s on their hips in plain sight. I also reminded him that his sign had absolutely no legal value regarding people who were carrying concealed without a permit. They would already be breaking the law, and a silly little sign would not only be useless, but it would also have no legal consequence for the person should he be found carrying in the store. (No additonal charges as a result of the posting.) Also, by banning all guns, it would not make law-abiding CHP holders feel they were being discriminated against or that they would be at a disadvantage should someone come in carrying in the open (with unknown intent).
So, I doubt if anything will change at Schaefer's, and though I'd rather they didn't post, I'm pleased that Ron would at least explain his stance. By the way, reading between the lines, it seemed as if he might actually be saying he didn't care, personally, if CHP holders carried in the store as long as the weapons remained concealed. However, with the sign remaining, I would not take the chance of being "made" while there because the police may not care even if Ron came to bat for me and said it was okay.
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What would you do?
Go to a theater that is not posted.
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http://binaries.concealedcarryforum.com/ccwsign/1.pdf (http://binaries.concealedcarryforum.com/ccwsign/1.pdf)
Found that on another forum, thought you guys would get a kick out of it. Print them out and hand them to the businesses you run into that won't let you carry, so they know why you won't be doing business with them.
Page 1 is the front of the card, page 2 is the back. Someone could probably even throw the NFOA logo on there somewhere, if they wanted to.
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Wow, I love those cards! thats a good idea.
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Wow, I love those cards! thats a good idea.
Here's one that I made up a while back: http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1362028&da=y (http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1362028&da=y)
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Those cards are fantastic! I needed something to leave at a wolf feeding ground! ;D
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I should have mentioned, these are setup for Avery "clean-edge" business cards(#28877) that I bought at ChinaMart for about $8 for 120 cards.
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Went this last weekend, no firearms sign posted at gate. Just mailed him one of the cards.
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Bosselman's has ordered removal of all signs according to an email from their owner. Let me know if you see any signs in their stations
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No Frills Supermarkets in Bellevue (1510 Harlan Drive and 909 Fort Crook Road North) are posted for no handguns.
Also the Taco Johns at 1314 Harlan Drive in Bellevue (same shopping center as the No Frills) is posted.
Update 11/29/09: The Taco Johns was not posted when I was there today. I don't know why they removed it but I'm happy as it's one of my wife's favorite fast-food joints so I have to go in there sometimes. :)
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Thanks Nick, and welcome to the NFOA forum
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Bosselman's has ordered removal of all signs according to an email from their owner. Let me know if you see any signs in their stations
I'll check around the west. If this is true, I will start buying gas and goodies there again.
Dan, did we contact them about this? Why the change?
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in Lincoln, LaPaz (mexican place entirely owned & operated by white people) is posted... kinda bummer about that one.
we really need to organize a campaign by city targeting places that really shouldn't be posted. maybe target 10-20 companies in each city....
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Bosselman's has ordered removal of all signs according to an email from their owner. Let me know if you see any signs in their stations
A member from Elm Creek asked them about the signs and they reviewed and found that not all had been taken down. Then the boss got wind of it, and sent out someone to make sure that all their facilities signs had been removed.
I am acting a little on faith here...if any NFOA member finds out these signs have not been removed , please let me know right away.
I'll check around the west. If this is true, I will start buying gas and goodies there again.
Dan, did we contact them about this? Why the change?
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in Lincoln, LaPaz (mexican place entirely owned & operated by white people) is posted... kinda bummer about that one.
we really need to organize a campaign by city targeting places that really shouldn't be posted. maybe target 10-20 companies in each city....
I think the color of the owners is irrelevant , just eat elsehwhere... I like Tico's...never been a sign there
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No Frills Supermarkets in Bellevue (1510 Harlan Drive and 909 Fort Crook Road North) are posted for no handguns.
Also the Taco Johns at 1314 Harlan Drive in Bellevue (same shopping center as the No Frills) is posted.
Update 11/29/09: The Taco Johns was not posted when I was there today. I don't know why they removed it but I'm happy as it's one of my wife's favorite fast-food joints so I have to go in there sometimes. :)
The No-Frills at 84th and Giles is posted no carry, but you really have to look for the sign. Its a small 2 inch by 3 inch tall sign tucked away in the corner of one window. Only one sign, and small enough to miss if one is not looking closely for it.
Ron
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No Frills Supermarkets in Bellevue (1510 Harlan Drive and 909 Fort Crook Road North) are posted for no handguns.
Also the Taco Johns at 1314 Harlan Drive in Bellevue (same shopping center as the No Frills) is posted.
Update 11/29/09: The Taco Johns was not posted when I was there today. I don't know why they removed it but I'm happy as it's one of my wife's favorite fast-food joints so I have to go in there sometimes. :)
The No-Frills at 84th and Giles is posted no carry, but you really have to look for the sign. Its a small 2 inch by 3 inch tall sign tucked away in the corner of one window. Only one sign, and small enough to miss if one is not looking closely for it.
Ron
Is the word "conspicuously" not in the Law? Does it mean anything? In the world I live in, "conspicous" means "easily seen or noticed, or attracting attention"....... if I have to look for it, it ain't conspicous.
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Yes "conspicuously" is in the law. I'm not going to advise you to ignore the legally insufficient sign. If you do and you get a ticket that will have to be your defense. Remember though, an untested defense is almost as good as no defense at all, so the only ones that will get rich from your mistake is the criminal defense lawyer (not my specialty). However, since you know about the sign, conspicuous or not, you are on notice so, your defense just slipped a few more notches.
I know I've walked into a store where the sign wasn't posted well, and I saw it on a later visit. Almost walked into the bank today with my concealed weapon. Didn't feel safe going naked, and didn't want to be inconvenienced walking back to the truck, locking up my weapon, then going back to the bank unarmed, so I just got back into my truck and took care of business at the drive through and didn't care that the people behind me were inconvenienced because my transaction took a long time.
As our organization and the number of CCWs grows, we will become a force to be reckoned with, until then, keep handing out the cards and taking your business elsewhere.
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This is posted under "Prohibited Places And Premises"
018.01G Financial institutions as defined by Nebraska Revised Statutes
? 8-101(12);
This is the definition:
018.02 A financial institution, notwithstanding Section 018.01G above, may
authorize its security personnel to carry a concealed handgun while on duty so
long as the security personnel have a concealed handgun permit and are in
compliance with the law.
The way I read this is that it is illegal to carry a concealed gun in a bank in Nebraska unless you are security. I also read somewhere that it is a federal law if the bank is FDIC insured.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
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No Frills Supermarkets in Bellevue (1510 Harlan Drive and 909 Fort Crook Road North) are posted for no handguns.
Also the Taco Johns at 1314 Harlan Drive in Bellevue (same shopping center as the No Frills) is posted.
Update 11/29/09: The Taco Johns was not posted when I was there today. I don't know why they removed it but I'm happy as it's one of my wife's favorite fast-food joints so I have to go in there sometimes. :)
The No-Frills at 84th and Giles is posted no carry, but you really have to look for the sign. Its a small 2 inch by 3 inch tall sign tucked away in the corner of one window. Only one sign, and small enough to miss if one is not looking closely for it.
Ron
Is the word "conspicuously" not in the Law? Does it mean anything? In the world I live in, "conspicous" means "easily seen or noticed, or attracting attention"....... if I have to look for it, it ain't conspicous.
Not sure if No-Frills really cares about what the law says, seems that they all have signs posted (at least from what I read here). I dont have my CCW yet (applied last Friday), but I do notice that I am looking for the sign more and more now days. Time to get some cards printed I guess.
Ron
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Perhaps I don't want to know the answer to this question.
I went to Westroads Mall yesterday and looked for "No CCW" signage and I could not find it. As an out of towner, it was not on the main entrance doors, not on Von Mauer doors, and I didn't see it in the parking lot. I didn't see it anywhere.
Is it posted somewhere?
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Can we agree that we are under no obligation to go above and beyond the law in disarming ourselves?
Conspicuous signage is required. If you have to go looking for it then it by definition is not meeting the requirements set out in the law.
I will not waste any more of my time in an attempt to disqualify my self from the benefit of armed self defense.
When I walk through the door, and no conspicuous signage is present ,I feel confident that I have met my obligation, and until I am informed differently by the management, I feel that I have broken no laws.
It is not my intent to ignore legal signage, but the burden of legally notifying me of a CCW ban rests with those that put up the sign
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I stopped at Ideal Grocery and Market at 905 S. 27th in Lincoln the other day to get some cheese and they have posted no carry signs. Too bad, I really like their cheese selection.
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I could agree more Dan. If the sign is not put up in the right place the burden is off my shoulders and is on them. If I don't see it where it is supposed to be then I also feel that I have every right to carry concealed.
Furthermore, I was really surprised on my trip to Texas that I saw more No carry signs in Oklahoma than anywhere else. I would have thought they would be more pro then anti. Maybe I was in the wrong place. In Texas I have seen none. Kansas I saw one.
Can we agree that we are under no obligation to go above and beyond the law in disarming ourselves?
Conspicuous signage is required. If you have to go looking for it then it by definition is not meeting the requirements set out in the law.
I will not waste any more of my time in an attempt to disqualify my self from the benefit of armed self defense.
When I walk through the door, and no conspicuous signage is present ,I feel confident that I have met my obligation, and until I am informed differently by the management, I feel that I have broken no laws.
It is not my intent to ignore legal signage, but the burden of legally notifying me of a CCW ban rests with those that put up the sign
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I could agree more Dan. If the sign is not put up in the right place the burden is off my shoulders and is on them. If I don't see it where it is supposed to be then I also feel that I have every right to carry concealed.
Furthermore, I was really surprised on my trip to Texas that I saw more No carry signs in Oklahoma than anywhere else. I would have thought they would be more pro then anti. Maybe I was in the wrong place. In Texas I have seen none. Kansas I saw one.
I used to travel to Texas for work a lot and the only place I ever saw a no handguns sign was in banks, but that's the line of work I'm in so that's probably the only reason I noticed it. I've always liked Texans, they're good people.
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This is posted under "Prohibited Places And Premises"
018.01G Financial institutions as defined by Nebraska Revised Statutes
? 8-101(12);
This is the definition:
018.02 A financial institution, notwithstanding Section 018.01G above, may
authorize its security personnel to carry a concealed handgun while on duty so
long as the security personnel have a concealed handgun permit and are in
compliance with the law.
The way I read this is that it is illegal to carry a concealed gun in a bank in Nebraska unless you are security. I also read somewhere that it is a federal law if the bank is FDIC insured.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
69-2441. Permitholder; locations; restrictions; posting of prohibition; consumption of alcohol; prohibited.
(1)(a) A permitholder may carry a concealed handgun anywhere in Nebraska, except any: Police, sheriff, or Nebraska State Patrol station or office; detention facility, prison, or jail; courtroom or building which contains a courtroom; polling place during a bona fide election; meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or other political subdivision; meeting of the Legislature or a committee of the Legislature; financial institution; professional or semiprofessional athletic event; building, grounds, vehicle, or sponsored activity or athletic event of any public, private, denominational, or parochial elementary, vocational, or secondary school, a private postsecondary career school as defined in section 85-1603, a community college, or a public or private college, junior college, or university; place of worship; hospital, emergency room, or trauma center; political rally or fundraiser; establishment having a license issued under the Nebraska Liquor Control Act that derives over one-half of its total income from the sale of alcoholic liquor; place where the possession or carrying of a firearm is prohibited by state or federal law; a place or premises where the person, persons, entity, or entities in control of the property or employer in control of the property has prohibited permitholders from carrying concealed handguns into or onto the place or premises; or into or onto any other place or premises where handguns are prohibited by state law.
Are you asking if you can normally carry in a bank/financial institution if it is not posted and you are not one of their security guards? If so, then no. It is prohibited as listed in the excerpt above. Let me know if I am misunderstanding your question.
Fly
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I agree with Dan 100%. Those who choose to carry are not the only group who need to know the law and follow it to the letter.
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Kabredlos at 156th and Q street has a hand typed / written sign on the door stating no concealed weapons on the premises. I just noticed it last week when I stopped in to get gas. I've not contacted them yet
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Here are some business cards FarmerRick made up that you can use.
http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/view.php?id=1362028&da=y
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in grand island: valentinos on webb road. ampride on webb and old potash have the "victim zone"... i mean "no guns" signs up still. so i dont eat or get my gas there anymore.
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On the front page there is a link to the "Unfriendly Business List".
FastSigns in Omaha is listed there. I think there are two locations in Omaha. The one on 96th and L Street is not posted. I don't know if there is another reason they are listed, or if the other Omaha location is posted. I wanted to point out that I was in that area last week and could not find a sign on their window that denies carry on their premises.
Rod
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Glenns Corner Market in Auburn, Nebraska has now posted "No Firearms Allowed" signes at the enterance of the store.
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Fast Signs on North 114th Street is posted. Each ship is independently owner I believe. ::)
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I went to pay the phone bill in Beatrice, Windsteam had a sign up, but was down for several months, now up again. I asked the ladies in the office what they feared about law abiding citizen, got the usual rant about people don't need guns. The Altel cellular office had taken down theirs, and now with Verison, it's still not posted. Anybody know if their local Windstream offices are posted...
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Went to the Henry Doorly Zoo in Omaha on Saturday, they were posted. I'm pretty sure they were not posted a few months ago so they must have added it recently. Been buying annual memberships there for years, but not this year.
edit: So after I post this I see the zoo in a list on another page on this site (not in forums). Sorry.
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Taco Bell in Columbus is posted as no CCW.I contacted the manager at the time and was told I needed to talk to the real manager who was not there. I tried a couple of times and ended up calling the Corporate office and have not heard back from them.
Taco Bell Corporate contaced the Taco Bell in Columbus who inturn contacted me (finally) . The manager seemed pretty how shall I say it , miffed that she even had to deal with the issue. She claimed it was Corporate policy and she did not have a problem with it, however she did not just want her business singled out and said the KFC, Burger King etc are also posted, I will have to verify. I informed her that CCW permit holders go thru an extensive background check and are law abiding people. I asked her what she knew about her othe customers, That did not seem to concern her. She said her concern was that she has young kids working there and a customers gun could be knocked of safety, and someone could get hurt. I then told her the same could happen to a police officer, she said yeah it could it's kinda funny when it happens. I told her I did not think it was funny. I do not think that she bought my arguments and I told her I could not do business with Taco Bell which I felt was a shame. She did not seem to really care.
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Henry Doorly Zoo was posted last year (spring, summer, or fall?) when I took my kids to the zoo.
Fly
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Conestoga Mall and
Best Buy in Grand Island.
People were real nice, but the wife and I were kind of pressed for time so I didn't have a very long conversation with security on my way out. He said he agreed that it was a silly policy and just disarmed the victims. Have been by once since then and now see they have posted signs. I was open-carrying at the time.
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This shopping center is located at the southwest corner of 120th and Center in Omaha. It covers the area 120th St. - 124th St. - Westwood Avenue - Center St. It includes a rather large number of stores, anchored by a Baker's Supermarket, where my Lovely Bride is a devoted shopper.
The entire shopping center is posted w/Anti-CCW signs [as noted on the master list elsewhere in this forum], but in a rather peculiar way.
They have posted the standard No Concealed Weapons Slashed-Out Pistol sign at the street entrances to their parking areas. So--while you're pulling in off the street and into the parking lots, you are passing the No Concealed Weapons signs. Only you're not looking for them yet. At these parking lot entrance locations they don't really register on the conscious mind, because they kinda look like No Parking signs. At least, subliminally.
At their present locations, they're in kind of an unusual place, because we are conditioned to look for Anti-CCW signs at the actual doorway entrances to individual shops, stores, and businesses.
However, the individual shops and stores aren't posted w/Anti-CCW signs at all. Not that I saw anywhere, that is. So--once you're in past the parking lot entrances and onto the premises, it appears that the stores and businesses aren't posted at all.
It's tricky.
I just happened to see the signs at the parking lot entrances the other day on the WAY OUT.
I'm clammin' up at this point.
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I saw these signs last week while passing by on my way from Scheels, to Cabelas via Canfields'.
Didn't even take the time to look to see what stores were there, the signs had already said that they didn't need my business. Couldn't help but think it looked like a great place to keep the sheep all warm and fuzzy!
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I would ignore them. They are not in compliance with the law. Each store needs to post conspicuous notice at every entrance to the building.
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Dropped off a NFOA "No Money" card at the Napa Auto parts in Bellevue the other day, didnt read the web page telling about them having chosen to be a Criminal Empowerment Zone. I wont be returning, there are several auto parts stores in the Bellevue area that allow CCW.
Ron
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I submitted an anti, Accurate Communications, 2215 Harney, Omaha a few weeks ago but still not listed at the association's listing, so I'll put it here as well.
The no firearm sign at Accurate Communications, 2215 Harney St in Omaha is just inside the employee entrance door.
If any of you own or operate a business and desire to hire a message center, please go elsewhere.
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Sorry, I must have missed that one. It's up now
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the Super C convenience store on 10th street, between Pioneers and Van Dorn in Lincoln has removed their sign.
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Walmart Supercenter Store #867
3322 Avenue "I"
Scotts Bluff, NE 69361
(308) 632-2666
Signs posted at the entrances. Even though a few months ago, an argument in the parking lot between a group of people lead to the stabbing death of one of the individuals a few blocks from the store.
As of 4/18/10 the signs are gone...
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I would contact their manager, then their district manager. Walmart is supposed to be pro-ccw and have NEVER seen a sign at any Walmart before.
a quick google-ing of "Walmart CCW policy" resulted in this find, I cannot verify it's authenticity:
Here is a letter regarding Walmart's policy on CCW:
DATE: Friday, April 16,1999 2:13 PM
Subject: RE: Firearms
Thank you for contacting Wal-Mart regarding our concealed handgun policy. Wal-Mart was founded by Sam Walton on three basic principles. Strive for Excellence, Service to our Customers, and Respect for the Individual. It is that respect for the individual that led us to create the current policy pertaining to concealed handguns.
The following is our policy......If a Wal-Mart customer has been awarded a concealed handgun license by the state government, Wal-Mart will follow the direction of the state. However, if at anytime while on Wal-Mart property, that customer's concealed weapon becomes visible to Wal-Mart associates or customers, Wal-Mart reserves the right to ask the customer to either reposition the weapon so that it will not be visible, to remove the weapon completely or to leave Wal-Mart property, With the exception of law enforcement personnel, Wal-Mart does not allow any exposed weapons to be worn or carried in public view on Wal-Mart property or in Wal-Mart stores. Customers other than law enforcement personnel wearing or carrying a weapon in an exposed manner will be asked to leave the property immediately.
We appreciate your concern and trust that this message has addressed your concerns regarding this issue.
Thank you,
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.
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I would like to add to the anti-ccw establishments that are here in western nebraska... the Monument Mall 2302 frontage rd. Scottsbluff,NE. 69361 and Charter Cable co in Alliance,NE. 69301
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Pumpers, a convience store & gas station in Grand Island has a sign up in the window facing the inside of the store so you see it when you leave rather than before you come in.
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Village Point movie theater, which is a Marcus Theater, is still posted. It is not in a "prominent" place, as it's stuck up on the glass above the doors. Don't know how long it has been there, but we just noticed it the other day. And I'm sad. I will probably call them this week, especially if the other people got a letter from Marcus saying the signs would come down.
EDIT: Apparently my husband has been trying to call the theater and can't reach a person. Will post again if we get any results.
EDIT AGAIN: Ok my husband just called the the theater, and spoke with the same woman who ordered all the signs taken down in July 2009 (Bridgette). She said that the regional director has, within the last few months, sent out notices recommending that the theaters put them back up "for the customers' safety". So the theaters have begun posting again. She was, however, either unwilling or unable to confirm that this is actual corporate policy. So some theaters may not still be posted.
I guess we can't go to our favorite theater anymore... :(
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Also, and I can't believe that this one isn't already on the list, but Guns Unlimited in Omaha is posted that all guns must be secured in a case.
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I wonder if the Walgreen's defense in Omaha will change any minds?
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UPDATE: A good one this time.
According to Bridget at Marcus Theaters, NONE of their theaters are allowed to restrict concealed carry. She said they do NOT post signs, and that the one at the Village Point location in Omaha was an oversight from when they took the theater over from Douglas Theaters, and she assured my husband that the sign we saw last weekend was removed today.
