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Title: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: FarmerRick on January 23, 2014, 10:32:22 PM
http://journalstar.com/news/state-and-regional/exeter-gun-dealers-face-felony-tax-evasion-charges/article_7ee9aa88-f2e1-5d54-aa5e-85f5c6d49d04.html (http://journalstar.com/news/state-and-regional/exeter-gun-dealers-face-felony-tax-evasion-charges/article_7ee9aa88-f2e1-5d54-aa5e-85f5c6d49d04.html)

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A husband and wife who own a gun shop in Exeter face state felony charges for allegedly failing to pay sales tax, evading income tax and filing fraudulent income tax returns.

The Nebraska Department of Revenue says Rob and Hope Androyna took in $3.78 million from their business, Exeter Arms, from 2009 to 2012. That included nearly $200,000 in local and state sales taxes, but they failed to turn that money over to the state, Revenue Inspector Marcus Ford said in an affidavit written in support of warrants issued for the couple's Jan. 16 arrest.

The affidavit says the couple also failed to report profit, income or wages from the business until they filed their 2012 income tax return in October 2013, when they were under investigation by the Revenue Department.

Also, the document says, Rob Androyna got unemployment payments in 2010 and 2011, a time period during which the Revenue Department estimates the couple would have had income of $445,215 and $398,363, respectively, from the business.

The department estimates the Androynas owe the state $281,238 for back sales taxes, with penalties, and $198,571 for income taxes, with penalties.



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Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: AWick on January 23, 2014, 10:45:02 PM
My God! If you're making $500,000/yr why oh why would you do something stupid like not pay your dang taxes!
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Gary on January 23, 2014, 11:08:39 PM
Felons once convicted, are restricted from being around guns.  I see this pair as looking for a new line of work, if the news folks have a legit story.   Lets hope all blows over, and all is OK. 

Their web site lists them as doing concealed carry classes. I do not see a Rob or Hope listed as instructors for NSP.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: barmandr on January 24, 2014, 02:07:36 AM
I hope they rot.  Rob is a thief who refuses to follow through on his word...at least with me.  I've posted my experience on several review sites and he still refuses to return my property.  Karma is alive and well.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: RobertH on January 24, 2014, 06:29:30 AM
wow... if they go under, i hope i can get some deals on NFA stuff.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: shooter on January 24, 2014, 09:27:46 AM
will the feds seize all the stuff he has?
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: landon410 on January 24, 2014, 09:30:36 AM
if he was only a liberal.... he'd get a cabinet appointment for this, tax evasion seems to be a prereq anymore these days
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Jerry Lundegard on January 24, 2014, 09:48:44 AM
I have heard good and bad about these folks.   I seem to recall some pretty negative flyers posted about them by other vendors at a recent Lincoln gun show. Wonder if they will still have tables this weekend.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: FarmerRick on January 24, 2014, 09:58:53 AM
I have heard good and bad about these folks.   I seem to recall some pretty negative flyers posted about them by other vendors at a recent Lincoln gun show. Wonder if they will still have tables this weekend.

Everything is pretty much deleted from their Facebook page, but this was posted yesterday morning:

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Exeter Arms


FYI we will not be attending this weekends Lincoln gun show for no other reason than lack of available man power. The store will be open as usual on Saturday with great deals and great inventory. It's worth the drive to Exeter Arms for selection & value!
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: jestermx6 on January 24, 2014, 12:58:41 PM
I have heard good and bad about these folks.   I seem to recall some pretty negative flyers posted about them by other vendors at a recent Lincoln gun show.

Yep. Monica and i Noted quite a few tables had negative flyers on them. And then the exeter arms table had flyers explaining why everyone else had negative flyers lol
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: newfalguy101 on January 24, 2014, 04:50:37 PM
Somehow, this doesn't really surprise me a whole lot....
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Chris C on January 24, 2014, 05:29:45 PM
I see this pair as looking for a new line of work, if the news folks have a legit story.   Lets hope all blows over, and all is OK.