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Whew! My kids and I frequent that theater often and never noticed it posted. Thanx to you and your husband for the follow-up.
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Roc's Stop & Shop gas station at 2100 South 56th Street in Lincoln is posted. I believe another Roc's I went to was also posted, but I don't remember which one. I'm assuming this is a corporate policy for Roc's. Also, the Kwik Shop across the street at 2040 South 56th Street is also posted. Needless to say, I don't patronize these retailers.
Fly
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Guns Unlimited told me that with a CHP it's okay to carry concealed...so I do!
Also, and I can't believe that this one isn't already on the list, but Guns Unlimited in Omaha is posted that all guns must be secured in a case.
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Guns Unlimited told me that with a CHP it's okay to carry concealed...so I do!
On the phone yesterday he told me, "Well it says above the door all guns need to be secured in a case but I guess if we don't know you have it concealed then we can't really do anything about it."
I'm GUESSING if they SAW it, rather than kicking you out or calling the authorities they would just ask you hide it or something. But I can't be sure, since technically they ARE posted. :(
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Is there a direct link to add a business?
This is the letter I sent today with a card...please add this Pizza Hut to the list.
Pizza Hut Manager April 28
17845 Pierce Plaza
Omaha, Ne 68130
I am a resident of Ashland and my kids and grandkids live near your Pizza Hut. We all really appreciate your $10.00 pizza deal.
I ordered Pizza last night and when I arrived, I saw your ?No Weapons? sign posted I was saddened to see your policy that will keep me away from your store. Walgreens should be fresh in your memory.
I will call ahead and ask before I order next time with the hope you change your policy. If the policy has not changed, I will go elsewhere. I encourage you to read the backside of the enclosed card.
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Bosselmans pump and pantry in St. Libory is marked with a no firearms sign.
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WE have been around this block before...
Hello,
Do you folks think the Webmaster can remove Bosselman Elm Creek from the gunowners unfriendly business list?
I spoke with Fred Bosselman about 6:30PM on Sept. 30, 2009. He sent the below email to me the next morning. Fred assured me on the phone the Bosselman corporation was not anti-gun. He explained to me that someone from their safety department put up the "NO GUNS" signs shortly after Nebraska's CCW law passed. Fred explained to me he did contacted their corporate Safety Director, and explained Bosselman's position on the CCW issue, and directed the signs be taken down. Apparently they missed the ones at Elm Creek. Please excuse the oversight.
Thank You,
D Phelps
Sidney, NE
--- On Thu, 10/1/09, Fred Bosselman <fred.b@bosselman.com> wrote:
From: Fred Bosselman <fred.b@bosselman.com>
Subject: RE:
To: "Mike Daniels" <mike.daniels@bosselman.com>
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 7:54 AM
thanks Mike, you may want to check the other locations. D you can fix the web site now
Fred A. Bosselman
President
Bosselman Energy Inc.
3123 West Stolley Park Road
Grand Island, NE 68801
308-381-6900 Office
308-380-0779 Cell
402-845-6668 Home
From: Mike Daniels
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:53 AM
To: Fred Bosselman
Subject: RE:
They are taking them down right now.
Mike Daniels
Travel Center Division Manager
Bosselman Travel Centers
ph. 308-381-2800
Cell 308-227-9673
Fax 308-382-1160
mike.daniels@bosselman.com
From: Fred Bosselman
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:36 PM
To: Mike Daniels
Subject:
had a guy call me about Elm Creek is listed as unfriendly to gun owners, must still have a sign up saying no concealed guns allowed. We took all of the signs out of the P&Ps. He said let him no if it comes down and he will fix the web site
Fred A. Bosselman
President
Bosselman Energy Inc.
3123 West Stolley Park Road
Grand Island, NE 68801
308-381-6900 Office
308-380-0779 Cell
402-845-6668 Home
I will send another email to Mike Daniels about this
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Fer Cryin' Out Loud, What Are We Comin' To???........
Even the Fremont GUN SHOW was posted No Concealed Weapons this past weekend.
It's Heck on Earth when your Own Kind turn on you.
[Even at that, the rumor around the show was that Someone popped off an Accidental Incidental Discharge Round on Saturday morning. Shoulda let CCW's clear all the firearms. For a Small Fee.]
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I stopped back in after I was done working. Asked to speak to the manager, who was not there. Told the desk clerk about the conversations with the bosses, and to tell the manager she would be contacted about removing the sign.
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D. Beans Coffee (fka: Jones Coffee) at 727 South 11th Street, Lincoln, NE 68508 is posted.
Sent the following to D. Beans via Facebook...
Greetings,
I was on a bike ride through your area and planned to stop and have coffee with my mother. Upon arrival at your store, I noticed the "No Concealed Carry/Firearms" sign in your window. I am a strong supporter of Second Amendment rights and I can not morally support a business who refuses to recognize this right. Consequently, we went to a different shop for our coffee.
I understand that your intent is to provide a safe environment for your employees and patrons. However, if you look at it logically, you have done exactly the opposite. To a criminal, the sign says "Welcome...Unarmed victims inside".
The individuals who have taken the time and expended the funds necessary to obtain a Concealed Carry Permit are some of the most law abiding citizens in our community. Furthermore, since the inception of the Concealed Carry Permit, there has been NO proof that these persons present any threat to others.
Some businesses insist that the signs are a requirement of their insurance company. If this is your situation, I would suggest changing insurance companies that have less of an anti Second Amendment mentality for one that derives their rates by logically analyzing the facts about individuals who legally carry concealed firearms. Or simply notify your current insurer that their requirement is opposite the intention of reducing crime and you are considering insuring elsewhere.
In the mean time I will post this communication on the local firearms owner's association forum and eagerly await your reply which I will also post.
Sincerely,
Greg Lamb
Fly
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Dolphins Car Wash in Omaha is now posted as no concealed weapons...
If I was carrying that day I went there right after work, I would've been super pissed off. I went to get my car washed and after the kid took my car and started driving it to the wash I got out and started walking towards the door when I noticed the sign.
What the hell would they expect me to do if I was carrying? I can't leave it in the car (nor would I want to, since they have total power over it) since I already let them take it. Would they expect me to stand outside the entire time and ask the clerk to come outside to take my payment? Gee, I wonder if people would figure out why I wasn't going inside? That's just a terrible business model. They should have signs at the point where you're telling them what wash you want and if you want gas or not, not on the damn door after you've given your car to their employees and signed up for everything.
I would've just left if they didn't already have my car in the wash after I saw the sign.
I won't be going back.
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KWIK shop in Elkhorn has removed their sign!
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There is rumor that other Kwik Shops in the Lincoln area have removed the signs. I have not been to one to find out for myself. Maybe we need a firemission...
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I was at a Kwik Shop in Northeast Lincoln today and noticed the signs were gone. I didn't go inside to ask though.
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funny bit of info: now that I have seen many kwik shops sans anti-gun signage, I have not read of them in the news, Yet, now that Kabredlos have become free crime zones, just this weekend one of their stores was robbed at gunpoint.
Hmmmm. what a ca-winky-dink :)
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I was trying to find an email address for Kabredlo's so that I could suggest that they check their "No concealed weapons" signs because I think they might be defective.
Fly
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you know..... the cenex by 27th and superior is anti-gun. however, if you use your cabelas card, you get 2% back. now, if cabelas was truly 100% for conceal carry wouldn't they want those cenex gas stations to allow conceal carry? should we pursue this?
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Netties' Fine Mexican Food at 7110 Railroad Ave in Bellevue, Ne are strong supporters of concealed carry! They have a decal from the Frontsight Firearms Training Institute on their front door. I believe that says it all!
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Netties' Fine Mexican Food at 7110 Railroad Ave in Bellevue, Ne are strong supporters of concealed carry! They have a decal from the Frontsight Firearms Training Institute on their front door. I believe that says it all!
This... I spoke with one of the owners today and they are big time believers in CCW and boy do I love me some Special Burrito...
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Tommy's diner in Grand Island is anti-gun
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I went out to eat at the Kobe Japanese Steakhouse in the Regency Court shopping center in Omaha tonight. The Regency Court Mall had a "No weapons" sign posted on the entry way. The Regency mall is not listed as being anti gun but they clearly are.
On the other hand------Nettie's Fine Mexican Food now proudly displays the NFOA sticker I obtained in Grand Island!
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Where is Netties located...I need to visit them soon Ooops I found it posted above
Netties' Fine Mexican Food at 7110 Railroad Ave in Bellevue for us blind users
PS I shoulda given you one of the 6" ones. I have to remedy that soon
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+1 on Netties, I'm nearby there on Fridays, the kids and I may have to stop by patronize their establishment!
DID YOU HERE THAT ALL YOU ANTI's?!! I'm gonna give them my moneys.
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+1 on Netties. We go there at least once every couple weeks.
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I just came back from eating at La Paz at 321 North Cotner and on the way out noticed that the "No CCW" sign was gone from the door. I didn't see a sign posted anywhere but need to go back and take a second look. Maybe they finally woke up.
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Cultiva Coffee at 11th & G
Here is the message I just left on the owner's Facebook account...
Greetings,
I was on a bicycle ride through downtown this spring and I intended to enjoy some of your coffee and baked goods. I was disappointed to arrive and see a "No Concealed Weapons" sign posted near your entrance.
Because of this sign, I was not allowed to enter your establishment. Many business owners intend to provide a safe environment for their employees and patrons by posting such signs. I commend you for your intent, but I must question your method. The law abiding people who you are stopping at the door are not the ones who are a threat to you or your customers. It is the criminal with intent to do harm who is going to ignore your signage that you should be concerned with. By what magical properties does such a sign stop a criminal with a weapon from through your front door?
I eagerly await your reply on how your sign improves the level of safety for Cultiva.
Sincerely,
Me
We will see if he replies.
Fly
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I just canceled my Costco membership and sent them an e-mail telling them that I had done so because of their no concealed carry sign in the Omaha store and because of how they handled their involvement in the Erik Scott incident in their Summerlin, NV store.
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I noticed American Tire Distributor is posted and Lincoln Truck Center is posted! Where do they think all those out of town truckers are going to put thier guns while the truck is being worked on?
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I noticed American Tire Distributor is posted and Lincoln Truck Center is posted! Where do they think all those out of town truckers are going to put thier guns while the truck is being worked on?
What makes sense to me about this is that they trust their employees less than they trust legal gun owners.
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Can any member in the Gothenburg NE area confirm removal of the no CCW signs from the Randazzle restaurant and the Sinclair station across the road?
I has been reported by a Colorado CCW'r that the signs are gone, and I would like to confirm before removing these businesses from the list.
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The Buggy Bath-BP Station on West O Street in Lincoln is posted. I'd been getting gas there every Sunday for 9 years and then quit. Told the manager that I couldn't do business there anymore and why.
The Phillips 66 on 14th and Old Cheney in Lincoln is not posted. I started getting gas there. Closer to my house anyway.
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I've noticed most all Phillips 66s are not posted.
What was the manager's reaction?
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I've noticed most all Phillips 66s are not posted.
What was the manager's reaction?
There really wasn't one. She just kind of laughed-like she thought I was kidding or something. I told her after 9 years of coming in there like clockwork every Sunday to fill my truck up with gas, I couldn't come there anymore because just driving on their lot made me criminal.
Git n' Split on West O Street (Sinclair Station) is not posted either.
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I have a small motorcycle repair business and I also carry when & where I can. I have a sticker on my door that says: We Welcome Gun Permit Holders. I have had a few looks at it but no one has said anything yet. You can see and get the stickers at: www.nogunsnobusiness.com. This is a site started by a guy in Tennessee.
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I've been to Wheatfield's in Omaha twice now. Not posted. I carried there the first time I went.
Great food...by the way. :)
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Auto 1 Towing, RJ's Towing, and Auto Smart Car Repair (all located at 63rd and Grover) are all PRO CCW and open carry for that matter. I would even bet that if you are needing a car towed, a car repaired, or are looking to buy a car, you might even get a discount for carrying. :tool:
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Jay, may I suggest you post a few of these signs --- see attachment ---
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I just ate at LaPaz in Lincoln again this evening. At first, I thought they had removed their signage against guns, but then I noticed they still had a sign on the upper right corner of the second set of doors you have to pass through. I think it was moved, but not removed. :(
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Can any member in the Gothenburg NE area confirm removal of the no CCW signs from the Randazzle restaurant and the Sinclair station across the road?
I has been reported by a Colorado CCW'r that the signs are gone, and I would like to confirm before removing these businesses from the list.
Since I am the fellow who reported the removal, I had hoped by now that someone would have been able to have confirmed the removal.
Any chance now that the board allowed me to have Associate member status that the Sinclair station and the restaurant can be removed from the list?
I was really impressed to discover that the owner removed the signs after I spoke with him by phone, so it is too bad his business is still on the list.
Ron
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Ron, I have changed the list, and struck the two businesses from it.
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MT. Fuji Inn at 72nd and Blondo St. in Omaha has a homemade no CCW sign on their door.
I didn't notice it until we were leaving, I was not carrying as I had planned to consume a Mai Tai.
Greg58
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I was at Rick's Boatyard this week and they are posted for no weapons so I dropped a card in the "Card Bowl".
Rick's Boatyard is down by the Qwest Center in Omaha.
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I work at a convenience store here in lincoln, and about 6 moonths ago i noticed all of our signs came down as well.
Kwik Shop is carry friendly, guys. Only downside is it's against company policy for clerks to carry whilst on the clock.
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I work at a convenience store here in lincoln, and about 6 moonths ago i noticed all of our signs came down as well.
Kwik Shop is carry friendly, guys. Only downside is it's against company policy for clerks to carry whilst on the clock.
There was rumor of that being the case, but If you confirm Kwik Shop is carry friendly in all the stores, I will make sure that is noted on the list.
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Michael's Arts & Crafts at Southpointe in Lincoln is posted with a criminals welcome sign. I swear, I didn't go there willingly! My wife made me!
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There was rumor of that being the case, but If you confirm Kwik Shop is carry friendly in all the stores, I will make sure that is noted on the list.
The signs are down in the five that I have been in. I will get solid verification and get back to you.
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Kwik Shop is carry friendly, guys.
thats the best advertising campaign i have ever heard of. i will go there more often.
is that all Kwik Shops or just certain ones?
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I am still waiting on confirmation from higher up. They were all in a meeting over the last couple days, so hopefully monday I will have a solid answer.
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Michael's Arts & Crafts at Southpointe in Lincoln is posted with a criminals welcome sign. I swear, I didn't go there willingly! My wife made me!
Uh huh. Whatever you say Mr. Multigun Scrapbooker... ;)
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Does anyone know if the Embassy Suites in Lincoln is pro-criminal? I have a convention there this week and don't want to have to do the "crap, have to go back to the car" dance at 7am!!
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This may have been covered before. The Cornhusker hotel in Lincoln is not posted but when you go to the parking connected to the Hotel there is a sign stating "no guns or knives" placed there by the City of Lincoln, the owner of the parking lot.
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Embassy Suites is NOT posted in Lincoln, Omaha, nor any other location I have visited.
The Cornhusker IS posted at the main entrance (free standing sign in alcove by restraunt (sp?), as well as parking garage entrances (although it is backwards to those entering from the garage). It does mention the city ordinance (which doesn't apply to CHP holders) AND also has the state statute listed (which does apply to CHP holders). I have thought about many times over the past few years of contacting the Marriot Corporation who owns the Cornhusker and discussing this with them. I have NEVER seen another Marriot hotel with signage in any state I travel. Furthermore as a Mormon owned company, I would be surprised if corporate knows or would approve as they tend to be very pro-gun peoples.
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Uh huh. Whatever you say Mr. Multigun Scrapbooker... ;)
I'm knitting a set of wool mag holders. Kydex is too cold.
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Thanks bullit! Makes my weekend much more comfortable! ;D
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Embassy Suites in Omaha by Cabelas has been posted since they opened. I was there about a month ago and it was still posted. Have no idea about the Lincoln or downtown Omaha locations.
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Roper,
Where in the Embassy Suites at La Vista is it posted? I have been in there multiple times, and as recently as 3 weeks ago. Went in and out of 3 different entrances, as well as the Marriot next door. I stay pretty atuned to espying such "conspicuous" items. Curious minds want to know......
And back to Mark B's post about the garage of the Cornhusker. That kind of makes since as the sign is for those entering from the hotel to the garage. Always thought it odd the hotel would post signs that way. However, there is still the freestanding one at the entrance of the main lobby. Technically conspicuous for the other entrances????
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3/28/2011
Today I went into the Embassy Suites in LaVista, looking at the doors and surroundings. I went through the lobby area to the Convention Center and out those main doors, looked around and re-entered. I went to the Marriott Courtyard and left out of the main doors.
Much to my surprise, all no-weapon signage had been removed...I repeat...removed ;D
I made this journey on purpose to look and was pleasantly surprised.
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Florence Food Mart on Ft. Calhoun Rd. (just north of the Mormon bridge) has a big,friendly "CCW Welcome!" sign in the middle of the front door.
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3/28/2011
Today I went into the Embassy Suites in LaVista, looking at the doors and surroundings. I went through the lobby area to the Convention Center and out those main doors, looked around and re-entered. I went to the Marriott Courtyard and left out of the main doors.
Much to my surprise, all no-weapon signage had been removed...I repeat...removed ;D
Good to hear that their signs are down, thanks for the update!
I made this journey on purpose to look and was pleasantly surprised.
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Stopped at the main FedEx facility near 72nd and Q to ship a shotgun yesterday. Ironically, there was a sign off to the right of the door indicating no weapons were allowed.
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Sorry i took so long guys, I have NOT recieved a verified answer from Kwik Shop. As of now I will tell you that the signs ARE down in Lincoln. However, if you are involved in an incident, I cannot guarantee you are legally cleared.
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Don't know if it has been listed but its not on the main list that I saw. No Frills at 202 and Pacific in Omaha (Elkhorn) is posted. I took my business elsewhere.
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Don't know if it has been listed but its not on the main list that I saw. No Frills at 202 and Pacific in Omaha (Elkhorn) is posted. I took my business elsewhere.
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Yep, We did a fundraiser for Joplin in front of that store. I felt so uncomfortable standing in the Free Crime Zone!
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Checked the main page and the thread and did not see it.
Girls and Boys Town - Posted, No Firearms
At the main entrance, 12 or so feet up on a light pole, right behind the statue of the boy carrying his brother. Its the only sign I have been able to find, and its not all that big. 4"x8", maybe. None of the buildings are posted, so I have to assume that the one sign covers the whole place.
Ron
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Boys and Girls Town is considered a school thus no firearms.
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Just stopped at Bene's Pizza near 120th and Maple in Omaha. It's a defense-free zone ... and the pizza isn't all that good either.
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Add Rick's Boatyard to the list. Stopped there with the in-laws today for lunch after walking across the pedestrian bridge to Iowa. See if you can spot the sign in the photo below. Hint, the sign doesn't have any bright colors, like red, on it.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/Mudinyeri/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0199.jpg)
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For those of you who are into making beer or wine, Kirk's Do it Yourself Brew in Lincoln has an NRA sticker right next to the door. I noticed it when I stopped in today to pick up some supplies, so I let him know about the NFOA. Kirk is a good guy, so hopefully we'll see him on here.
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Budget Storage just off 13th and Hwy 2 is no-carry. The sticker (no picture, just wording) is placed such that you have to be inside the office and facing outward to read it. ::) We've vacated our unit there.
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Well I'm at it again! Poking the bear. ;D
I took my daughter for ice cream at Ivanna Cone in the Creamery Building (701 P St) and noticed a rudimentary "No weapons" sign near the entrance of the building (not Ivanna Cone's interior door). Soooo...I decided to send off a letter and see what the response is. Probably no change to the policy, but who knows.
Greetings,
I visited a tenant in the Creamery Building (701 P St, Lincoln, NE 68508) and noticed the "No Firearms" sign posted in the window. I was hoping you could answer a few questions for me. I am sure that your sign works well to keep law abiding citizens with Concealed Handgun Permits (CHP) from entering your property with a firearm, but what has your company done to insure that criminals with ill intent do not bring weapons into the building? Also, if a criminal did enter this "gun free zone" and the sign did not discourage them from carrying a concealed handgun, what arrangements has Concord Management taken to protect myself, my family, and all the other unarmed patrons of the businesses within?
I only ask these questions because most of the mass shootings that have taken place in the US have been in these so called "gun free zones". It appears that these signs, though they have the best of intent, did nothing to stop these crimes. In fact, these individuals intentionally went to these locations to inflict their carnage because they knew no one would be able to defend themselves. Maybe a sign that more closely meets your intent of stopping criminals would include a statement of "No concealed weapons EXCEPT for CHP holders".
It is my opinion that Concorde Mangement, by posting a sign in its current format, has completely accepted responsibility for myself and my families protection against such heinous crimes. If your company is not willing to bear the weight of such liability (whether legally, morally or financially), then I would ask you to consider letting citizens, who have met the legal requirements to carry a concealed firearm, be responsible for their own safety.
The fact is that Concealed Handgun Permits have be enacted across the country in all but three states. There is zero proof that it has caused any wild west scenes in the streets as predicted before the legislation was enacted. However, it has been demonstrated that "Gun Free Zones" are misread by the criminal to mean "Free Crime Zone".
Sincerely,
Fly
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Well you are factually incorrect... CCW is legal in all but 1 state
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Well you are factually incorrect... CCW is legal in all but 1 state
Oops...I just went to handgunlaw.us, made a quick glance at their national map and counted the red states. Oh well...hopefully it will still get the point across.
Fly
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I guess that Wisconsin's new law is not in effect yet, so 2 states and DC
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Well I'm at it again! Poking the bear. ;D
I took my daughter for ice cream at Ivanna Cone in the Creamery Building (701 P St) and noticed a rudimentary "No weapons" sign near the entrance of the building (not Ivanna Cone's interior door). Soooo...I decided to send off a letter and see what the response is. Probably no change to the policy, but who knows.
Fly
Looks like a great letter to me. Might I save a copy to send to anti-carry businesses I run into?
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Dan...Since when is DC not a state? :D
Farmer Rick...sure. I claim no copyright.
Fly
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Looks like a great letter to me. Might I save a copy to send to anti-carry businesses I run into?
That is indeed an excellent letter---polite, precise, hits all the business buttons about liability, and tells the exact truth about the effectiveness of victim zones, plus talks about how CCW folks are indeed perfectly normal, safe people.
Great work!
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That is indeed an excellent letter---polite, precise, hits all the business buttons about liability, and tells the exact truth about the effectiveness of victim zones, plus talks about how CCW folks are indeed perfectly normal, safe people.
Great work!
I would have to disagree with the "perfectly normal" statement. I would argue that we are anything but, and that's a good thing!! ;D
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I think it is a great letter...be sure to let us know the results! ;D
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Great letter, but we have 57 states according to "The One"
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Not sure if this belongs here, general, or a new thread. It's amusing none the less.
My Dad sent me this. He was forwarded it from an old acquaintance. I have no idea where this store is sadly.
Seems quite relevant to us here in NE.
Wonder if any store would be willing to post a copy :D
(http://www.unfy.org/newsign.jpg)
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I saw once that this was supposedly a bank in Texas.
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Here is the link to the story!
http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/notice-lawful-concealed-carry-permitted-on-these-premises_10012010 (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/notice-lawful-concealed-carry-permitted-on-these-premises_10012010)
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my barber of more than 30 years has a sign that encourages ccw in his shop. his name is Bob Mullins. Ladies & Gentlemen West , 12100 West Center Rd. in Omaha. (in Bel Air Plaza, under the dentist, behind the Vicks Corn Popper)
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We were just at Beardmore Chevrolet looking at cars---and they have every single building posted. No carry allowed. When we asked one of the salesmen about it, he said that it meant you can't carry in their parking lot either.
I let him know that was only true if every entrance to the parking lot was posted, not merely the entrances to the building. I did say that of course, the business owner had every right to ask people to leave his parking lot---but technically, for it to be automatic, every entrance had to be posted.
We also asked him to inform his manager that not only would we never buy any cars there, we'd be passing the word along to everyone else we knew.
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No, the business owner does not have the right to ban CCW in the parking lot. It is specifically noted in the law that parking lots open to the public can not be posted no CCW
018.06 Except as prohibited by federal law, a permit holder may carry a concealed handgun in a vehicle or on his or her person while riding in or on a vehicle into or onto any parking area which is open to the public and used by any of the places or premises listed in Section 018.01 above if the handgun is not removed from the vehicle and the handgun is properly secured in the vehicle before the permit holder exits the vehicle. To be properly secured in the vehicle, the handgun must be locked inside the glove box, trunk or other compartment of the vehicle, in a storage box attached to the vehicle, or in a securely attached hardened compartment if the vehicle is a motorcycle.
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No, the business owner does not have the right to ban CCW in the parking lot. It is specifically noted in the law that parking lots open to the public can not be posted no CCW
...as long as the gun stays in the car. The guy at Beardmore was talking about walking around their car lot with a CCW, which is a different situation. If they had posted their lot, indeed, the gun could be worn in your car, and stored in your car---but you could not have gotten out of your car while carrying.
Currently, their lot is not posted, so it is a non-issue, other than the fact that the guy didn't know the law. (Not a surprise.)
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I was actually amazed at Beardmore's policy, and quite offended. I am planning to send them a letter regarding their policy (borrowing the one posted here by Fly). The sales man had NO IDEA how to respond to us when we told him we were not able to go inside his building to check out cars / prices. When he came out and we told him we were unwilling to do business with them, he was clueless! He seems to have joined the il-logic of those thinking that "less guns" = "less crime". When we tried to explain to him that CCW holders are the MOST law abiding citizens around, he agreed with us, but looked somewhat like a bobble-head doll doing it.
I have seen several businesses discriminate against us, but never one like this. I was shocked at how emotionally and personally I took their idiocy. I will be taking my business elsewhere!
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Is there a "central" list that has all of this information in it and organized at all?
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Is there a "central" list that has all of this information in it and organized at all?
I believe that it is located on the main home page.
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Is there a "central" list that has all of this information in it and organized at all?
Try this:
http://nefirearm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Itemid=9 (http://nefirearm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Itemid=9)
It's a link on the home page.....
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Very cool! Thanks all.
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Kwik Shop needs to be removed from the Bellevue list.
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If you are ever looking for a good cigar in Omaha, Ted's Tobacco on 144th and Center has a "firearms welcome" sign. I even saw a patron open carrying.
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The mall in Scottsbluff is a no-gun zone, although its posting is pretty hit & miss.
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A mall may have a no weapons policy, but in my opinion, unless the owners post conspicuous notice, at all entrances, stating that legally concealed handguns are not permitted, then it has not met the legal requirements that keep me from carrying there.
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A mall may have a no weapons policy, but in my opinion, unless the owners post conspicuous notice, at all entrances, stating that legally concealed handguns are not permitted, then it has not met the legal requirements that keep me from carrying there.
I'm not sure what the penalty would be, I guess. I just got my CCW and I would be very disappointed to get it revoked already. :( That would be a real bummer.
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The penalty is for knowingly violating a sign on the entrance. If the signage does not meet the legal requirements, I don't think it can be violated.
That's just my take.
I don't recommend you do anything similar without consulting your attorney
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I was at Marshal's on 132nd and Center today. A no carry sign is posted at the East entrance to the shopping center parking lot... I wasn't carrying at the time, so I forgot to look if one was actually posted at the entrance door. :-\
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Just dropped off a truckload of stuff at the Goodwill on 156th & Maple in Omaha - faded no guns signs on the doors. All that really shows up is the gun. The red circle with the line through it was faded to nearly invisible.
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Hello,
I was in the mall again. I've been through all the entrances, sears younker Pennies. Lots and lots of no smoking signs. Nowhere is there a no guns sign.
I've heard there is a rules sign somewhere but I looked all over and did not find it. I tried, there is not a rules sign in the main entrance at all. Even if there was, that is not legal definition of conspicous by any measure.
I'm just curious why the NFAO has the mall listed as gun unfriendly?
Can we remove it off the list or can someone explain why it is on the list?
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I have noticed the same thing. Usually I use the Younkers, Dillards or Sears entrances and have not noticed anything there.
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There is a Code of Conduct board near the entrance, and it states "No Weapons".
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Which mall are you talking about?
I carried at the Westroads and Oakview malls in Omaha this weekend as I always have.
No signs on any of the doors near where I entered or exited.
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Which mall are you talking about?
I carried at the Westroads and Oakview malls in Omaha this weekend as I always have.
No signs on any of the doors near where I entered or exited.
Hmmm ... I though Chokeview had a "no weapons" policy. At least I used that excuse not to go shopping with my wife this weekend. :D
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Hmmm ... I though Chokeview had a "no weapons" policy. At least I used that excuse not to go shopping with my wife this weekend. :D
OOOH! Good-un , Mud!
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Question in my mind is if a "code of conduct" meets the legal requirement for "conspicuous notice"
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not answer but a ? how do you start a new post ?????????
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not answer but a ? how do you start a new post ?????????
Click "Home" near top of page...
(http://nebraskafirearms.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=857.0;attach=1208;image)
Then go to the Board where you would like to post such as "General Firearms Discussions"
Then select "New Topic"
(http://nebraskafirearms.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=857.0;attach=1209;image)
Fly
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Oakview and Westroads have them. I know the one at Oakview is at the food court entrance, but well off to the side. I believe the same is true for Westroads.
I personally don't think that a "code of conduct" sign carries much weight. Rarely do I break the law, but if I HAVE to go to the mall I carry, regardless of signage. Like the saying goes, I'd rather be judged by 12 strangers than carried by 6 family / friends.
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Guys, if you choose to carry in a prohibited area that's your business, but I do not advise stating so on a public forum.
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Guys, if you choose to carry in a prohibited area that's your business, but I do not advise stating so on a public forum.
I agree. IF I were to carry in a No CC or questionable area, it would be my own business. The only thing I will admit to on a public forum is losing all my firearms when they sank to the bottom of the Missouri river after the canoe I was carrying them in capsized while I was trying to transport my collection from Nebraska to Iowa. Live and learn.
Fly
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That happened to you too??????????????
:o
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You guys need to stop buying boats from Mud. :laugh:
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I blame my loss on the flood of 2011. ;D
The NFOA does not condone the violation of any law. But there is a valid question of wither the rules signs posted at the malls (all of them not just Oakview) constitutes "Conspicuous Notice." This is tpart of the reason we have requested the Legislature to write into the Law what that should be. That bill (LB 88) is still tied up in committee and without some type of a push will die at the end of this session.
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I blame my loss on the flood of 2011. ;D
The NFOA does not condone the violation of any law. But there is a valid question of wither the rules signs posted at the malls (all of them not just Oakview) constitutes "Conspicuous Notice." This is tpart of the reason we have requested the Legislature to write into the Law what that should be. That bill (LB 88) is still tied up in committee and without some type of a push will die at the end of this session.
Just a little over 2 weeks until the new Legislative session begins. Everyone had better get ready to start writing some letters and emails to ALL of our fine Senators regarding NFOA-endorsed bills.
Let's flood them in Lincoln!!
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Guys, if you choose to carry in a prohibited area that's your business, but I do not advise stating so on a public forum.
I too would like to offer that we all be careful not to post anything that might regrettably come back to haunt us in the future.
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This is why we must push for official signage, with clear rules on placement and size, just like Texas' 30.06 code.
I'm not too worried about the malls - haven't been in one since before I got my CHP nearly 5 years ago.
Point taken though, you never know what is going to came back to but you in the rear.
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We will need to put alot of weight behind LB 88 in addition to Castle Doctrine. Perhaps Senator Fulton would make LB 88 his priority bill this next session? From what i got from the hearing Ashford did seem "understanding" in regards why Christensen brought LB 88.
Also, why is the Applebees in Bellevue on the "no ccw" list? I have always carried there and never seen a sign at the doors. The Burger Kings in Bellevue i'm not 100% sure on but they did remove their signs from all three Bellevue locations at one point or another. I ate there several times this summer at two of the locations and there were no signs. I haven't been at BK for several weeks though and i did notice some new sticker that was placed back in the spot where the old signs were while driving by. So i'm not sure if they have reposted or not. I will have to check again sometime.
The Burger King near Oakview Mall in Omaha next to Bag N' Save however is posted and has one sign at the front entrance but not at the "back" entrance which I discovered after having already entered the restaurant through the back entrance whilst ordering my meal. A friend and I went there for breakfast after my work shift was over and I was still dressed in my work (security) uniform. I decided to open carry because I wanted to show my friend that I wouldn't get any attention because I look like an "only one". After having noticed the sign I became afraid but came to the conclusion that I looked like I was an "only one" and people probably wouldn't care so we sat down and ate our food. As expected, nobody said a word. I was also open carrying so technically speaking i was not violating the CHP Act....am i right?..............plus I entered the restaurant seeing no sign when i walked in so I thought I was clear.
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Just a little over 2 weeks until the new Legislative session begins. Everyone had better get ready to start writing some letters and emails to ALL of our fine Senators regarding NFOA-endorsed bills.
Let's flood them in Lincoln!!
What is the organization working on in terms of legislative proposals? Why isn't there a discussion area for 2012 legislation?
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What is the organization working on in terms of legislative proposals? Why isn't there a discussion area for 2012 legislation?
We have several new items we have been discussing with Senators and among the Board. Alot of the discussions have been about what it will take to get some of these things passed. Everything that was proposed last year and not passed or indefianatly postponed is still on the table for this year as well as a couple of new items. We will be posting the 2012 legislation as it gets proposed, part of why we do not post htings early is we do not want those who would oppose our bills to have the extra time to prepare, and many of those items will not make it to a bill this year.
As far as what we work on we get those ideas from the comments you folks make here as well as the conversations we have with members at gunshows members meetings ect. We also discuss some of these things with other organizations Natioanlly so we can learn from their actions and see what kind of opposition they face and plan to overcome it.
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We have several new items we have been discussing with Senators and among the Board. Alot of the discussions have been about what it will take to get some of these things passed. Everything that was proposed last year and not passed or indefianatly postponed is still on the table for this year as well as a couple of new items. We will be posting the 2012 legislation as it gets proposed, part of why we do not post htings early is we do not want those who would oppose our bills to have the extra time to prepare, and many of those items will not make it to a bill this year.
Oh, I was under the impression that the "2011 Legislation" topic was restricted to members only and not viewable by others...
As far as what we work on we get those ideas from the comments you folks make here as well as the conversations we have with members at gunshows members meetings ect. We also discuss some of these things with other organizations Natioanlly so we can learn from their actions and see what kind of opposition they face and plan to overcome it.
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Oh, I was under the impression that the "2011 Legislation" topic was restricted to members only and not viewable by others...
It is but with the anonymity of the internet (and we purposely allow as much as possible) there is no real way of telling "who" anyone really is our what their true positions are. So we choose to play some things close to the vest until things are in a position that they are moving before we have open discussion.
If you follow the Board Meeting Scheduals and Minutes you have a pretty good idea what we have been discussing. Remember due to multiple things not everything we bring up or members bring up is even able to become a proposed bill at the initial time, but we keep notes on things and bring them back when the time is right.
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The members of the NFOA submit the information that the list contains, and it will stay there until there is more than just a rumor that it has changed.
If you think that a place is unfairly on the list, then give me some real proof that it should not be. But let's err on the side of caution.
If you all recall, the Valentino's at 70th and Van Dorn in Lincoln has been reported as not having a sign on multiple occasions, once even by me, in error. These signs get moved, covered over, hidden by other ads, etc. They may be out of view at times, but that does not really change the idea that the business in question is a CCW unfriendly place.
And I know that most of these signs do not meet the legal threshold for banning CCW, yet they remain on the list as the business has been deemed unfriendly to CCW by many reports from NFOA members
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Was at Wendy's on north 27th in Lincoln. Is connected to a convenience store. The no weapons sign was showing as you walked out, but not as you walk in to the store.
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It may already be listed here (I didn't go through the whole nine pages), but the AAA office at 29th and O in Lincoln is posted. I believe the sign prohibits all guns, not just CHP, and it is not especially prominent (see through decal mixed in with others on the door). I missed it when I first went in for travel info, but caught it when I went back to take a class to be certified as a drivers education instructor.
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Took kitty to the vet the other day. South Omaha Animal Hospital (near 36th and Q). They had the no-gun sign up... which to me seemed a bit redundant (but I was fine with, was already disarmed).
Looking at the unfriendly list, I see the Bellevue Animal Hospital.
I'm sorry -- but it's a vet / animal HOSPITAL. Hospitals are already covered by law to not concealed carry in. Do these places really need to be placed on the 'unfriendly' zone ?
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Took kitty to the vet the other day. South Omaha Animal Hospital (near 36th and Q). They had the no-gun sign up... which to me seemed a bit redundant (but I was fine with, was already disarmed).
Looking at the unfriendly list, I see the Bellevue Animal Hospital.
I'm sorry -- but it's a vet / animal HOSPITAL. Hospitals are already covered by law to not concealed carry in. Do these places really need to be placed on the 'unfriendly' zone ?
Well, even the "animal hospitals" here in gun unfriendly "we're the only ones" Columbus aren't posted. I believe it's only human hospitals that are automatically off limits to fundamental human rights.
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Actually, I think humans can carry there, it's just the dogs and cats that are prohibited.
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So if I call my auto repair place the Auto Hospital, it becomes a banned place? ::)
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It allows them to charge a lot for euthanizing your pet than a 5 cent .22 LR......
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Nebraska Revised Statute 71-419. Hospital, defined.
(1) Hospital means a facility where diagnosis, treatment, medical care, obstetrical care, nursing care, or related services are provided on an outpatient basis or on an inpatient basis for a period of more than twenty-four consecutive hours to persons who have an illness, injury, or deformity or to aged or infirm persons requiring or receiving convalescent care.
(2) Hospital includes a facility or part of a facility which provides space for a general acute hospital, a rehabilitation hospital, a long-term care hospital, a critical access hospital, or a psychiatric or mental hospital.
(3) Hospital does not include a health care practitioner facility in which persons do not receive care or treatment for a period of more than twenty-four consecutive hours.
Though paragraphs 2 & 3 don't use the term "person(s)", it is apparent (to me) from paragraph 3 that they are referring to locations that treat people, not animals.
Fly
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Was there today, no code of conduct signs in the entrances at Oakview. Never seen so many no smoking signs in my life though! Not trying to start controversy just stating that the signs are not there and I am not seeing them anywhere, or the rules sign which I think I saw at one time but it is gone tonight.
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Fly.....you are so heartless. You realize how offensive your language is to PETA??? Pets are "people" and have rights, too. Now go drink your Kool Aid. :)
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Fly.....you are so heartless. You realize how offensive your language is to PETA??? Pets are "people" and have rights, too. Now go drink your Kool Aid. :)
Dear PETA...I'm sorry. ;D
Fly
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Dear PETA...I'm sorry. ;D
Fly
PETA kills 1000 animals a day.
*cough*
Anyway ... re: actual statute wording relating to persons.
I stand corrected.
I would venture South Omaha Animal Hospital (35th & Q street Omaha) would need to be added to the list. This is the one exception I'd make to shopping at a no-gun shop... cause... well.. they've always rocked and treat my animals really well etc.
Friend and I did detour from an IHOP last night due to no-gun signs.
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Let it be known!
I am a member of PETA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
People
Eating
Tasty
Animals
There...I have said it! :P
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just noticed the Git 'n' split @ 48th & Hwy 2 has a "no weapons allowed" sign.
time to find another gas station, again.
I am going to send them a letter as well.
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I dropped off a copy of the signage requirement with some suggestions at the Lincoln Children's Zoo today. Also mentioned that they are only keeping law-abiding citizens out and not criminals. Since we're members I left my name and contact info if they have any questions. Will be interesting to see if they respond. My issue is that the sign at the front entrance is not clearly visible when you are approaching or entering through one of the other booths not connected to the gift shop. Well, that and the fact that they are posted at all, but I digress...
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Anyone know if Zio's is a protection-free zone? I did a search and nothing came up.
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Zio's at 132nd & Center and the Dodge street location are not posted (or weren't around Christmas and 2 weeks ago, respectively).
/rl
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Schaefer's TV and Appliance in Lincoln is now CHP friendly!
I told them Thanks today and that I would not have spent $1800 in their store if that sign had not been removed.