Do you not know anything about the raid last Friday with undercover cars and guys with tac vest and rifles going through the place?  Or what kind of person Rob is or how he treats his customers?  Not to mention holding paperwork back for months or saying the "ATF lost it".  You do know he is a hitman and has a German passport right?
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Gary on January 24, 2014, 07:19:45 PM
I don't know the guy, never done business with him.  Seen his tables at a gun show, never talked to him, or would know him to see him, until this story broke with his photograph.

If there is a problem, this laundry session should clean things up a bit.  I am assuming he has family and children.  I feel bad for them, because something like this, effects more than the person directly involved.  I imagine this will also hurt the town of Exeter, as not much else goes on there.

I did some work for the phone company in that area many years ago, and to describe that area as a wide spot in the road, would be nearly an over statement.  Not much in the way of commerce beyond Agra.

Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Chris C on January 24, 2014, 07:51:48 PM
I don't know the guy, never done business with him.  Seen his tables at a gun show, never talked to him, or would know him to see him, until this story broke with his photograph.

You summed up your experience with Rob right there. 

You are totally clueless here.  Do you have any idea how many people in the state of Nebraska he has screwed out of money?  There is at least one person on this board who is out money for a suppressor who I would guess worked damn hard for that money.  Do you have any clue how many times he’s made people waste their time hassling him to get their money back  whether it be in court of out of court?  These gun shows you claim to have attended have you by chance noticed the complaints about this business at the door? 

If you want to feel sorry for someone it ought to be those in the state who he's screwed over not him or his wife who made the bed they will sleep in.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: bkent on January 24, 2014, 07:58:22 PM
If there were so many vendors against him, why was he allowed in the gun show in the first place?  Probably a dumb question but I know nothing about the business end of a gun show.

Kent
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Gary on January 24, 2014, 08:17:05 PM
I was not defending him, I was defending Jurisprudence.   If someone owes you money, go after them.

Our fair city once had a convenience store operator, that did not like paying bills.  He owed me $1,600.  He looked me in the face, and told me to get an attorney, and that would cost me more than $1,600.  He chuckled, and walked off.

I do not understand the mind set of people who do not wish to do square dealings.  I have encountered that, but it is not comfortable.   
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Chris C on January 24, 2014, 08:22:19 PM
If there were so many vendors against him, why was he allowed in the gun show in the first place?  Probably a dumb question but I know nothing about the business end of a gun show.

Kent

I believe they were customer complaints.  Probably the same reason the ATF wouldn't step in because as the Nebraska office the told me it's a civil mater and there is nothing they can do. 
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: bkoenig on January 24, 2014, 08:39:49 PM
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Also, the document says, Rob Androyna got unemployment payments in 2010 and 2011, a time period during which the Revenue Department estimates the couple would have had income of $445,215 and $398,363, respectively, from the business.

As I posted on another board, if this is true that says everything I need to know about him.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: DaveB on January 24, 2014, 10:10:06 PM
I have never done any business with Exeter Arms, maybe it's because all the dealers that put out the little pieces of paper telling about the 7 or so complaints against them, or I just didn't care for their prices. I also would never spend a dime with a dealer that had those pieces of paper on their tables. If a dealer isn't good enough to stand on their own merit and have to stoop to such levels to make themselves look good, they are not for me.

Nebraska gun shows have pretty much lost my attendance anyway since the prices are just ridiculous, I don't see it's worth the admission to go in and just laugh at the prices and go home empty handed.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: UPCrawfish on January 24, 2014, 11:00:14 PM
Link to Exeter Arms BBB Rating.....

http://www.bbb.org/nebraska/business-reviews/gun-sights-scopes-and-mounts/exeter-arms-in-exeter-ne-300034564#reasonrating (http://www.bbb.org/nebraska/business-reviews/gun-sights-scopes-and-mounts/exeter-arms-in-exeter-ne-300034564#reasonrating)
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: barmandr on January 24, 2014, 11:35:38 PM
One of the unanswered complaints is from me...Man, I love when karma bites the deserving square in the ass.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Gary on January 25, 2014, 01:42:14 AM
Link to Exeter Arms BBB Rating.....

http://www.bbb.org/nebraska/business-reviews/gun-sights-scopes-and-mounts/exeter-arms-in-exeter-ne-300034564#reasonrating (http://www.bbb.org/nebraska/business-reviews/gun-sights-scopes-and-mounts/exeter-arms-in-exeter-ne-300034564#reasonrating)

YIKES!    Rated F (A+ to F)

Says it knows of no governmental action against them.  I guess the BBB can add that to the list. 