Now I need to go set up my fathers day present :P
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Schaefer's TV and Appliance in Lincoln is now CHP friendly!
I told them Thanks today and that I would not have spent $1800 in their store if that sign had not been removed.
Now I need to go set up my fathers day present :P
That's good news! Did they say why they decided to change?
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That's good news! Did they say why they decided to change?
They said that they have had many complaints about it, but did not elaborate. I am not sure how long ago this happened as I have been avoiding doing any business there
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I am reading this forum and is there a list that a guy can print out and keep in his truck and hand out to his buddys to keep from going to these business?
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I am reading this forum and is there a list that a guy can print out and keep in his truck and hand out to his buddys to keep from going to these business?
There is a list on the main site called unfriendly business list. I believe this link will get you there: http://nebraskafirearms.org/unfriendly-business-list/ (http://nebraskafirearms.org/unfriendly-business-list/)
I'm not sure how up to date it is kept, but it's a good place to start.
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thanks have a good 4th
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I believe it is listed (too lazy to check thru all the topic) but Nebraska Furniture Mart is VERY posted. WE stopped there a while back, went into "Mrs. B's" to check on matresses prices. My 12yo daughter remarked on the way out the door " Dad did you see those signs on the door?" "Yes sweetheart I did, That's why we will not be buying matresses here." " I figured so" she replies. Awww They learn so quickly. ;)
Has anyone contacted the powers that be at NFM, if so, what kind of response was received?
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You honestly think Warren Buffet believes in the 2A ???
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Nash Finch has bought Bag 'N Save and No Frills Grocery stores. Bag 'N save isn't posted but No Frills is. I went to the "contact us" asking about removing the posted signage from No Frills and sharing they may gain more customers if they remove the signs. http://www.nashfinch.com/contact.cfm (http://www.nashfinch.com/contact.cfm) is the website in case you want to send them an encouragement to remove signage email. ;D
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I think buffet is the type that guns for me is ok. Guns for you are bad. He took a tour of my work several years ago and had armed guards with him.
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Carpetland in Lincoln just east of 27th, south of Superior has a small sign on their door saying "No Concealed Weapons". Was there yesterday.
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Nash Finch has bought Bag 'N Save and No Frills Grocery stores. Bag 'N save isn't posted but No Frills is. I went to the "contact us" asking about removing the posted signage from No Frills and sharing they may gain more customers if they remove the signs. http://www.nashfinch.com/contact.cfm (http://www.nashfinch.com/contact.cfm) is the website in case you want to send them an encouragement to remove signage email. ;D
The No Guns sign is gone from the door of our local (Plattsmouth) No Frills..... I thought it had something to do with the fact that Hy-Vee is opening a store here soon...... competition is going to get fierce!
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Here is one for your consideration...
66bigblock
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Wow. If you miss that sign. You need to get your weapon confiscated.
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How might I ask are they going to "confiscate" your weapon? Would not be a pretty sight.....
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Rivers Metal Products in Lincoln is posted, but it's on a tinted window and hard to see.
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I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but the YMCA Spirit Park behind State Farm at 84th & O is posted. It is not what I would consider "conspicuous" when you walk in. It is more visible when you are leaving.
On a related note, would a Google map showing where all the Anti-CCW businesses are located be helpful?
Fly
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On a related note, would a Google map showing where all the Anti-CCW businesses are located be helpful?
Fly
That would be fantastic! Are you volunteering to create one? :D
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I don't think this has been mentioned yet, but the YMCA Spirit Park behind State Farm at 84th & O is posted. It is not what I would consider "conspicuous" when you walk in. It is more visible when you are leaving.
On a related note, would a Google map showing where all the Anti-CCW businesses are located be helpful?
Fly
Yeah, that would be neat. PM me if you need help. I'd be willing to help with the data entry.
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Since Google is anti gun. They might help make a national map.
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I'm pretty damned sure Speedway Motors doesn't have the authority to confiscate a weapon - they can ask you to leave - that's about all they can do other than call the cops.
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Yeah, that would be neat. PM me if you need help. I'd be willing to help with the data entry.
That would be fantastic! Are you volunteering to create one? :D
Yeah...I knew I was opening myself up to some extra work, but it might be a worthwhile project. I've got a few personal items to clean up in the next month, and then I should be able to devote some time to this.
Fly
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Michael's at Southepoint has a sign up. I wasn't really that surprised seeing that coming from a crafts store. I was able to get what I was looking for next door at hobbytown though. I let them know via e-mail too.
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Michael's at Southepoint has a sign up. I wasn't really that surprised seeing that coming from a crafts store. I was able to get what I was looking for next door at hobbytown though. I let them know via e-mail too.
I believe everything between Scheels and the golf shop are posted in that strip. My wife goes shoe shopping so my son and I go to Hobbytown while we wait :)
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I was at Costco in Omaha today and noticed their sign was no longer being displayed. The sign was text posted between the 2nd set of doors. Did not notice new signs elsewhere.
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I was at Costco in Omaha today and noticed their sign was no longer being displayed. The sign was text posted between the 2nd set of doors. Did not notice new signs elsewhere.
If I recall right all Costco stores don't allow CCW, pretty sure it's a corporate policy. This is why I'm sticking with Sam's Club.
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Does anyone know if olive garden in grand island is posted? It just opened last month.
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Stopped at Oak View in Omaha the other day. Did not see proper signage on the south entrance door. I knew Oak View was on the no fly list from this forum. Standing there waiting for someone in the restroom I noticed a sign on adjacent wall labeled " Proper Conduct" or something of the like. Very bottom entry was " No firearms or weapons" . It is so out of the way on a side wall you have to purposely make yourself look for it. How does this qualify as proper signage?
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Since No Frills and Bag N Save are now owned by the same company, I inquired about the "Anti" status below:
Request Submitted
Request to No Frills Supermarkets
From: Wilson
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Message:
Since the company is owned by the same folks who own Bag N Save, will No Frills now allow concealed carry of legal firearms in your stores? Currently, you are listed on the Ne Firearms Association as unfriendly. I frequent Bag N Save but would like to return to No Frills.
Will the parent company have the same rules for both companies?
I would appreciate a response to this.
Reply to the request:
Mr. Metz...
No Frills made the decision to remove their "no firearms" signs. Our Loss Prevention Supervisor is in the process of removing the signs. The signs are down at some locations and the remaining will be removed soon.
Tammy Zbylut
No Frills Supermarkets
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Sweet! Now I don't have to make excuses with the other Scout parents on why I can't bring myself to step inside the store. They have been great to our pack with donations and allowing us to pester their customers for supplies and cash for Joplin tornado victims, ringing the bell for the Salvation Army, and that dreaded popcorn. But I hated the idea of stepping inside to do any business, knowing their stance on my and mine's right to defense.
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We need to have Garmin build us grip panels like this Proximity Warning:
(http://www.beranlaw.com/images/CZ_GPS Compressed.jpg)
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Please add the Pizza Hut located at 11336 S. 96th St. Papillion, NE 68046 (Hwy 370 and 96th St) to the list of unfriendly businesses. The main door to the store was posted on 8/28/2012 when I was there.
The signs are not really visable from outside of the business as they are the clear plastic signs about 3 inches tall and 2 wide and posted on the inside of the tinted glass doors.
Ron
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Went to the Sinclair gas station in Arapahoe yesterday, you have to go in to pay for gas. After getting gas, I went to go in to the station to pay for it when I saw the sign down low by the door. I didn't know if I should just leave the money outside or call the cashier out to collect it.
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Add Aksarben Cinema to the list of unfriendly businesses. Sometime in the last week or so they posted "no guns" signs on each door. The owner states that since they serve liquor they need to post, and is not open to discussing the issue even after being pointed out that he is wrong about the law. This was my favorite theater but now I won't be patronizing their business until the sign is removed.
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I have been in communication with No Frills about the removal of their signs. I believe the Ashland store might have been the last to remove their signs. I was in the store on Wednesday night and the signs were still up. On Thursday, I went to the "contact us" page to ask when the signs would be removed. Within a couple of hours, I got an email followed up with a phone call that the Ashland store signs were down. http://www.nofrillssupermarkets.com/locations/corporate/nf00/ (http://www.nofrillssupermarkets.com/locations/corporate/nf00/)
I suggest we declare No Frills as friendly and if we run across a posted store, contact them and it will be removed quickly! ;D
We spent a bunch of dollars in a previously posted No Frills today...nice store!
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The No Frills in Bellevue on Harlan Drive is still posted of this date, 15 Oct 12.
(http://rowell.smugmug.com/photos/i-4FGjhpn/0/M/i-4FGjhpn-M.jpg)
And this is the store that was robbed at gun point a few months back.
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The No Frills in Papillion doesn't have the sign anymore (at least I couldn't find it).
That was as of Sunday.
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Add Aksarben Cinema to the list of unfriendly businesses. Sometime in the last week or so they posted "no guns" signs on each door. The owner states that since they serve liquor they need to post, and is not open to discussing the issue even after being pointed out that he is wrong about the law. This was my favorite theater but now I won't be patronizing their business until the sign is removed.
Guess I'll have to quit going to movies. AMC is still posted last I was there.
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Per No Frills:
I guess not all stores have gotten the message but I am "on it" because the corporate decision was to un-post all the stores. Many are gone now!
If you see a sign, let me know and I will continue to be the squeaky wheel.
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Guess I'll have to quit going to movies. AMC is still posted last I was there.
Go to the theater at Village Point. I carry there and haven't seen any signs at the door I walk in...
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Go to the theater at Village Point. I carry there and haven't seen any signs at the door I walk in...
I got to talking to a sheriff deputy for a little while a couple weeks ago.. We got on the subject of conceal carry and I mentioned that its ridiculous that we can only carry in one movie theater in this area.. Apparently she worked an off duty gig there after the colorado shooting. She was told by management that conceal carry is not allowed there. I see no signs at the doors.. So until there are signs, I will continue to carry. Just wanted to post this up as a FYI.
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I don't know if this restaurant has been listed yet, but Netties in S. Omaha is pro 2A. Here is the sign in their window. Good food to boot!
(http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac140/lunchboxjonez/IMG_0182.jpg)
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FYI: Netties is a big NFOA supporter.
As a matter of fact, Last weekend's NFOA PAF candidate meet and greet was hosted by Netties and , yes, the (free) food provided was awesome.
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I got to talking to a sheriff deputy for a little while a couple weeks ago.. We got on the subject of conceal carry and I mentioned that its ridiculous that we can only carry in one movie theater in this area.. Apparently she worked an off duty gig there after the colorado shooting. She was told by management that conceal carry is not allowed there. I see no signs at the doors.. So until there are signs, I will continue to carry. Just wanted to post this up as a FYI.
Twin Creek in Bellevue hasn't been posted.
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Twin Creek in Bellevue hasn't been posted.
Yeah I know, Tis why I still carry there. Was just chiming in that the deputy I was shooting the **** with said that SHE was told by management when she first started that conceal carry is not allowed in that theater. Well they didn't tell me, and they havent posted so until so, it is still a carry zone.
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Anti-CCW location.
Oct 30th 2012
Aldi's in Bellevue. North side of Cornhusker opposite of menards / mcdonalds.
They have a tiny placard stating no concealed weapons, I've friendly bugged the manager that the sign isn't adequate, will be in touch with their corporate masters about getting their sign updated (or removed possibly).
Being a corporate thing, quite possibly all Aldi's disallow carry ?
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Does not look "conspicuous" to me......
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Go to the theater at Village Point. I carry there and haven't seen any signs at the door I walk in...
Nor did I.
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Does not look "conspicuous" to me......
Yeah, included the NESP's regs printout, highlighted appropriate sections, included a printout of the suggested sign as well as a couple examples, a note explaining why the sign is important, and a note requesting they allow concealed carry as well. I'm sure there are more eloquent people here that could address the concealed carry issue than myself... but at the very least I can hopefully get their sign updated heh.
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RE: "I've friendly bugged the manager that the sign isn't adequate, will be in touch with their corporate masters about getting their sign updated...but at the very least I can hopefully get their sign updated heh."
unfy: Please stop and think before acting any further on this... From your photo of the sign (at Aldi's in Bellevue), it obviously does not meet the standard required for an enforceable gun-free/victim zone (CHP holders are restricted when the business is properly & conspicuously posted)... It is one thing to advocate for removal of such a sign, but why in the world would you actively assist them them fixing their sign, giving it the power of law, and making this business a victim zone legally off-limits to permit holders???
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unfy: Please stop and think before acting any further on this... From your photo of the sign (at Aldi's in Bellevue), it obviously does not meet the standard required for an enforceable gun-free/victim zone (CHP holders are restricted when the business is properly & conspicuously posted)... It is one thing to advocate for removal of such a sign, but why in the world would you actively assist them them fixing their sign, giving it the power of law, and making this business a victim zone legally off-limits to permit holders???
Uhhhhh, I've got a few responses to this.
1) Conspicuous can be up for interpretation. The sign was at the inner door, it was fairly isolated and not surrounded by a bunch of crap, etc. It wasn't a gaudy graphic, but it wasn't really "hidden" either.
2) The notice *IS* posted, therefore walking in concealed, assuming it passes 'conspicuous' - would be breaking the law. Do you wanna have to deal with the headache of arguing the sign to a peace officer or judge ? Losing an afternoon of your time or more and possible fines and other such things ?
3) Aldi's corporate office obviously doesn't want concealed carry in their stores. Do you actively snub your nose in the face of businesses or homes you frequent ?
4) Our goal shouldn't be to attempt to "sneak into a place" just because we think we're right.
And the most important thing of all:
5) It's damn well polite to try to be respectful and not adversarial towards businesses. They aren't "the enemy".
I made a short case for allowing concealed carry, but barring that - I'm helping them meet their goals and possibly helping US not be put in a situation of having to explain ourselves or argue semantics about a sign.
If someone has a generic "please get rid of the sign" letter / message that kicks ass, I'll gladly keep a few copies of it in my truck.
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If someone has a generic "please get rid of the sign" letter / message that kicks ass, I'll gladly keep a few copies of it in my truck.
2-sided business card you may like. It is designed to be used with the Avery business card stock available at WalMart and other places.
http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/1362028/nogunsnomoneynfoa-pdf-september-6-2009-9-17-pm-126k (http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/1362028/nogunsnomoneynfoa-pdf-september-6-2009-9-17-pm-126k)
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2-sided business card you may like. It is designed to be used with the Avery business card stock available at WalMart and other places.
http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/1362028/nogunsnomoneynfoa-pdf-september-6-2009-9-17-pm-126k (http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/1362028/nogunsnomoneynfoa-pdf-september-6-2009-9-17-pm-126k)
I'll have to give these a print, ty ty <3
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Guess I'll have to quit going to movies. AMC is still posted last I was there.
Marcus Cinemas are pro-Second Amendment and they have my business.
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Marcus Cinemas are pro-Second Amendment and they have my business.
Yes they are, and I note that the very same Marcus group has recently purchased the Cornhusker Hotel in Lincoln, so I expect that at least one hotel in Lincoln will be removing the "no guns" signs (fingers crossed)
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Dan W....interestingly the Marriott group (previous owner of the Cornhusker) is pro CCW. Never could understand the contradiction and always wondered if a local policy i.e. the big boys at HQ unaware.
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While we're on the subject of hotels ... does anyone know if the Hilton in downtown Omaha is criminal-friendly or not? I have a meeting there this afternoon.
TIA
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While we're on the subject of hotels ... does anyone know if the Hilton in downtown Omaha is criminal-friendly or not? I have a meeting there this afternoon.
TIA
Not sure but I would doubt it is CCW friendly as I believe that is the one that is owned by the city of Omaha.
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Not sure but I would doubt it is CCW friendly as I believe that is the one that is owned by the city of Omaha.
Guess I'll find out in a couple hours.
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Guess I'll find out in a couple hours.
They do not.
Thank you for your message to Hilton Reservations and Customer Care.
We apologize for the delay in responding. We experienced some e-mail systems issues that have now been resolved. It is our policy that we do not allow anyone (including off duty law enforcement officers) to possess firearms in any of our hotels. The only exceptions are:
A. Sworn federal, state or local law enforcement officers while on official business and, when off duty, when required to carry weapons in the jurisdiction by statute, ordinance or rule, or an exception otherwise made by a Regional Senior Vice President.
B. Insured and/or bonded armored car service employees under contract to the hotel, hotel guests, tenants or concessionaires, when required by law or for insurance.
C. Airline flight crew members authorized by federal law who have current and valid credentials issued by the Department of Homeland Security/TSA as Federal Flight Deck Officers ("FFDOs").
You may request in the future that the hotel store your unloaded firearm in a Safe Deposit Box during your stay.
It is our intention is simply to provide a reasonable degree of safety and security at all times for every guest, tenant, customer, visitor and team member coming onto our property.
We appreciate this opportunity to assist you and thank you for your continued loyalty! If you have any further questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to let us know.
For immediate assistance, please click on the link below for the contact number of the HHonors Service Center nearest you:
http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/...t,HeadCustomer (http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/...t,HeadCustomer)
Best regards,
John
Senior Lead Email Coordinator
Customer Care Email Department
Hilton Reservations and Customer Care
Diamond Special Services
Hilton Worldwide
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No signs on the entry doors. Didn't see any in the lobby either.
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Just a thought, but concealed means concealed, and if it is out of sight, it is out of mind.
By seeking out the information from the establishment, you bring it "into mind," and in some cases may cause an easily imaginable response of some manager saying "You know, we should put up some signs."
Due to the ignorance of far too many, bringing attention to this issue can illicit only a negative reaction from the general population, as seen with the public outcry for an AWB after the Aurora incident. The AWB expired in 2004 with no real outcry to have it renewed, until some jackball brings attention to it by using an "Assault Weapon" to murder and maim a 50 some odd number innocent people.
The establishment has the responsibility of posting signage or informing you. In other words, I would generally discourage actively seeking out the information from the establishment.
When dealing with the AVERAGE manager, it is far easier to get them to put up signs than to take them down.
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They do not.
Thank you for your message to Hilton Reservations and Customer Care.
We apologize for the delay in responding. We experienced some e-mail systems issues that have now been resolved. It is our policy that we do not allow anyone (including off duty law enforcement officers) to possess firearms in any of our hotels. The only exceptions are:
A. Sworn federal, state or local law enforcement officers while on official business and, when off duty, when required to carry weapons in the jurisdiction by statute, ordinance or rule, or an exception otherwise made by a Regional Senior Vice President.
B. Insured and/or bonded armored car service employees under contract to the hotel, hotel guests, tenants or concessionaires, when required by law or for insurance.
C. Airline flight crew members authorized by federal law who have current and valid credentials issued by the Department of Homeland Security/TSA as Federal Flight Deck Officers ("FFDOs").
You may request in the future that the hotel store your unloaded firearm in a Safe Deposit Box during your stay.
It is our intention is simply to provide a reasonable degree of safety and security at all times for every guest, tenant, customer, visitor and team member coming onto our property.
We appreciate this opportunity to assist you and thank you for your continued loyalty! If you have any further questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to let us know.
For immediate assistance, please click on the link below for the contact number of the HHonors Service Center nearest you:
http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/...t,HeadCustomer (http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/...t,HeadCustomer)
Best regards,
John
Senior Lead Email Coordinator
Customer Care Email Department
Hilton Reservations and Customer Care
Diamond Special Services
Hilton Worldwide
I would write them back and ask them what their definition of "reasonable" is, and if they are providing an armed bodyguard for you and accepting all resposibility for your safety, since they are taking away your ability to protect yourself by forcing you to be disarmed while on their premises.
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I would write them back and ask them what their definition of "reasonable" is, and if they are providing an armed bodyguard for you and accepting all resposibility for your safety, since they are taking away your ability to protect yourself by forcing you to be disarmed while on their premises.
DING DING. THAT"S EXACTLY WHAT WENT THROUGH MY MIND WHEN I READ THAT TIDBIT!
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My brother sent an email to them as he was looking for a hotel that is CCW friendly while he was traveling earlier this year. That is the response he got. I agree, unless they have armed personnel, that is complete and utter BS.. ESPECIALLY this..
"It is our policy that we do not allow anyone (including off duty law enforcement officers) to possess firearms in any of our hotels."
They cannot tell an LE officer that he cannot carry there.
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The net of it is, they don't have signs up indicating their policy. The law requires them to put up signs. (I checked two different entrances - the main entrance and the one from the parking garage.)
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The net of it is, they don't have signs up indicating their policy. The law requires them to put up signs. (I checked two different entrances - the main entrance and the one from the parking garage.)
Thats all that matters, glad we could get a sign check there!
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Just a thought, but concealed means concealed, and if it is out of sight, it is out of mind.
By seeking out the information from the establishment, you bring it "into mind," and in some cases may cause an easily imaginable response of some manager saying "You know, we should put up some signs."
Due to the ignorance of far too many, bringing attention to this issue can illicit only a negative reaction from the general population, as seen with the public outcry for an AWB after the Aurora incident. The AWB expired in 2004 with no real outcry to have it renewed, until some jackball brings attention to it by using an "Assault Weapon" to murder and maim a 50 some odd number innocent people.
The establishment has the responsibility of posting signage or informing you. In other words, I would generally discourage actively seeking out the information from the establishment.
When dealing with the AVERAGE manager, it is far easier to get them to put up signs than to take them down.
Agreed. The more this issue is brought up, it becomes more likely that they will post the signs.
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Every time I hear about a Motel or Hotel banning firearms, I wonder just how they can ban firearms in a room that is your legal domicile for the duration of your stay.
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Every time I hear about a Motel or Hotel banning firearms, I wonder just how they can ban firearms in a room that is your legal domicile for the duration of your stay.
Where is the Like Button?
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The net of it is, they don't have signs up indicating their policy. The law requires them to put up signs. (I checked two different entrances - the main entrance and the one from the parking garage.)
I was actually going to post on here about my trip to Lincoln this past weekend.
As a CCW permit holder, I have been really watching for door signs. We stayed at the Americ Inn down south along hwy 2.
In the little book in our room, it said no firearms allowed in the gotel.
However, the entrance had no sign.
I opted to just keep my mouth shut and carry on.
Americ Inn should be put on the list???
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I frequent the Applebee's in Bellevue and checked the front foyer yesterday for signage. I was prompted to do so for two reasons: 1) this site has it listed 2) a guest that was obviously CC'ing. Let me make clear that I was not checking to confront the patron, but, only to see whether the signage had changed. I took some time to both check the foyer and the exterior of the building. I did not notice any anti-weapons signage. But, will check again sometime over the weekend.
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They do not.
Thank you for your message to Hilton Reservations and Customer Care.
We apologize for the delay in responding. We experienced some e-mail systems issues that have now been resolved. It is our policy that we do not allow anyone (including off duty law enforcement officers) to possess firearms in any of our hotels. The only exceptions are:
A. Sworn federal, state or local law enforcement officers while on official business and, when off duty, when required to carry weapons in the jurisdiction by statute, ordinance or rule, or an exception otherwise made by a Regional Senior Vice President.
B. Insured and/or bonded armored car service employees under contract to the hotel, hotel guests, tenants or concessionaires, when required by law or for insurance.
C. Airline flight crew members authorized by federal law who have current and valid credentials issued by the Department of Homeland Security/TSA as Federal Flight Deck Officers ("FFDOs").
You may request in the future that the hotel store your unloaded firearm in a Safe Deposit Box during your stay.
It is our intention is simply to provide a reasonable degree of safety and security at all times for every guest, tenant, customer, visitor and team member coming onto our property.
We appreciate this opportunity to assist you and thank you for your continued loyalty! If you have any further questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to let us know.
For immediate assistance, please click on the link below for the contact number of the HHonors Service Center nearest you:
http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/...t,HeadCustomer (http://hhonors1.hilton.com/en_US/hh/...t,HeadCustomer)
Best regards,
John
Senior Lead Email Coordinator
Customer Care Email Department
Hilton Reservations and Customer Care
Diamond Special Services
Hilton Worldwide
So, my first thought with this: They want a citizen that has had a background check to obtain a firearm, hand their weapon over to a Hotel Clerk for storage? I don't know anything about that person....not going to happen. Unloaded only means unloaded only as far as the next Walmart for a quick ammo purchase. Simply said, I wouldn't trust them with my weapon. I don't know them from Adam. Just my 2 cents.
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What if the one working at the counter has a felony record that doesn't allow him to come into contact with a gun?
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Checked and double checked...I did not see that Applebee's in Bellevue was posted anywhere. I've probably checked their front door and foyer area at least 3 or 4 times.
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Does anyone know if the Centry-Link Center is anti-CCW or the Home&Garden Expo event? Would like to head down there this weekend, but don't want to get there only to be required to walk back to the car and leave my firearm.
Thanks
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^^ I believe I have read on here it is posted.
I recently stayed at a Embassy Suites which is owned by Hilton in KC and noticed the damn sign on the revolving door. Now I’m not going to check my weapon with a clerk and certainly not going to leave it locked in the truck overnight. I just used the single door where there was no sign and concealed means concealed. In the future I will not go there.
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^^ I believe I have read on here it is posted.
Yes, CenturyLink is posted.
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I went to the food court on the South East side of the South Pointe, close to the intersection of 32nd and Pine Lake road. As I opened the door I noticed a "No Guns" sign. There are several food vendors in that court, so it must be the court management that has the policy.
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May have missed it in my search, but what about Scheels at Village Point?
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May have missed it in my search, but what about Scheels at Village Point?
Scheels itself is carry friendly.
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Hotels. Motels.
They have a issue some may not have thought of.
Years ago, my wife and I stayed at a motel while motorcycling across the country. Five minutes into our room, we decided we wanted another room, went down to the desk, and switched rooms.
The next morning, while we were packing to continue on, we discovered we had not moved something from our first room to the second room. The people in our first room checked out ahead of us, and we lost that item.
It was not a gun, but what if someone did leave a gun in a room, and someone found it?
I cannot disagree with a hotel policy of no guns, because of what happened to me.
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Hotels. Motels.
They have a issue some may not have thought of.
Years ago, my wife and I stayed at a motel while motorcycling across the country. Five minutes into our room, we decided we wanted another room, went down to the desk, and switched rooms.
The next morning, while we were packing to continue on, we discovered we had not moved something from our first room to the second room. The people in our first room checked out ahead of us, and we lost that item.
It was not a gun, but what if someone did leave a gun in a room, and someone found it?
I cannot disagree with a hotel policy of no guns, because of what happened to me.
I would argue that you would be responsible for losing your firearm regardless of if it's a hotel room, a public restroom or anywhere else.
On a related note, I wonder if it would even be legal for a hotel to ban guns because it would be considered your dwelling? A dwelling, as defined by NE Statute 28-1406 (http://nebraskalegislature.gov/laws/statutes.php?statute=28-1406 (http://nebraskalegislature.gov/laws/statutes.php?statute=28-1406)) states "...Dwelling shall mean any building or structure, though movable or temporary, or a portion thereof, which is for the time being the actor's home or place of lodging; ..." I would think that a hotel would be considered a temporary lodging, and hence a dwelling with all the things that that entails, such as no duty to retreat, etc. Of course, I'm not a lawyer and this is just my curious ramblings.
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On a related note, I wonder if it would even be legal for a hotel to ban guns because it would be considered your dwelling? A dwelling, as defined by NE Statute 28-1406 (http://nebraskalegislature.gov/laws/statutes.php?statute=28-1406 (http://nebraskalegislature.gov/laws/statutes.php?statute=28-1406)) states "...Dwelling shall mean any building or structure, though movable or temporary, or a portion thereof, which is for the time being the actor's home or place of lodging; ..." I would think that a hotel would be considered a temporary lodging, and hence a dwelling with all the things that that entails, such as no duty to retreat, etc. Of course, I'm not a lawyer and this is just my curious ramblings.
That is the way I see it too
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The hotel/motel question came up in my CHP class last Saturday. I read it the same way, Dan. But I left myself an out in case I'm wrong.
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There's a mini strip mall near Galvin / Cornhusker.
https://maps.google.com/maps?q=41.152010,+-95.915012&num=1&t=h&vpsrc=0&ie=UTF8&z=19&iwloc=A
Has a Papa Johns, DI's Hair Salon, Bank of NE, and a Great Dragon (or Golden Dragon or something).
Anyhoo, the parking lot for the strip mall is pretty small, and has only two entrances. Both of which are marked with a sign as no-carry.
So whoever owns the strip mall property has that stuff up.
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There is an app for that
http://www.examiner.com/article/app-lets-consumers-network-to-id-gun-free-zone-businesses (http://www.examiner.com/article/app-lets-consumers-network-to-id-gun-free-zone-businesses)
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Add the National Safety Council of Nebraska.
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Add the National Safety Council of Nebraska.
Ironic, but not surprising. ::)
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Ironic, but not surprising. ::)
Yeah, they had brochures all over the place for concealed carry classed. LOL
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Wahoo Super is posted no guns. Sign is nowhere near the door. It is on the front window as far as possible from the door.
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I've been watching armslist.com pretty regularly in case a deal happens to show up. I've seen a lot of ads posted by 13th Street Jewelry and Loan in regards to ammo and guns. Never been there and I happened to be in the area so I thought I'd check it out.
I guess I am pretty naive and just not used to the ways of an urban pawn shop. First off, you step into this tiny entry way where you speak to the employee through a microphone since they are behind a glass window. I then had to wait my turn since evidently, they only allow one Customer in the store at a time. When it was "my turn", I was asked "Do you have any guns on you"? (I'm wearing jeans and a t-shirt). I almost left then, but thought since I was there, I'd go ahead and check it out.
I get inside and there is very, very little "inventory" to look at. I am surprised this dump even survives. Then, I spot a brick of Thunderbolt .22 rounds and several loose 50 round boxes. The sticker says $2.50 per 50 round box. I thought, oh well, I haven't bought any .22 ammo lately and I had a few bucks in my pocket so I'd go ahead and buy a couple since I was there. I told the lady I'd take 4 boxes (200 rounds at $10). It came to $44! :o The actual price for a 50 round box was between $11 and $13! Of course I left without any ammo...and a vow to NEVER return to that store again. I sort of expect for a pawn shop or similar store to have slightly higher prices, but this was ridiculous.
Not only are they not CCW friendly, the store is entirely not Customer friendly and their prices are insane.
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I've been watching armslist.com pretty regularly in case a deal happens to show up. I've seen a lot of ads posted by 13th Street Jewelry and Loan in regards to ammo and guns. Never been there and I happened to be in the area so I thought I'd check it out.
I guess I am pretty naive and just not used to the ways of an urban pawn shop. First off, you step into this tiny entry way where you speak to the employee through a microphone since they are behind a glass window. I then had to wait my turn since evidently, they only allow one Customer in the store at a time. When it was "my turn", I was asked "Do you have any guns on you"? (I'm wearing jeans and a t-shirt). I almost left then, but thought since I was there, I'd go ahead and check it out.
I get inside and there is very, very little "inventory" to look at. I am surprised this dump even survives. Then, I spot a brick of Thunderbolt .22 rounds and several loose 50 round boxes. The sticker says $2.50 per 50 round box. I thought, oh well, I haven't bought any .22 ammo lately and I had a few bucks in my pocket so I'd go ahead and buy a couple since I was there. I told the lady I'd take 4 boxes (200 rounds at $10). It came to $44! :o The actual price for a 50 round box was between $11 and $13! Of course I left without any ammo...and a vow to NEVER return to that store again. I sort of expect for a pawn shop or similar store to have slightly higher prices, but this was ridiculous.
Not only are they not CCW friendly, the store is entirely not Customer friendly and their prices are insane.
I can understand why pawn shops don't want any armed customers coming in, CHP or not. Seems like a sound business decision in light of the clientele they deal with.
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Creighton University and all its vehicles. I know it states this in the law. However it is not very well posted on campus and it bears noting. I can tell you from personal experience Creighton is very anti weapon.
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Looks like we can take NFM off the anti-ccw list and add them to the pro-ccw one.
http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/CCW-To-Be-Allowed-Inside-Nebraska-Furniture-Mart-202435271.html (http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/CCW-To-Be-Allowed-Inside-Nebraska-Furniture-Mart-202435271.html)
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Sams Club? Wal Mart? If someone would save me 16 pages of reading, that would be great.
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Sams Club? Wal Mart?
If you are inquiring about if the above are anti-CCW, the answer would be no. One reason to not become a Costco member or drop your membership....
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If you are inquiring about if the above are anti-CCW, the answer would be no. One reason to not become a Costco member or drop your membership....
So Sam's & Wal Mart, yes on CC, and Costco, no. Got it. No Costco in Lincoln anyway.
With a thread like this one, a grand list should be created.
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android app called Gun Free Zone is pretty lame, cause it lists lots of businesses, with a question mark next to them. Sam's Club was a question mark. I just entered OK, so maybe now it will show OK, but I think it takes more than one reference to show up.
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http://nebraskafirearms.org/unfriendly-business-list/ (http://nebraskafirearms.org/unfriendly-business-list/)
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NP Dodge park in Omaha has a sign at the park entrance.........."NO WEAPONS Permitted Including Lawful Concealed Carry"
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I went to the Henry Doorly Zoo last Monday and there were no "gun free" signs at the newly remodeled entrance. None at the new ticket booths either. Some of the buildings in the zoo still have signage and one of the gates at the north end still had a sign. Maybe they are not caught up with signage for the remodel, so it's worth watching.
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With a thread like this one, a grand list should be created
Just one list is needed. One holding names and addresses of places NOT allowing CCW. The current list has them all mixed up and with contradictions. That one list would be shorter, I hope, than a list give names and addresses of places that DO allow CCW.
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I can understand why pawn shops don't want any armed customers coming in, CHP or not. Seems like a sound business decision in light of the clientele they deal with.
PawnPlus on north 90th is ccw friendly.
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I went to the Omaha Zoo this weekend, and I didn't see any signs prohibiting weapons, and I was really looking closely in the parts my daughter and I went. There was an overabundance of no smoking signs posted, so I would assume if no CCW/OC was allowed I would have seen it.
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Fed Ex on 71st & Q has no weapons permitted sign at the entrance (Omaha)
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I noticed it wasn't up after the front was remodeled as well.
I went to the Omaha Zoo this weekend, and I didn't see any signs prohibiting weapons, and I was really looking closely in the parts my daughter and I went. There was an overabundance of no smoking signs posted, so I would assume if no CCW/OC was allowed I would have seen it.
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The ONLY sign at the new main gate at HDZ is on 1 a-frame style poster in the bottom right corner. So, if it's not out, facing the wrong way, nocked over, or you are coming from the other direction you won't see it.
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Yeah I know, Tis why I still carry there. Was just chiming in that the deputy I was shooting the **** with said that SHE was told by management when she first started that conceal carry is not allowed in that theater. Well they didn't tell me, and they havent posted so until so, it is still a carry zone.
New to the site and CCW for myself. Glad to see Twin Creek Theatres on the friendly side, this is blocks from my house. Also glad NFM came around as I love spending money on electronics I do not need. :)
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Just went to The Omaha Children's Museum with my daughter. On the entrance there is a sigh that says "No weapons of any kind INCLUDING legally concealed handguns". What a crock of ****. Given Newtown I would think a place like that would want to make itself a LESS desirable place for a massacre of children and not a better target. So I left my 1911 in the car where it could have been stolen instead of on my belt where it should have been.
Please add the Children's museum to the anti list.
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PawnPlus on north 90th is ccw friendly.
The owner of PawnPlus (and Little Engines) is also a FFL. His name is Mick.
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Why is the Zoo on the unfriendly list if no signs?
Could dates be added to the list to know when last updated/added?
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Why is the Zoo on the unfriendly list if no signs?
Could dates be added to the list to know when last updated/added?
I was just there today. I didn't carry because it was listed as anti CCW on NFOA but come to think of it I never saw a sign. To be fair I didn't look for one either.
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Several members have reported since the Zoo's remodel that the sign has been placed in an area that is very difficult to find, so there may or may not be a sign, and I tend to err on the side of caution.
But everyone needs to recognize that the list is just a volunteer generated thing that is not guaranteed to be correct at any time, and is always subject to change, so much so that I sometimes question why we keep it at all.
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AmericInn in Omaha, across the street from Westroads Mall. No sign on the door, but when you read the guest directory in the room, under house rules: it says firearms are not permitted in the hotel. I know about private property rights from previous posts, but really, if you're going to post, do it right. Really? You pay for your room, unpack, settle in, and then, have an oh sh*t moment. Not cool at all.
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AmericInn in Omaha, across the street from Westroads Mall. No sign on the door, but when you read the guest directory in the room, under house rules: it says firearms are not permitted in the hotel. I know about private property rights from previous posts, but really, if you're going to post, do it right. Really? You pay for your room, unpack, settle in, and then, have an oh sh*t moment. Not cool at all.
Not conspicuously posted, then I don't go searching for it. I bet nearly every hotel has a similar rule if you dig deep enough.
Fly
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I don't think a motel can legally stop you from keeping a gun in your temporary residence
ETA They can ask you to leave if they choose to
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Ameritas Group (life insurance, investments, dental insurance) in Lincoln is unfriendly.
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From the Nebraska Crossing Outlet Mall:
Hi Wilson,
It has been determined that Nebraska Crossing will be a gun free zone and we will have signage that represents this on our property.
Thank you,
Nebraska Crossing Outlets
www.nexoutlets.com (http://www.nexoutlets.com)
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The listing for anti-firearm businesses shows the Napa store on Cornhusker in Bellevue. There is no sign on the door and when I asked, the employees had no knowledge if any restrictions.
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I am a new member and new to the forum, so I hope I get this posted in the right place. When the new No Frills at 204th & Pacific first opened, they had a "no firearms, even legally concealed ones" sign on the door. I wrote them a letter and two weeks later it was gone. I am sure I was not the only one. We must continue to let those who would infringe on our rights hear from us.
Glad to be a member and part of the forum!
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When we asked the manager in Costco about their policy, he handed us the policy statement from their website that says you can NOT carry in Costco. When we informed us that they should have a sign on their door stating such, they said they don't have to do that to be able to enforce their policy BECAUSE they are a club store and, therefore, are not a place of "'public accommodation' within the meaning of civil rights laws. The definition of 'public accommodation' does not include a bona fide private club or other establishment that is not in fact open to the public".
They obviously have lawyers too! Costco, in my opinion, is trying to have it both ways here. They have a policy, but REFUSE to post such notification on the front of the store because they KNOW that in this state it would cost them business. I am dumping my Costco membership and joining Sam's Club.
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New to NFOA but wanted to let you know Omaha Primary Eye Care 146th and Center in Omaha now has an anti gun sign posted at the front door.
-Medicineman
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When we asked the manager in Costco about their policy, he handed us the policy statement from their website that says you can NOT carry in Costco. When we informed us that they should have a sign on their door stating such, they said they don't have to do that to be able to enforce their policy BECAUSE they are a club store and, therefore, are not a place of "'public accommodation' within the meaning of civil rights laws. The definition of 'public accommodation' does not include a bona fide private club or other establishment that is not in fact open to the public".
They obviously have lawyers too! Costco, in my opinion, is trying to have it both ways here. They have a policy, but REFUSE to post such notification on the front of the store because they KNOW that in this state it would cost them business. I am dumping my Costco membership and joining Sam's Club.
Good to know....I was considering switching from Sams to Costco.....not now
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When we asked the manager in Costco about their policy, he handed us the policy statement from their website that says you can NOT carry in Costco. When we informed us that they should have a sign on their door stating such, they said they don't have to do that to be able to enforce their policy BECAUSE they are a club store and, therefore, are not a place of "'public accommodation' within the meaning of civil rights laws. The definition of 'public accommodation' does not include a bona fide private club or other establishment that is not in fact open to the public".
They obviously have lawyers too! Costco, in my opinion, is trying to have it both ways here. They have a policy, but REFUSE to post such notification on the front of the store because they KNOW that in this state it would cost them business. I am dumping my Costco membership and joining Sam's Club.
Do they sell alcohol? If so, they cannot charge a membership fee, for alcohol in Nebraska. Anyone, of legal age, can walk into a Cosco or Sam's Club, and purchase a bottle of wine, without a membership fee.
This being the case, the premises, is not a private club, and does not benefit from private club status.
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So where does COSTCO stand? Do they need to post a sign or not? I would hate to see anyone get caught and get in trouble for carrying concealed inside based on technicalities. If they don't want folks carrying then we should let as many folks know as possible.