I constantly stress people seeking a business for service work, and also to a lessor degree, retail, always check the BBB for a reference.    Once you turn loose of the cash, the business is capable of doing whatever they want to.  If they have no handshake pride in their word, a person really has no grand way of recouping losses.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: 44Dave on January 26, 2014, 06:47:34 AM
He only needs to stay open one more month for my stamp to come back...!!!!
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: newfalguy101 on January 26, 2014, 10:19:39 PM
If there were so many vendors against him, why was he allowed in the gun show in the first place?  Probably a dumb question but I know nothing about the business end of a gun show.

Kent

That is entirely up to the show promoter, you know, the guys who get paid to ensure tables are sold out and people come through the door. 


On another note, the BBB hasn't ever even heard of my business, guess that's a good thing.....
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Jerry Lundegard on January 27, 2014, 01:35:34 PM
Appears there website is gone now. Best of luck to anyone waiting on product. I hope you don't get shafted.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: bkoenig on January 27, 2014, 02:32:45 PM
What does the ATF do on a pending stamp if the transferring dealer goes out of business?
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: OnTheFly on January 27, 2014, 03:11:17 PM
Besides the negative comments on this forum, I spoke to a few good people whose opinion I also trust, had not a single good then to say about these people. 

I hope anyone involved in a transaction with Exeter Arms will get their money back or the services/products delivered...but I am skeptical.

Fly
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Gary on January 27, 2014, 03:56:22 PM
Their web site is gone, their facebook site is gone, their phone rings to a fax machine.  I called them to see if they had any last day's deals.    No answer. 

Very sorry for those out money because of a business run unethically.

I remember the Commonwealth debacle.   (Shows my age)   Seems like Nebraska, The Good Life, is not always true to their slogan. 

Anyone that lost money from this guy, can have a CHP class for free.   First time CHP, or follow-up advanced class. 

If you paid for a CHP class they had listed on their site, I will honor that commitment at my class, no charge.    If you had a gun or parts on order, I will give you a free CHP class.  Just send me a PM, or text my cell phone at 402-217-5000
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Jerry Lundegard on January 27, 2014, 09:59:02 PM
Gary-
That's a very classy gesture on your part. If at some point the wife gets a permit you just earned our business.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Chris C on January 27, 2014, 10:02:27 PM
The fax machine is part of their phone games they play. When I was trying to get my money back they would see my number on the caller ID and send it to the fax or pick up the phone after 20 sec or so hang up. After a LEO friend called from work and got right through he suggested I do *67 and Hope answered right away. Great way to run a business.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: jestermx6 on January 28, 2014, 08:19:12 AM

Anyone that lost money from this guy, can have a CHP class for free.   First time CHP, or follow-up advanced class. 

If you paid for a CHP class they had listed on their site, I will honor that commitment at my class, no charge.    If you had a gun or parts on order, I will give you a free CHP class.  Just send me a PM, or text my cell phone at 402-217-5000


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Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: RLMoeller on January 28, 2014, 08:25:53 AM
What does the ATF do on a pending stamp if the transferring dealer goes out of business?
The Omaha ATF office has been receiving numerous calls with this same question.  They have attempted to get with the NFA branch to get answers.  With the weather events around West Virginia it sounds like no one has been around, getting voice mail and out of office emails.

They assured me they would be getting an answer.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: metaldoc on January 28, 2014, 09:01:31 AM
This article with a little more info was in the York News Times this morning...