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I'm aware this isn't in Nebraska but I believe it's a pretty popular place in Iowa for Nebraska motorcycle riders. The Twisted Tail in BeeBeeTown Iowa now has a sign on the front door stating no firearms. Mods if I'm out of line my apologies.
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Do they sell alcohol? If so, they cannot charge a membership fee, for alcohol in Nebraska. Anyone, of legal age, can walk into a Cosco or Sam's Club, and purchase a bottle of wine, without a membership fee.
This being the case, the premises, is not a private club, and does not benefit from private club status.
Go give it a try and report back,okay?
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The listing for anti-firearm businesses shows the Napa store on Cornhusker in Bellevue. There is no sign on the door and when I asked, the employees had no knowledge if any restrictions.
Last time I went in there it was on the glass next to the left side entrance, not on the door itself. Several years out of date mind you, I have not been back since.
Ron
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I didn't see it on the front page and search in the forum didn't come up with anything.
Anyone know about Blue Moon fitness being posted? i'm considering joining but haven't been by the building yet and was wondering if anyone on here knew.
thanks
edit: no reply before i got off work so i just went and checked out for myself. no signage posted on the front door or thereabouts. went in, got a tour, signed up.
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is there anything anti about village point as a whole, or is it store by store preference?
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it must be store by store, I called Scheels a while back and they told me I can conceal carry there, so I do. I do not go to many other stores there so I do not have knowledge of them.
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it must be store by store, I called Scheels a while back and they told me I can conceal carry there, so I do. I do not go to many other stores there so I do not have knowledge of them.
Scheels is posted for allowing legal concealed carry, sign is on front door when entering.
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Scheels is posted for allowing legal concealed carry, sign is on front door when entering.
which door is front? we walked in the door that faces outside the mall and didn't see a sign last week.
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Hiro 88 in the Railyard - I work there. We have no posted anti-gun signs and have several Big Shots employees that are frequent visitors. Come on out!
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I need some help. I the Durham Outpatient Clinic part of a hospital? It has no sign up about no CCW so am I correct in my thinking that it is ok to carry there. Thank you for your help. John
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Durham Outpatient Clinic part of a hospital?
Not gospel, but someone posted a while back the definition of a hospital requires the ability to admit you as a patient...not sure where they got that information or if it applies in this case. I would recommend not CCW'ing there until you are sure
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Thank you Dan. I try not to leave my $ where i'm not welcome but at times I must ( VA hospital and my wives Dr visits) it seems like you have to at times. Again thank you Dan. My money has been kind of tight lately but after the first of the month I will set aside few $ every month to help out my fellow Nebraskans. They have helped me in ways they will never know. John
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In Plattsmouth, there are no signs posted at No Frills supermarket. The list says that sign removal is pending, so it apparently has been accomplished.
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Thank you Dan. I was able to find this on their site. They seem to do their best to hide stuff. I hope this will help others. I'm sorry if I did this wrong. John
Policy No.: 2001
Effective Date: 07/20/90
Revised Date: 07/08/09
Reviewed Date: 11/30/12
Deadly Weapon Policy
Policy
It is the policy of the University of Nebraska Medical Center to prohibit possession of deadly weapons on University property. For purposes of this policy, a deadly weapon can be identified as any firearm, knife, bludgeon, or other device, instrument, material, or substance, whether animate or inanimate, which, in the manner it is used or is intended to be used, is capable of producing death or serious bodily injury.
No persons, on or entering University premises, will be allowed to retain in their possession firearms, guns, weapons, ammunition explosives or incendiary devices. Any item classifiable as a potentially dangerous weapon, and for which a purpose of possession cannot be established, is prohibited. Members of the law enforcement agencies of municipal, county, state and federal governments on official visits on campus are exempt from this provision.
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It is the policy of the University of Nebraska Medical Center to prohibit possession of deadly weapons on University property.
You should have included the information that the clinic is located on University property....possession of a handgun on any school property is a felony, except that a CHP holder can securely store their legally carried handgun in their car while parked on University property, or on their person while driving through the property, but it must never leave the car.
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You should have included the information that the clinic is located on University property....possession of a handgun on any school property is a felony, except that a CHP holder can securely store their legally carried handgun in their car while parked on University property, or on their person while driving through the property, but it must never leave the car.
And some Universities ban all weapons everywhere on property they control, even parking lots.
"The possession of deadly weapons on property controlled by the University of Nebraska Omaha is prohibited. This restriction includes weapons concealed or not concealed, on the person or in a vehicle."
https://www.unomaha.edu/policies/docs/Weapon%20Prohibition.pdf (https://www.unomaha.edu/policies/docs/Weapon%20Prohibition.pdf)
Kent
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UNO can say anything they want, but I don't believe they can legally do that
018.06 Except as prohibited by federal law, a permit holder may carry a concealed handgun in a vehicle or on his or her person while riding in or on a vehicle into or onto any parking area which is open to the public and used by any of the places or premises listed in Section 018.01 above if the handgun is not removed from the vehicle and the handgun is properly secured in the vehicle before the permit holder exits the vehicle. To be properly secured in the vehicle, the handgun must be locked inside the glove box, trunk or other compartment of the vehicle, in a storage box attached to the vehicle, or in a securely attached hardened compartment if the vehicle is a motorcycle.
UNO falls into this category
018.01I School building, school grounds, school-owned vehicle, or school-sponsored activity or athletic event of any public,private, denominational, or parochial elementary, vocational, or secondary school, a private postsecondary career school as defined in Nebraska Revised Statutes § 85-1603, a community college, or a public or private college, junior college, or university;
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And some Universities ban all weapons everywhere on property they control, even parking lots.
"The possession of deadly weapons on property controlled by the University of Nebraska Omaha is prohibited. This restriction includes weapons concealed or not concealed, on the person or in a vehicle."
https://www.unomaha.edu/policies/docs/Weapon%20Prohibition.pdf (https://www.unomaha.edu/policies/docs/Weapon%20Prohibition.pdf)
Kent
UNO can say anything they want, but I don't believe they can legally do that
UNO falls into this category
I assume that would be the case for the general public, but I would assume for students enrolled at UNO that they would be subject to school policies, similar to employees. We as CHP holders can store a weapon in a secure place in our car on school grounds, but teachers can still be prohibited from having a weapon in the car as a condition of employment. It might not have teh force of law, but still applies as a policy, I would think anyway.
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I assume that would be the case for the general public, but I would assume for students enrolled at UNO that they would be subject to school policies, similar to employees. We as CHP holders can store a weapon in a secure place in our car on school grounds, but teachers can still be prohibited from having a weapon in the car as a condition of employment. It might not have teh force of law, but still applies as a policy, I would think anyway.
Correct
But I was responding to a patient at the clinic. Niether a student nor an employee of UNO
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And some Universities ban all weapons everywhere on property they control, even parking lots.
"The possession of deadly weapons on property controlled by the University of Nebraska Omaha is prohibited. This restriction includes weapons concealed or not concealed, on the person or in a vehicle."
https://www.unomaha.edu/policies/docs/Weapon%20Prohibition.pdf (https://www.unomaha.edu/policies/docs/Weapon%20Prohibition.pdf)
Kent
As a graduate student and teaching assistant at the UNO, I brought this concern straight to campus security and spoke with the officer in charge. He told me that I could legally store my pistol in my car (glovebox, safe, etc.) when I park it on campus.
On a side note, with the re-finishing of the parking garage signs, the "postings" have been removed.
Another addition: Red Cross at 38th and Dewey in Omaha is posted.
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Ask that Campus Security Officer if he is willing to put that in writing on University letterhead.
Bet he won't.....
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I just cancelled my Costco membership due to their CCW policy. The store in Omaha is NOT posted. When a buddy of mine asked about this, the manager told him that Costco has a national policy prohibiting CCW, BUT hey get by without posting their stores because they are, technically anyway, not open to the public since they are a "club". This is Costco's way of straddling the fence on this issue.
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I just cancelled my Costco membership due to their CCW policy. The store in Omaha is NOT posted. When a buddy of mine asked about this, the manager told him that Costco has a national policy prohibiting CCW, BUT hey get by without posting their stores because they are, technically anyway, not open to the public since they are a "club". This is Costco's way of straddling the fence on this issue.
Glad to hear you cancelled your membership. Costco doesn't even have the cajones to make their anti-gun discrimination public.
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In regards to UNO, how could they even enforce their policy? I wish them the best of luck :laugh: UNMC just banned everything in their policy as the belt holding up my pants has potential to be a deadly weapon. So I guess interpretation is key.
In brighter news, Plattsmouth Hyvee hasn't confronted me while open carrying. No signage, but company policy is not very permissive on weapons. NAPA is also friendly in Plattsmouth. 8)
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I didn't take a picture of it, but the Salvation Army in Bellevue near 370 and Galvin is posted. (April 22nd 2014).
The GoodBytes store (goodwill tech stuff) on 72nd and F has on their front door a clause that includes "weapons free". I should probably have taken a picture of it for clarification.
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Another place NOT to eat out!
http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/chipotle-bans-guns (http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/chipotle-bans-guns)
Pizza Hut also does not allow carry.
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Texas Roadhouse in Papillion is now an unarmed victim zone.
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Texas Roadhouse in Papillion is now an unarmed victim zone.
Thank you Nebraska Open Carry. ... ( sigh )
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In regards to UNO, how could they even enforce their policy? I wish them the best of luck :laugh: UNMC just banned everything in their policy as the belt holding up my pants has potential to be a deadly weapon. So I guess interpretation is key.
In brighter news, Plattsmouth Hyvee hasn't confronted me while open carrying. No signage, but company policy is not very permissive on weapons. NAPA is also friendly in Plattsmouth. 8)
Two things, welcome!
And secondly, what are you open carrying in Hy-Vee?
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Thank you Nebraska Open Carry. ... ( sigh )
Yep. I hate to say it, but in the words of Sheldon;
"I Informed You Thusly! Oh How I Informed You Thusly"
:'( :-[ :'( :-[
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I ate at the Papillion Texas Roadhouse tonight and didn't see any no guns signs. Then again, I wasn't looking for any.
I'll decline to say if I was carrying or not :)
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I went there again tonight. Apparently concealed carry is ok. There were no gun signs on the outer doors but in the inner doors, each door had a sign declaring that open carry was prohibited.
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I hope that I am not opening a can of worms by asking this question, but, do we have a simple list that I can consult? I tried a search and came up empty handed.
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each door had a sign declaring that open carry was prohibited.
Now that is interesting and I kind of respect that.....
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I hope that I am not opening a can of worms by asking this question, but, do we have a simple list that I can consult? I tried a search and came up empty handed.
http://nebraskafirearms.org/unfriendly-business-list/ (http://nebraskafirearms.org/unfriendly-business-list/)
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I hope that I am not opening a can of worms by asking this question, but, do we have a simple list that I can consult? I tried a search and came up empty handed.
http://nebraskafirearms.org/unfriendly-business-list/ (http://nebraskafirearms.org/unfriendly-business-list/)
If you're looking for a specific business, hit Ctrl+F on your keyboard and type in the name of the business.
Edit: Apparently, Rick and I think alike. Scary! :o
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Target anti gun as of 7 / 2 / 2014
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I believe they are anti open carry. We'll wait to see if they post.
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We don't maintain this list just for CCW, thus the name "Unfriendly Business list" Any business that takes a public stance that is anti gun will make the list so that we can spend our hard earned dollars elsewhere anytime we have a choice.
Hopefully these recent Open Carry backlashes don't all progress into legally binding signs in the door that bar legal concealed carry, but an open carry ban is definitely not gun "Friendly"
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THIS
http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=AP&date=20140703&id=17752157 (http://money.msn.com/business-news/article.aspx?feed=AP&date=20140703&id=17752157)
is how it ought to be.
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I noticed entering NP Dodge Park yesterday the NO FIREARMS sign is not there anymore
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I can't say for sure, but I believe the city has taken the position that it cannot prohibit CHP holders from carrying in public parks. Lincoln has taken the opposite position (go figure).
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I can't say for sure, but I believe the city has taken the position that it cannot prohibit CHP holders from carrying in public parks. Lincoln has taken the opposite position (go figure).
That must be a new position for Omaha. I regularly run and ride at Tranquility Park and Cunningham Lake. Last time I took note, the signs were still there. I'll have to pay closer attention next time.
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well ya know we have a Omaha mayor with a CHP.
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That must be a new position for Omaha. I regularly run and ride at Tranquility Park and Cunningham Lake. Last time I took note, the signs were still there. I'll have to pay closer attention next time.
Most of those signs predate the preemption law. When he was City Attorney, it was Marty Conboy's position and was how the OPD trained its officers.
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well ya know we have a Omaha mayor with a CHP.
It actually goes back to the previous mayor. As for Mayor Stothert getting her CHP, she's a politician. She does some good, but still a politician.
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Hopefully these recent Open Carry backlashes don't all progress into legally binding signs in the door that bar legal concealed carry, but an open carry ban is definitely not gun "Friendly"
I guess that means Cabelas is not gun friendly.
Put Cabelas on the list.
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Lincoln is Nebraska's version of Boulder, CO. The liberal academia and hippies run the show there. Makes me sick that such a beautiful place has been transformed into Kalifornia 2.0.
Hopefully Nebraska won't suffer the migration of Kalifornians and eastcoasters like Colorado has over the past 20 years.
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Twisted Tail, the bar/restaurant in Beebeetown Iowa has removed the No Guns sign from the front door. FYI
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Twisted Tail, the bar/restaurant in Beebeetown Iowa has removed the No Guns sign from the front door. FYI
Iowa now honors Nebraska concealed carry permits.
In Iowa, "no guns" signs on privately owned businesses have no legal effect. If they find you carrying (i.e. you didn't conceal it properly), the most they can do is order you to leave. If you fail to comply, you can be charged with trespassing. Government owned facilities are more complicated and you have to be careful about them.
You can drink while carrying in Iowa up to a BAC of 0.08, the same limit as for driving. However, if you do need to defend yourself, I expect an opposing attorney would use it against you.
For definitive information, contact the Iowa Firearms Coalition (www.iowacarry.org (http://www.iowacarry.org)).
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Dolphins Car Wash, on 140th Street north of Center in Omaha, used to have "no guns" signs on the doors. Today, I noticed that they are gone from both the front door and the side entrance you use after leaving your car. They are a good car wash. Now that they are no longer publicly anti-gun, they are worth patronizing.
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Pine Lake Food Court at Southpoint in Lincoln.
Posted. Sad 'cause I love me some DeLeon's.
Would have dropped off a card, but everyone there are just tenants. Will have to chase down owner.
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Would have dropped off a card, but everyone there are just tenants. Will have to chase down owner.
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Wouldn't it benefit giving some cards to the managers? They see that they are losing business they go to owner of company and then owners go to landlord?
The chain company I worked for managers were given monthly bonuses based on store performance. So by looking customers they are losing cash from they bonus fund.
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Pine Lake Food Court at Southpoint in Lincoln.
Posted. Sad 'cause I love me some DeLeon's.
Would have dropped off a card, but everyone there are just tenants. Will have to chase down owner.
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nice selfie!
on a side note, i was going to eat there once, but left when i saw the sign. this was some time ago.
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The new Nebraska Game & Parks Outdoor Education Center in Lincoln...posted. Guess a few folks will stick to shooting at Big Shots or Thunder Alley.
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The new Nebraska Game & Parks Outdoor Education Center in Lincoln...posted. Guess a few folks will stick to shooting at Big Shots or Thunder Alley.
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After all the money we gave them? That's a damn kick in the nads!!
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After all the money we gave them? That's a damn kick in the nads!!
Yes indeed.....yes indeed...... As a member I request the B of D inquire into this action.....
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I will try, but I have been trying to contact Jeff about coming to the Annual Meeting to give us an update on things. My hopes was that we could get some answers . Sadly, I have received no response to my emails. When I get to feeling better, I'll try to make it to G&P HQ.
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We had a standing agreement we would be invited to the Grand Opening of the complex, and even a sneak peek before hand, somehow our invite musta got lost. Believe me, I'ma bit miffed, too.
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Could we get a post put on NFOA's facebook page and share it on NGPC's expressing our concern?
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To be precise the NFOA donation was not for this project, but for another rifle sight in range to be built on WMA land and open to the public
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DanW is right. Since we were adamant about were the money went, we will have to focus there.
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The "No Concealed Carry" sign at the new Nebraska Game & Parks Outdoor Education Center in Lincoln has been removed. However, two very large yellow signs state: "All guns must be unloaded, actions open and cased before entering the building. No exceptions."
I made a comment to a staff member about the " No Concealed Carry" signs being removed. I was given the response that the Education Center is a state office building and loaded firearms are not allowed in any state office building. Therefore posting the "No Concealed Carry" sign was not necessary. I didn't discuss the issue any further.
Besides that the two yellow signs say it all....."No exceptions".
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loaded firearms are not allowed in any state office building.
Talk about being misinformed..... I always wondered why NSP was unloading their duty weapons at the entrance of the Capital (yes, I am being sarcastic)
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Just gotta say that its funny in Nebraska we have listings like this. Been traveling Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming for the last few days and I have only run into 1 business that wouldn't let me carry while inside. I can understand why though it was The W.F. Cody museum in Cody Wyoming. :laugh:
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http://viralsurvival.com/2014/05/05/20-corporatoins-that-want-to-take-your-guns/ (http://viralsurvival.com/2014/05/05/20-corporatoins-that-want-to-take-your-guns/)
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That the best ya got? Why stop at 20 and promote some survivalist web site?
Comprehensive list courtesy of the NRA.
http://www.gunowners.org/fs0302.htm (http://www.gunowners.org/fs0302.htm)
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That the best ya got? Why stop at 20 and promote some survivalist web site?
Comprehensive list courtesy of the NRA.
http://www.gunowners.org/fs0302.htm (http://www.gunowners.org/fs0302.htm)
I'm pretty sure that GOA wouldn't want you to be promoting them as the NRA. ;)
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I'm pretty sure that GOA wouldn't want you to be promoting them as the NRA. ;)
Really, guess you didn't read it to well.
Top of the page, they admitted it themselves.
(compiled by the NRA Institute for Legislative Action)
Or did I miss something. I'm sorry if I don't speak survivalist lingo.
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Really, guess you didn't read it to well.
Top of the page, they admitted it themselves.
(compiled by the NRA Institute for Legislative Action)
Or did I miss something. I'm sorry if I don't speak survivalist lingo.
My mistake. I was just going by the web address.
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That the best ya got? Why stop at 20 and promote some survivalist web site?
Comprehensive list courtesy of the NRA.
http://www.gunowners.org/fs0302.htm (http://www.gunowners.org/fs0302.htm)
The reasons for these lists I believe are so gun folks have an idea of businesses to avoid ( NO GUNS NO MONEY) hit them in the pocket book.
Since you see fit to critique my list let me do yours. While your list was long, most of it is worthless. Take out the sports teams, cartoonist, poets, actors, stuff no ones ever heard of, no brainers like New York Times and colleges and you're left with very little to sink your teeth into. Anytime you list Hollywood celebs, it's more effective to list the handful that are pro gun.
Hallmark cards and Levi Strauss, now those are business I can avoid when I purchase items, I do business with their competition.
Don't get me wrong I do appreciate your list as I have read through it several times but I don't know what to do with things like The Council of the Great City Schools or Disarm Educational Fund. If you're going to list St. Louis University might as well list UNL and UNO.
Oh by the way your list is from 2009.
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Take out the sports teams, cartoonist, poets, actors, stuff no ones ever heard of, no brainers like New York Times ...
Don't forget to remove all the dead people. While dead Democrats have been known to vote more than once, they don't appear to speak at current events.
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My problem with this list is really simple, it takes 1 person to get a business on this list. Know a business owner who tried for 2 years after taking down the signs to get off this list. Gave up and no longer cares. Penalized a fellow gun owner for something he couldn't control.
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Who did this business owner/ gun owner get ahold of? Who/ When/ Why/ Where?
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I am the General Manager the Residence Inn in Lincoln. First... Guns are welcome in my hotel!!! It is our 2nd Amendment right. Being a Hotel Manager for 20+ years--- When you rent a hotel room, it is your temporary residence. You may have the gun in your room. However, if they are stupid and have that sign posted-- you cannot "carry" the gun on your person in public areas.
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However, if they are stupid and have that sign posted-- you cannot "carry" the gun on your person in public areas.
Glad to hear that Residence Inn supports the Constitution!
"Public areas" means the lobby, stairways, halls and elevators. So, in posted hotels/motels one cannot legally take a firearm into their "temporary residence". Of course, criminals intent on robbery have no compulsion to follow the law and leave their guns outside.
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Add Vala's Pumpkin Patch to the anti list.
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Pine Lake Food Court at Southpoint in Lincoln.
Posted. Sad 'cause I love me some DeLeon's.
Would have dropped off a card, but everyone there are just tenants. Will have to chase down owner.
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The sign prohibits CC. It says nothing about open carry, if I read the sign correctly. CC turns to OC if any part of the handgun is showing. Adjust your garment and go about your business. Only a trained eye would notice.
I would not put the CC handgun in the car and break out the AR. That would get the sign changed to no guns period.
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Gary, the sign reads "Firearms and weapons of any type are prohibited on the property."
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Gary, the sign reads "Firearms and weapons of any type are prohibited on the property."
Randy, Gary was referring to the Pine Lake food court, not the pumpkin patch.
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Sam and Louie's in Bellevue
3608 Twin Creek Drive
Bellevue, NE 68123
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^Nice!
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http://nebraskafirearms.org/unfriendly-business-list/ (http://nebraskafirearms.org/unfriendly-business-list/)
Not sure if this has been updated or not but I recently visited the Valentino’s near 35th and Holdrege only to find out that in their new digs there's no buffet. I was looking for "no gun" signs because I thought I remembered seeing them on this list (and they are). Anyhow, I did not find any "no gun" signs prominently placed. From there we left, since we were looking for the buffet. We headed to the Valentinos at 70th & Van Dorn and I also did not find any "no gun" signs there. I'd appreciate a second opinion on the signs, but I carried legally in both places as far as I could tell!
Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer.
Romans 12:12
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In the market for Steel Toes for work, again. The Fort Western store in Lincoln sealed themselves as my go to store.
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I am freaking THRILLED to see signs approving CC! Just had to say that.
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Guns prohibited at La Paz mexican restaurant in Lincoln, just north of O St on Cotner,
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Oakview mall in Omaha has a sign on one of the doors at main entrance, it's been about a year since the last time I was there, don't remember a sign the last time.
After the long walk back to lock my gun up, I was put at ease by the large amount of mall cops with radios, knowing if there was an issue they could call someone with a gun. (sarcasm)
I see they are already on the naughty list.
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FWIW, I don't ever go there unless there is absolutely no other option. In that case I roll the dice the other way, with my safety trumping their signage.
I just can't allow myself to be without protection and absolutely can't leave my weapon in a car in a mall parking lot.
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I was at the Valentino's in Lincoln on 70th Street a week or so ago and did not see a no guns sign. I did look for one because they used to have one. Perhaps someone should look into removing them from the list.
The Goodwill stores in Lincoln are not posted (unless I missed it). I was in two of them today.
The Salvation Army store here is posted. It's my understanding that the Salvation Army is considered a church; not just a Christian charity organization but an actual church. Is it possible that as a church state law prohibits carry in them? Or does the national organization oppose it? If it does, someone should explain to them that Jesus told his disciples to buy a sword before they went on the road.
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Baker's at 120th and west center road, Omaha, is posted.
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Baker's at 120th and west center road, Omaha, is posted.
I think that the property owner has that all posted and requires tenants to post as well. No other Bakers is posted so I would not hold them responsible.
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Has anyone put the nra on here yet? Nra sanctioned shows and events that they don't allow carry is about as hypothetical as it gets. "We want people to be able to carry, but not at our events. After all, now we're talking about our money/security/any other reason"
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Has anyone put the nra on here yet? Nra sanctioned shows and events that they don't allow carry is about as hypothetical hypocritical as it gets. "We want people to be able to carry, but not at our events. After all, now we're talking about our money/security/any other reason"
Damn auto correct...huh.
Fly
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Has anyone put the nra on here yet? Nra sanctioned shows and events that they don't allow carry is about as hypothetical as it gets. "We want people to be able to carry, but not at our events. After all, now we're talking about our money/security/any other reason"
What are these NRA sanctioned shows and events?
The only things they have around Omaha that I know of are the Friends of the NRA dinners. I didn't carry at the last one I attended because I had a couple cocktails, but I didn't see any no-gun signs.
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Has anyone put the nra on here yet? Nra sanctioned shows and events that they don't allow carry is about as hypothetical as it gets. "We want people to be able to carry, but not at our events. After all, now we're talking about our money/security/any other reason"
I note that often groups don't get choices about those sorts of things because the venue itself may have rules about it, often required by their insurance. I realize some people would say "Well then, don't use that venue!" but the response to that is how many large-scale venues do people think are available?
I'm not saying I like it--but I will say that often, that decision (carry/no-carry) is out of the hands of the organization who is holding the event. So to say that carry isn't allowed at NRA events isn't quite correct, to my understanding.
(Similar example: ENGC holds their monthly meetings in a place that is all about service, both military service and service to the community. And yet---carry is not allowed. For a gun club meeting. I don't hold that against the club, though it IS rather annoying. The club doesn't have a choice about it.)
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Fort Western in Lincoln has a sign like this on the entrance to the work wear store...spied it while shopping for Carhartt jackets
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Most gun shows are no carry for safety reasons and that most have insurance ( including NRA ) that don't allow it. After the discharge at a recent local show, and how some folks just like to whip guns around at these things, I tend to understand.
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Dollar General in Broken Bow is posted (No Firearms Allowed). Sign is definitely not conspicuously posted but it is there. Talked to the only person I saw (gave her a no guns no$ card) and she stated that the sign is not a Broken Bow policy but a corporate policy.
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For you farmers This is they channel and Fontaelle dealer on 56th and Fremont in Lincoln. I work a couple blocks away and was a little surprised driving by and seeing it.
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My guess is the reason an insurance company would insist on a no guns policy is that if there is a gun accident the one they insure would probably be liable if he did not have that policy but not liable if he did. If on the other hand there is a crime committed on the property, even a mass murder, and it could be demonstrated that if customers had not been disarmed the crime would likely have been stopped (not an easy thing to establish), the property owner would still probably not be held liable for any damages for having disarmed the victims (even though he should be). This is pure assumption on my part but it does make sense to me: insurance companies are known for being coldly pragmatic in regard to their bottom line; money matters to them, lives don't.
If my assumption is correct, a state law could be written that would change the situation. For example, if a crime is committed against disarmed customers the property owner can be sued by the victims, or their survivors.
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Please add Pizza Hut at 56th and South in Lincoln.
The complete address is:
5601 S 56th St, Lincoln, NE 68516
They are posted as prohibiting folks with concealed handguns from entering.
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So wife and kids wanted to go to Texas Roadhouse (Papillion) for Easter lunch today. I remembered seeing it listed on the unfriendly business list. I decided I will tempt fate (either disarm or just conceal carry - take a guess what I chose.. ;), ..) since it is the Easter weekend and headed there after church service. I did not see any State sanctioned sign as required on the outside doors. However on the inside doors, there was a sign "open carry prohibited in the premises" or something like that. I did ask to talk to the manager after we were done with lunch and he did come out. I asked him about the sign and he stated that as long as one has a CHP, they are more than welcome to conceal carry in there. He stated that open carry is NOT permitted as they have had issues in the past.
My question is, should they still be listed on the unfriendly Business list, since they technically don't prohibit conceal carry in their premises?
Davis.
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My question is, should they still be listed on the unfriendly Business list, since they technically don't prohibit conceal carry in their premises?
Do you consider being anti open carry as firearm friendly?
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Dan, I don't consider being anti open carry as firearm friendly. The issue here and is the subject on this forum says "Anti-CCW and Pro-CCW businesses listing". Am I missing something?
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^ You can thank the - Let's get 30+ people to Open Carry in an establishment, call ahead, notify the media and make a big deal out of it - Club for the No OC sign at the Papillion Texas Roadhouse. (rant off)
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I would consider the "NO OPEN CARRY" sign a victory, considering they could of put up a "NO GUN" sign.
I promised myself I wouldn't get involved with the OC vs CC debate, so that's all I got to say about that. :D
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Dan, I don't consider being anti open carry as firearm friendly. The issue here and is the subject on this forum says "Anti-CCW and Pro-CCW businesses listing". Am I missing something?
While that may be true for this thread, it is not the subject of the NFOA Firearm Unfriendly Business list that Texas Roadhouse is listed in. I do not just keep the list for CCW, but for all gun owners, and that includes open carry.
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Well... their name is Texas Roadhouse. Open carry is still not legal in Texas... :laugh:
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A st. Market 3308 A st. just recently posted a No Concealed Carry sign. The sign is new for them.
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A st. Market 3308 A st. just recently posted a No Concealed Carry sign. The sign is new for them.
What city is this in?
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Lincoln.
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Well... their name is Texas Roadhouse. Open carry is still not legal in Texas...
It soon will be ... the bill is headed to Greg Abbott's desk for his signature (which he says he will sign) ...
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It soon will be ... the bill is headed to Greg Abbott's desk for his signature (which he says he will sign) ...
In your opinion, considering that you still have family/friends in Texas, did the open carry demonstrations help get the bill through the legislature?
Fly
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The company I work for has a no concealed carry sign up just inside the main door. I am tempted since I get along well with the HR manager to approach him about open carry while at work. Just to get the debate going.... I'm sure the union foes will have a heyday about it!
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I'm sure the union foes will have a heyday about it!
I'm not following. Why would those opposed to a union have an issue with open carry?
Fly
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I'm not following. Why would those opposed to a union have an issue with open carry?
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Many of the union ppl I work with all pro gun. I am saying if I get the right people on my side they could stir the pot. They are REALLY REALLY good at it for no apprent reason.
I know what the answer of HR is going to be.... No guns or weapons of any kind on the premises. That's why I don't carry a pocket knife I carry a foldable letter opener.
Honestly my big complaint with my company could be solved with legislation that is in process now. The parking lot Bill and uniform signage. I know we are not suppose to carry guns at work. But the sign on the board makes it seems like I could openly carry my pistol into the office.
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Many of the union ppl I work with all pro gun. I am saying if I get the right people on my side they could stir the pot. They are REALLY REALLY good at it for no apprent reason.
I know what the answer of HR is going to be.... No guns or weapons of any kind on the premises. That's why I don't carry a pocket knife I carry a foldable letter opener.
So the union supporters are generally pro gun, at least at the company you work for?
Fly
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So the union supporters are generally pro gun, at least at the company you work for?
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Sorry guess this was a bad example...
The union in general is not pro gun that I know of as a hole. But you have power people just like any other organization. I know several of the power ppl are pro gun. If they would start squeaking about it they could get the mass started. Even if someone doesn't believe in it they will band wagon just Ecuador it's against the company...
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Sorry guess this was a bad example...
The union in general is not pro gun that I know of as a hole. But you have power people just like any other organization. I know several of the power ppl are pro gun. If they would start squeaking about it they could get the mass started. Even if someone doesn't believe in it they will band wagon just Ecuador it's against the company...
Ahhhh....gotcha. There is a union at my company too and it is as you say.
Fly
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I was a union tradesman for many years and most of the guys I worked with were strongly pro-gun. There were a few who said we should all march in lockstep with the liberal cattle herd, but they were in a minority. This is why I think the Republicans should reach out to unions and the Democrats should end their war on the Second Amendment. (sorry for continuing the derailment)
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Harbor Freight, via social media, has stated they want gun owners to leave guns in vehicles while shopping.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/06/robert-farago/incendiary-image-of-the-day-feelings-edition/ (http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/06/robert-farago/incendiary-image-of-the-day-feelings-edition/)
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Harbor Freight, via social media, has stated they want gun owners to leave guns in vehicles while shopping.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/06/robert-farago/incendiary-image-of-the-day-feelings-edition/ (http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/06/robert-farago/incendiary-image-of-the-day-feelings-edition/)
The store on North 90th in Omaha is not posted, I will continue to carry there until it is.
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They have since publicly said that they are honoring/following state laws. Carry on.
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Add the Omaha Buffalo Wild Wings on 74th & Dodge to the list of anti-ccw. Been there several times over the last couple months & no sign; went again today and they had it posted on the inner door. Made it a point to poke my head in and let them know their new sign just cost them business.
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Add the Omaha Buffalo Wild Wings on 74th & Dodge to the list of anti-ccw. Been there several times over the last couple months & no sign; went again today and they had it posted on the inner door. Made it a point to poke my head in and let them know their new sign just cost them business.
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I just saw that on facebook the other day...it may be a perfect time to feature them as the Anti-Carry business of the week!
Speaking of which...anyone who would like to nominate a business for either the Pro or Anti-Carry business of the week, please message me on here or email me the details & a pic of their sign (without your reflection please)... jfader.nfoa@gmail.com
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Yeah, sadly I didn't think of grabbing a pic until after I left. Maybe I'll go back tomorrow if I get time.
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i do have one of Buffalo Wild Wings that someone posted on facebook...definitely snap a pic of any other ones that you see! 8)
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I don't know if it's already on here or not, but I saw yesterday that La Paz Mexican restaurant in Lincoln has a no guns sign.
I also just learned that Lincoln Memorial Funeral home on S. 14th Street in Lincoln has a no guns sign on its door.
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Haven't gone down list and I know this is Nebraska, but does anyone know status of carrying in the casinos in council bluffs?
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I don't know if it's already on here or not, but I saw yesterday that La Paz Mexican restaurant in Lincoln has a no guns sign.
It is.
http://nebraskafirearms.org/unfriendly-business-list/ (http://nebraskafirearms.org/unfriendly-business-list/)
Fly
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Regency Lodge just north of Pacific on 107th Ave in Omaha. The card is about the size of a business card. I couldn't see it when I drove past the front door.
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It would be very helpful for everyone to send pics of these poorly posted signs to your senator and every senator on the Judiciary Committee. LB340 was introduced by Senator Brasch and didn't get anywhere in the committee. They don't see the need. Pics from many locations may help them understand the need.
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And while you are at it, remind them of the consequences of missing that sign and why that should be stripped from the CHP Act.
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Regency Lodge just north of Pacific on 107th Ave in Omaha. The card is about the size of a business card. I couldn't see it when I drove past the front door.
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Oh, but Mud, they have the Security sticker, that make everything A-OK!
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It would be very helpful for everyone to send pics of these poorly posted signs to your senator and every senator on the Judiciary Committee. LB340 was introduced by Senator Brasch and didn't get anywhere in the committee. They don't see the need. Pics from many locations may help them understand the need.
Done and done.
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Posted front door
No firearms allowed
Central Nebraska Humane Society
1312 Sky Park Rd
Grand Island Ne 68801
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Probably afraid feralcatkiller.....
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Valentino's Pizza is now posted and I emailed them about it. Their response is below:
We appreciate your comment.
We have adopted the ban on weapons while on our premises because it is our current belief that the majority of our customers would become scared and upset if they glimpsed a weapon being carried, open or concealed, by a patron in our dining rooms.
Also we have discussed this matter with our insurance representatives and understand that our rates could go up if we allowed guns and weapons to be carried on our property.
-Valentino's Customer Service
CustomerService@Valentinos.com
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Wilson, thanks for sharing. I've emailed them to let them know they lost my business as a direct result of this decision. Which is too bad. I really like their pizza.
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the other day i drove to Westroads mall omaha and they have a big 2' x 3' CODE OF CONDUCT" sign in between the inside and out side doors that states "No Firearms or illegal weapons allowed" in the list of other thing that are not allowed. and i seen this sign at more then one entrance i did not drive all the way around the mall but i know it is in 2 entrances i did go in.
only way this will change is if all the stores inside make the mall management change it. but with the von maur mass shooting this will hard . you and i know only crazes and criminals obey those no gun signs /sarcasm anti gun signs and anti gun laws don't stop criminals. i will not shop there.
Oakview mall is all ready on the list ..
i don't go to crossroads so no clue there
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The belief that a "No Guns" sign makes their patrons bullet proof is a common mental illness among some business owners. Law suits for injuries resulting from these policies by ill informed owners may change their minds.
Valentino's has lost my business.
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From my email to them:
It's an unfortunate fact of life that criminals may use lethal force or the threat thereof, at any time and in any place, including Valentino's restaurants. The chance of another person's irrational reaction to firearms, and the chance of Valentino's not making as much money, are not sufficient reasons to forego my right to self-defense and my responsibility to defend my loved ones and other innocent lives. Therefore, as long as this new policy remains in place, I can no longer do any business with Valentino's.
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Had to go to the Baldwin, Hackett & Meeks building on 116th & Center in Omaha for business today. NOT CCW friendly and NOT well marked.
Here's the sign on the door.
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Here's what you can see from the parking lot.
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The 'Candy Factory' building in the Haymarket (Lincoln) is similarly marked. Owned/ managed by Speedway Properties.
It houses a bar/grill as well as many other business including my attorney's offices.
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Stopped at the Git and Split at 48th and Hwy 2 Lincoln. The front door was signed no firearms, so I got back in my truck and drove to the next gas station. (they also had a sign telling you to take off your hats, helmets and hoodies)
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Stopped at the Git and Split at 48th and Hwy 2 Lincoln. The front door was signed no firearms, so I got back in my truck and drove to the next gas station. (they also had a sign telling you to take off your hats, helmets and hoodies)
good. did you tell the store manager that you purposely drove to the next gas station because of the sign?
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Somebody should add "Broadcast House" at 43rd and O streets in Lincoln. This is the home of KLIN radio, Froggy 98, B107.3, etc.
I don't see it on the NFOA list but there's a sign right by the front door and then again right smack dab on the middle of the receptionist front desk. Kinda surprised considering KLIN is the station that broadcasts Rush, Hannity, etc.
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Somebody should add "Broadcast House" at 43rd and O streets in Lincoln. This is the home of KLIN radio, Froggy 98, B107.3, etc.
I don't see it on the NFOA list but there's a sign right by the front door and then again right smack dab on the middle of the receptionist front desk. Kinda surprised considering KLIN is the station that broadcasts Rush, Hannity, etc.
Probably a parent company rule.
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good. did you tell the store manager that you purposely drove to the next gas station because of the sign?
I tried. There was no one at the counter, and no one answered when I tried to call.
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The "Hand Me Up" thrift shop on 96th and Q in Omaha (right next door to the Applewood HyVee).
Sign says "No weapons in this building", but that business is the only one that I've seen the sign on. Of course, the only place I shop at there is the HyVee, so other's could be marked and I wouldn't know it.
Tried getting a picture, but every time I do, there's other people in the picture. I'll post back when I finally get one without others in the photo.
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Also we have discussed this matter with our insurance representatives and understand that our rates could go up if we allowed guns and weapons to be carried on our property.
Psychos off their meds deliberately choosing NO GUNS establishments and schools to shoot up is why NO GUNS establishment insurance rates are lower that those establishments which support the 2A? That's throwing away lives for PC. Like I said below, all that is waiting to happen is a law suit by someone whose loved one was killedor injured at a NO GUNS establishment that gets shot up by another psycho or terrorist.
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How about some good news for a change? The sign at the entrance to the Linden Market parking lot (132nd and Dodge) is now gone.
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How about some good news for a change? The sign at the entrance to the Linden Market parking lot (132nd and Dodge) is now gone.
Huh! I had never noticed it.
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Never saw one there and I have been in there a LOT in the past 6 months. Apparently it wasn't posted in such a way as to be obvious. Glad it is gone now.
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Never saw one there and I have been in there a LOT in the past 6 months. Apparently it wasn't posted in such a way as to be obvious. Glad it is gone now.
It was on the western entrance in front of Hy-Vee Gas, on a sign so banged-up and sun-faded you could only tell what it was if you stopped and got out for a close look. A textbook example of why uniform a signage law is needed. It had been there for at least the past couple years.
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http://www.2acheck.com/the-boycott-list/ (http://www.2acheck.com/the-boycott-list/)
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http://www.2acheck.com/the-boycott-list/ (http://www.2acheck.com/the-boycott-list/)
that page is a bit out of date it says sept 22 2014
plus the list has US Bank , BB&T bank on it all banks are no gun zones , it even has bars on it.... and all bars are no gun allowed then add to that the 50/50 on restaurants that serve booze . and all those are by law's not the biz choice
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I realize that some on the list are no brainers with Nebraska's carry laws, found list on fb and there's a few interesting things on the list I thought I would share, for instance, I've carried into Carmike theater's before, which are not posted, I guess I'll be boycotting them from now on?