Entire article can be read here...    Exeter Arms News Times Article (http://www.yorknewstimes.com/news/exeter-arms-owners-charged-with-felonies/article_ab2e17c8-87de-11e3-aafb-001a4bcf887a.html)

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EXETER – Rob and Hope Androyna, the owners of Exeter Arms, have each been charged with five felonies related to tax evasion and filing fraudulent income tax returns.

The case, which is being prosecuted by George Welch of the Nebraska Attorney General’s office, has been filed in the Lancaster County Court.

According to media outlets, including the Associated Press, it is alleged the Androynas did not pay sales tax, evaded paying income tax and filed fraudulent income tax returns.

The two were arrested on Jan. 16 and have since made bond.....

.....Court documents also allege the Androynas failed to report profit, income or wages from the business. Investigators say they did file a 2012 income tax return on October, 2013 – at that time, they were already under investigation by the Nebraska Department of Revenue.....


......The business was featured in a York News-Times story in 2012 – at that time, the couple had already been in business six years. In the YNT interview, Hope Androyna told the newspaper they were selling between 2,000 and 3,000 pounds of ammunition every week.

The couple also said they were selling weapons to many private customers, as well as to sheriff’s departments, individual law enforcement officers, the Nebraska State Patrol and other law enforcement agencies in Nebraska and Iowa.

Each are charged with five Class 4 felonies – three counts of failure to pay sales tax, one count of evading income tax and one count of filing a fraudulent tax return.

If convicted, each could be facing a possible maximum sentence of 20 years in prison.

The case has yet to be bound over to the Lancaster County District Court.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: 66bigblock on January 28, 2014, 10:41:53 AM

This article with a little more info was in the York News Times this morning...



Funny, my dyslexia read this line and saw "more info in the New York Times".  And Im thinking, geez, thats reaching out pretty far for an anti-gun story! 


66bigblock
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Lmbass14 on January 28, 2014, 01:09:37 PM

Funny, my dyslexia read this line and saw "more info in the New York Times".  And Im thinking, geez, thats reaching out pretty far for an anti-gun story! 


66bigblock

+1.  Thought it said New York Times also.  UGH.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Gary on January 28, 2014, 03:16:23 PM
This article with a little more info was in the York News Times this morning...

Entire article can be read here...    Exeter Arms News Times Article (http://www.yorknewstimes.com/news/exeter-arms-owners-charged-with-felonies/article_ab2e17c8-87de-11e3-aafb-001a4bcf887a.html)


Comment after article:

"I wonder if the State knows about the $30,000 Rob won on a scratch ticket in Pella Iowa 2010?"

They do now.  lol

Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: bkoenig on January 28, 2014, 03:21:18 PM
I didn't make it to the Lincoln gunshow this weekend, but my boss said all the dealers that used to have warnings about Exeter now had copies of the newspaper article.  :D
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: on the fritz on January 28, 2014, 04:37:07 PM
I didn't make it to the Lincoln gunshow this weekend, but my boss said all the dealers that used to have warnings about Exeter now had copies of the newspaper article.  :D

Saw that too.  LOL
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: newfalguy101 on January 28, 2014, 05:50:17 PM
I admit to be completely baffled as to why, when pulling in upwards of a million bucks a year, WHY wouldn't you pay the sales tax you COLLECTED............guess I simply value my freedom ( from jail.... ) too much to do anything as foolish as that
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: unfy on January 28, 2014, 06:17:41 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/MIj6o.gif)

Totally beat me to it, was gonna dig up this exact GIF and post it too :D
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: bkoenig on January 28, 2014, 06:50:10 PM
Saw that too.  LOL
I admit to be completely baffled as to why, when pulling in upwards of a million bucks a year, WHY wouldn't you pay the sales tax you COLLECTED............guess I simply value my freedom ( from jail.... ) too much to do anything as foolish as that

I was thinking the same thing.  I wonder if their personal finances were a shambles despite the high revenue (pure speculation).  That often leads business owners/managers to make some really stupid, desperate decisions.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Gary on January 28, 2014, 09:22:00 PM
As serious as this is, maybe a bit of levity?



(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3665/12199390425_868fdc8af7_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Randy on January 28, 2014, 09:28:58 PM
Whatever the problem is, it is reflecting a negative on all firearm enthusiasts.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: bwarner on January 28, 2014, 11:33:00 PM
If you have ever done business with him , he's a walking, talking rectum. I never had a problem with Hope. Oh well if convicted he can kiss his FFL and Class 3 licenses goodbye. Making that kind of money. You can't fix stupid.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Lmbass14 on January 29, 2014, 09:32:57 AM
Wonder what's going to happen to all their inventory?  Sell to the public, goes back to the distributor, held for exhibit for the trail?  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: bkoenig on January 29, 2014, 09:54:12 AM
Wonder what's going to happen to all their inventory?  Sell to the public, goes back to the distributor, held for exhibit for the trail?  Any thoughts?

It would really suck if all their Pre-86 transferrable NFA items got seized and ultimately destroyed.  That stuff is irreplaceable.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: newfalguy101 on January 29, 2014, 05:54:39 PM
Seems like they should auction it off to recoup some of the tax money as well as the cost of the investigation/prosecution...........doubt the guns will be auctioned off though


Assuming they are found guilty......
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: RedDot on January 29, 2014, 07:11:27 PM
Seems like they should auction it off to recoup some of the tax money as well as the cost of the investigation/prosecution...........doubt the guns will be auctioned off though


Assuming they are found guilty......
Never happen

The Feds are involved... they never release guns to folks who aren't cartel thugs or terrorists...errr I mean Arab Spring freedom fighters ::)
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: OnTheFly on January 29, 2014, 10:51:03 PM
I spoke with a guy last night that had already paid for a suppressor. Said it was sitting in Exeter Arms safe. 

Fly
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Gary on January 29, 2014, 11:49:25 PM
I was working at an Omaha telephone company that was raided in 1990.  They had a telephone outbound department that was selling Irish sweepstakes tickets.  I guess that is not legal to do in Nebraska.  I was a department director in another department.

Every 3 letter agency in the nation, hit every door to our rather large complex, simultaneously.  It was like WWIII, and this was for selling lottery tickets at a telephone company.

I bet the folks at Exeter Arms, and the whole city of Exeter will not soon forget a raid that involves an establishment selling automatic firearms, and withholding income taxes.

I would like to see a video of that event. 
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: bullit on January 30, 2014, 08:46:49 AM
Unless I missed something, this appears (for now) entirely a STATE matter.  The STATE is who initiated the arrest and subsequent prosecution.  The 3 Letter FED agencies have all declined to comment, and I've read nothing in the complaint indicating them as a plaintiff.  Please correct me if I am wrong ....and yes I know how the law works and if they are convicted of a crime (i.e. felony) and the guns are "regulated" by the BATFE, etc, etc.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: CitizenClark on January 30, 2014, 10:02:05 AM
Unless I missed something, this appears (for now) entirely a STATE matter.  The STATE is who initiated the arrest and subsequent prosecution.  The 3 Letter FED agencies have all declined to comment, and I've read nothing in the complaint indicating them as a plaintiff.  Please correct me if I am wrong ....and yes I know how the law works and if they are convicted of a crime (i.e. felony) and the guns are "regulated" by the BATFE, etc, etc.

This is my understanding as well.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Chris C on January 30, 2014, 06:07:58 PM
Unless I missed something, this appears (for now) entirely a STATE matter.  The STATE is who initiated the arrest and subsequent prosecution.

Hopefully they don't screw it up.  When the Fed's roll up usually there is no wiggle room.  State....meh anything's possible. 
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: mike_p on February 01, 2014, 03:08:23 PM
Has anyone gotten solid information from the BATFE on what will happen to those of us with items awaiting aproval on class 3 with Exeter Arms if Rob and Hope get convicted?
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Husker_Fan on February 01, 2014, 04:07:40 PM
I'd be surprised if they cheated that much on their state taxes and were perfectly honest with the the federal taxes. I'