CARRY ON👍
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why boycott a move theater that is not sign posted , i carry when i go see a movie at 144 maple theater as it's not posted , and i could care less how they feel till it is posted on the door where i go.
I am 100% anti shopping at a posted biz . i will get back in my truck and find another place to get what i need. if a place is not posted no point in calling them to see what there stance is because as soon as you say i seen your store on a anti-gun list but i don't see a sign on your lobby doors the manager will go get signs . falls in to the no win situation ... but if the store is posted and you explain the crooks or a crazy will not turn around when they see the same sign they are safer with out the sign. maybe they get lucky and some one in the store will be armed and help out - slim to none posted ....
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Conspicuous signage needed on the entrance? I've carried into Costco as a guest not knowing they didn't allow carry, not for sure if I would do it again , last time I was at Costco I locked up my firearm, I think it's just easier to go to Sam'a Club where my firearms are welcome.
I've carried several times in Westroads mall in Omaha and later found out they have rules posted somewhere that says no weapons ?
After doing some research I found that the State Fair does not allow guns which I locked up my firearm before entering only to find it is NOT posted, I had to go through the State Fair program to find weapons are not allowed , not for sure if I want to get caught carrying there , after locking up firearm I found out the next day many vehicles had been broken into.
The list is much longer than the one posted of anti-gun businesses that don't advertise it.
Hallmark
Sonic
Target
Starbucks
Levi Strauss
Time Warner.............just to name a few.
For example if I'm buying clothing I steer clear of Levis or if I'm purchasin a card I will not buy from Hallmark, if I get a cup of coffee I go to Dunkin Donuts, the coffees much better . If there's an alternative that's where I spend my money.
Google is a hard one to get around but when using a search engine I use Duckduckgo, they are gun friendly and don't track your searches.👍
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I've carried several times in Westroads mall in Omaha and later found out they have rules posted somewhere that says no weapons ?
the signs at westroads are in all the "mall" entrances are 2'X3' foot in size and start with the wording "CODE OF CONDUCT" and has many lines or wordage the no weapons allowed is in the bottom 1/2 of the wording.. not sure what signs you see if you enter thru a non mall door as in going thru dicks or jc penny etc.. but the mall doors do have the sign between the entrances inside & out side door sets.
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Grand Island's Conestoga mall has a no gun sign if you go in the main entrance, I carried there a few times years ago because I was unaware do to the fact I usually enter at Best Buy, now I just avoid their mall or lock up my gun.
Another odd duck is Sheels in Lincoln where you have to walk past signs in the parking lot warning of no guns allowed, I carried there once, I believe Sheels allows guns but you're breaking the law if you walk out their door?
It's kinda a quagmire if a business doesn't post yet requests you do not bring in guns, they may clarify the matter by putting up a no gun sign if someone asks for clarification?
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There is a no gun sign on the east end of the parking lot strip mall entrance off 129th and Center in Omaha. Businesses using the parking lot include Zios Pizza, Party City, Gloria Deo, and others. I didn't see any signs on individual stores..
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The sign at Pac n Save in Wayne has been gone for about a month. I asked to speak to the Manager to verify if it was removed or if the glass was changed but he was not in. I will speak to him next time through.
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Time Saver gas station and convenience store Benkelman Nebraska has signage on the door, I handed the clerk a card and told her "I would be getting gas somewhere else the next time", she said "you can't please all the people".
Sign is on front door about knee high.
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The sign at Pac n Save in Wayne has been gone for about a month. I asked to speak to the Manager to verify if it was removed or if the glass was changed but he was not in. I will speak to him next time through.
There is definitely a sign on the IGA grocery store in Wayne.
On a side note, what is wrong with Wayne America? They were one of the town's that outlawed CHPs until the Legislature slapped them. For a rural town, they hate guns.
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There is definitely a sign on the IGA grocery store in Wayne.
On a side note, what is wrong with Wayne America? They were one of the town's that outlawed CHPs until the Legislature slapped them. For a rural town, they hate guns.
Umm, potentially because it's the home of Wayne State College?? I'm guessing that the "enlightened" college professors have a hand in shaping politics in that town. (total conjecture, no proof behind it, haven't been to Wayne since late 90's.
Guess I need to look at Kearney, see if they're in the same boat....
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Surplus center in Lincoln is posted. I spoke with the counter guys and they said it is purely to get add on charges of they where ever robbed.
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Surplus center in Lincoln is posted. I spoke with the counter guys and they said it is purely to get add on charges of they where ever robbed.
So they think someone with a valid CHP will rob them? Did the signs say no CCW or no weapons?
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Surplus center in Lincoln is posted. I spoke with the counter guys and they said it is purely to get add on charges of they where ever robbed.
That's got to be one of the dumbest excuses I've ever seen. Was the guy at the counter someone who was likely to know the reason or was he maybe just some flunky who decided to make up an excuse?
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Not sure If I need to start another thread for this or not but, on the friendly business list on the main page, it states Schaefers TV and appliance have taken down their signs, I went to the parts warehouse (Old Wards warehouse on 66th st.) and it was still on the door. This wouldve been about a month ago.
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Not sure If I need to start another thread for this or not but, on the friendly business list on the main page, it states Schaefers TV and appliance have taken down their signs, I went to the parts warehouse (Old Wards warehouse on 66th st.) and it was still on the door. This wouldve been about a month ago.
I personally talked with management of the retail store and confirmed their CCW friendly status....have not been to the parts warehouse since the CHP law passed
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That's got to be one of the dumbest excuses I've ever seen. Was the guy at the counter someone who was likely to know the reason or was he maybe just some flunky who decided to make up an excuse?
Could be a excuse I know both the counter worker and the owning family. The family is a little different and very well could use this logic.
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Google is a hard one to get around but when using a search engine I use Duckduckgo, they are gun friendly and don't track your searches.
DuckDuckGo is an awesome search engine. It's only drawback is that it allows for time searches based on "Anytime", "Past day" and "Past week" and "Past Month", but no "Past Year". And, no custom date range. Regardless, they do not track nor keep logs of IP addresses and the searches those IP addresses do. Their results are MUCH better than Google's because unlike Google you don't have to wade through half a page of placed ads before you get to the real search results. And, DuckDuckGo does not use a PC filter.
Chromium (Google's browser) on the other hand, not only tracks you, but it filters and ranks results based on PC criteria. Also, it captures your login names and passwords to EVERY site you visit and log into. I recently closed my Google/YouTube account but before I did I went to "passwords.google.com" to see what they had saved about me. I was stunned to see that they also included the password to my wifi not only as a user but also the wifi router admin name and login password!
Google had names and passwords going back ten years, to when I first started using Google and got a gmail account. I went to each and every URL on their list and either deleted my account on those sites or changed the password (while running FireFox), which I have set to "No Tracking". I also don't allow cookies to be saved without my approval for each one. Especially 3rd Party cookies! There are some sites that won't let you access their web pages unless you allow cookies. You ca either allow it and then delete it when you leave the site, or do what I do when I encounter a 'No Guns" sign on a business door, go to the competition.
The latest version of the onion browser, Tor, based on FF but stripped of plugins, add ons and extensions, runs very fast and is very stable. You can click a button while running it and it will change your identity (IP address, user agent and router paths) on the fly. If you run it using firejail or inside a chroot environment you can forget about cookies because when you close the browser the entire environment and all files disappears.
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Chromium (Google's browser) on the other hand, not only tracks you, but it filters and ranks results based on PC criteria. Also, it captures your login names and passwords to EVERY site you visit and log into. I recently closed my Google/YouTube account but before I did I went to "passwords.google.com" to see what they had saved about me. I was stunned to see that they also included the password to my wifi not only as a user but also the wifi router admin name and login password!
I wonder if you hadn't inadvertently told Chrome to record that information at some point. I checked and there is nothing recorded for me even though I use Chrome almost exclusively. I have several applications that are tied into Google, such as Drive, that are stored, but nothing that is not a directly related Google app.
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I don't know if it was ever listed, but the office building located at 600 N Cotner Blvd in Lincoln has been posted for at least the last couple of years. Recently, they cleaned up the front doors and removed old stickers. This included removing the "No Weapons" sign on the south entrance facing Gateway Mall. It has been removed for a few weeks now, so hopefully they don't bother re-signing.
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I wonder if you hadn't inadvertently told Chrome to record that information at some point. I checked and there is nothing recorded for me even though I use Chrome almost exclusively. I have several applications that are tied into Google, such as Drive, that are stored, but nothing that is not a directly related Google app.
Nope. I would NEVER tell any browser to remember my wifi and wifi admin login info.
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While at lunch today I noted that the Hardee's at 12424 L St in Omaha is now posted banning firearms. They have a small 2" x 2" sign on all of the doors.
John K
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FYI, Schaefers appliances parts supply on 66th St. is still posted as of a week ago.
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There is definitely a sign on the IGA grocery store in Wayne.
On a side note, what is wrong with Wayne America? They were one of the town's that outlawed CHPs until the Legislature slapped them. For a rural town, they hate guns.
Yes, the IGA grocery store that is posted is Quality Foods.
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The illogical thought processes that drive these people are beyond my tiny little brain's ability to comprehend. Grocery stores on Saturday afternoon have more cash and checks on hand than any 12 banks combined and a sign on the door stating we have have an anti weapon policy. They might as well hang a sign next to the prohibited weapons sign saying "$100000 free right here right now and no one to stop you."
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Wife was talking about joining Costco, I am not sure if they are posted or not, however this is the response I got when I asked about concealed carry.
John K
Dear John,
Thank you for contacting Costco.
Costco Wholesale is a membership-only warehouse club. It is not open to the general public. It restricts membership to a limited group of qualified individuals who agree to membership conditions. We have the right, and the obligation to our members, to enact and enforce membership rules. The Member Service Employees at the exit doors are obliged to follow these rules. By obtaining a Costco membership card, our members agree to comply with the Membership Rules and the Privileges and Conditions of membership.
Costco does not believe that it is necessary for firearms to be brought into its warehouse stores, except in the case of authorized law enforcement officers. For the protection of all our members and employees, we feel this is a reasonable and prudent precaution to ensure a pleasant shopping experience and safe workplace. Our policy is meant to protect our members and employees in all warehouses around the world. This is not a new policy and we do not customize the policy for each individual city/county/state/country where we do business.
Our primary goal at Costco Wholesale is to keep our members happy. If you believe that our policy restricting members from bringing firearms into our warehouse stores is either unfair or excessively burdensome, or you cannot agree to abide by this policy, or you are dissatisfied for any other reason, Costco will promptly refund your annual membership fee in full.
Thank you,
Mari P
Member Service Center
Costco Wholesale Corporation
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Wife was talking about joining Costco, I am not sure if they are posted or not, however this is the response I got when I asked about concealed carry.
John K
Dear John,
Thank you for contacting Costco.
Costco Wholesale is a membership-only warehouse club. It is not open to the general public. It restricts membership to a limited group of qualified individuals who agree to membership conditions. We have the right, and the obligation to our members, to enact and enforce membership rules. The Member Service Employees at the exit doors are obliged to follow these rules. By obtaining a Costco membership card, our members agree to comply with the Membership Rules and the Privileges and Conditions of membership.
Costco does not believe that it is necessary for firearms to be brought into its warehouse stores, except in the case of authorized law enforcement officers. For the protection of all our members and employees, we feel this is a reasonable and prudent precaution to ensure a pleasant shopping experience and safe workplace. Our policy is meant to protect our members and employees in all warehouses around the world. This is not a new policy and we do not customize the policy for each individual city/county/state/country where we do business.
Our primary goal at Costco Wholesale is to keep our members happy. If you believe that our policy restricting members from bringing firearms into our warehouse stores is either unfair or excessively burdensome, or you cannot agree to abide by this policy, or you are dissatisfied for any other reason, Costco will promptly refund your annual membership fee in full.
Thank you,
Mari P
Member Service Center
Costco Wholesale Corporation
Guess Mari told John how it is.
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Hmmm, if I read that right I was just told that if I didn't like their rules that state somewhere, although I have no idea where, that I cannot carry into their stores I can stuff my opinion right up my where ever.
BTW, that is actually the EXACT same thing that is posted on the Costco website, word for word.
https://customerservice.costco.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/709/kw/memberships%20rules
and here is the list of General Policies from their website )http://www.costco.com/member-privileges-conditions.html):
General Policies - Shirts and shoes are required.
- Members are welcome to bring their children and up to two guests into the warehouse, however, only Costco members may purchase items.
- Parents are responsible for their children and should not leave them unattended.
- Members are responsible for their guests and other family members.
- Costco reserves the right to inspect any container, backpack, briefcase, etc., upon entering or leaving the warehouse.
- To ensure that all members are correctly charged for the merchandise purchased, all receipts and merchandise will be inspected as you leave the warehouse.
- Liquor and tobacco sales cannot be made to minors.
- Costco policy prohibits firearms to be brought into the warehouse, except in the case of authorized law enforcement officers.
- Animals are not permitted in Costco warehouses unless admission is required by applicable law.
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With having Sams in North and South Lincoln guess I have no reason to darken their door. ;D
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Hmmm, if I read that right I was just told that if I didn't like their rules that state somewhere, although I have no idea where, that I cannot carry into their stores I can stuff my opinion right up my where ever.
BTW, that is actually the EXACT same thing that is posted on the Costco website, word for word.
https://customerservice.costco.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/709/kw/memberships%20rules
and here is the list of General Policies from their website )http://www.costco.com/member-privileges-conditions.html):
FYI, the Costco off the Dodge expressway is NOT posted so I follow the letter of Nebraska state law, regardless of their corporate "policy."
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I am not sure how well the excuse that they didn't bother to post a sign banning firearms will work when the membership agreement specifically states that firearms are not to be brought onto their premises. I would think that having been notified in writing that it was prohibited would cause issues if it ever came up, but that is a question for lawyers to answer.
The question I have is regardless of if the door is posted or not, why would anyone want to do any more business there necessary with a corporation that dose not believe in the 2nd amendment and is anti gun. That is just providing them with profits that they can then turn around and use to attempt to erode our rights further.
John K
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FYI, the Costco off the Dodge expressway is NOT posted so I follow the letter of Nebraska state law, regardless of their corporate "policy."
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Agreed, if it's not posted as per Ne. State statute I normally do like they say "Always carry, never tell" but since we have this clearinghouse for info here, believe I'll go elsewhere. :P
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BTW, Schafers Parts Warehouse on 66th St. South of Vine St. (Former Montgomery Wards Warehouse) is still posted
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Agreed, if it's not posted as per Ne. State statute I normally do like they say "Always carry, never tell" but since we have this clearinghouse for info here, believe I'll go elsewhere. :P
Actually, this is the first I've heard of Costco's policy so I'll keep that in mind. I suspect there are additional local storefronts of national corporations with the same policies but my take is if they don't post per state law I'm within my rights to carry there, regardless of what they might say elsewhere. Simply put, I'm not going to check the website of every business I MIGHT do business with to see what their carry policies might be; the law seems very specific on the obligation and method required off businesses to notify customers of carry policy.
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Just looked at the list. The Valentinos nearest me used to be on the list of unfriendly I don't see it there now but Valentinos at Meadow Lane still has a No weapons sign, with image of a pistol and a knife in a circle with a red line over it on the door.
I work at Office Depot at South Pointe Pavillions. The maul is on the list of unfriendlies but I've never seen a sign. Maybe I should look around more. I don't really shop in the maul. Scheels in the maul sells guns. I've been in there several times. They have a sign about not bringing in loaded guns when trying to get a holster.
As an employee of Office Depot I'm not allowed to carry but in nine years no one as ever told me customers couldn't. Most of that I was not at South Pointe. My old store is now an empty building. Only people I've actually seen open carry into the store are A) the security guard who picks up the cash and B) uniformed police officers. Whether any customers conceal carry I have no idea.
I have one coworker I know I can chat with about guns,he's former army. But I do so only when the department manager isn't around. She's afraid of gun talk. I told her she has nothing to be afraid of from me. She's still afraid. So I talk to my coworker when she has the day off, or is at lunch.
On, thoush some of the staff maybe nervous around strange dogs, we don't object to well controlled dogs in the store. And I personally prefer them to children. Dogs sit and don't move when told to. They dont run around knocking products off of shelves/hooks. Children don't mind their parents, assuming their parents actually try to control them. A sad commentary on our culture.
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StuartJ.. The south point weapons ban is line 12 or 14 ish on the white sign at most walkway entrances. I should have a few pics floating around the forums somewhere. It is questionable if this is "conspicuous" signage and thus does it hold the force of law?
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Oh. Well I don't really walk around South Point much, just from my car to Office Depot and from Office Depot to my car with the occasional stop at Trader Joe's which is in the same section. And for awhile I was stopping by Scheels once a week, without paying attention to South Pointe's white signs apparently.
So isn't buying a gun at Scheels and carrying it out of the store technically against South Pointe's rules? I've never actually bought a gun there, just looked and held a couple I knew were out of my price range, just day dreaming. They had a Kimber 1911 I thought looked great. Too expensive of course even pre-owned. But somebody bought it.
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A personal friend who is a NE county sheriff, wanted to attend the wrestling thing with wife and son in tow today at Century link but was refused entrance with his firearm. Was told policy allows no armed police on site that are not on official business or working contract security for the even, he spent his day in the motel.
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I'm at CenturyLink for volleyball. None of the entrances I've seen are posted. But it's on their website.
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A personal friend who is a NE county sheriff, wanted to attend the wrestling thing with wife and son in tow today at Century link but was refused entrance with his firearm. Was told policy allows no armed police on site that are not on official business or working contract security for the even, he spent his day in the motel.
Tell him welcome to Omaha, I guess if you aren't OPD you can't be trusted!!
Greg58
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Oh. Well I don't really walk around South Point much, just from my car to Office Depot and from Office Depot to my car with the occasional stop at Trader Joe's which is in the same section. And for awhile I was stopping by Scheels once a week, without paying attention to South Pointe's white signs apparently.
So isn't buying a gun at Scheels and carrying it out of the store technically against South Pointe's rules? I've never actually bought a gun there, just looked and held a couple I knew were out of my price range, just day dreaming. They had a Kimber 1911 I thought looked great. Too expensive of course even pre-owned. But somebody bought it.
You should stop shopping at Office Depot now as well. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/laura-ingraham-advertisers-drop-show-she-goes-on-vacation/
Except maybe Johnson and Johnson I don't believe I give any money to any of those listed and pulling their advertisement and I won't start. I'm still working on moving my banking away from FNB. We need a forum admin to create a sticky list that gets updated with all the PRO and ANTI gun companies.
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I work at Office Depot.
They had ads to pull? I didn't know such ads existed. Office Depot is terrible at promoting itself.
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I noticed today a sign in a parking garage at "AKSARBEN VILLAGE".
The entire area is private property. including streets and is "NO FIREARMS ALLOWED"
with or without a permit.
if that is true shouldn't it be posted at every entrance to the area? where exactly does
Aksarben Village area begin and end. and shouldn't they post proper no Guns signs?
(dangerous gun free zone)
sorry i did take a picture of the sign but it's on my work phone and i don't have it right now.
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I recently visited the New York Life office in downtown Lincoln (1221 N Street), the entire building is posted on the entrance door as 'No Guns'. Maybe because one of the floors houses the NE Dept. of Justice office? Either that, or it's just because of the building owners decision. Not sure what policy NYL themselves have on the matter.
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Add Malara's Restaraunt in Omaha (12th and Pierce) to the list of posted businesses. I actually thought about pulling my shirt behind my holster because the sign specifically says "No concealed weapons". That'll learn 'em.
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Add Malara's Restaraunt in Omaha (12th and Pierce) to the list of posted businesses. I actually thought about pulling my shirt behind my holster because the sign specifically says "No concealed weapons". That'll learn 'em.
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Add Malara's Restaraunt in Omaha (12th and Pierce) to the list of posted businesses. I actually thought about pulling my shirt behind my holster because the sign specifically says "No concealed weapons". That'll learn 'em.
I double dog dare ya. :laugh: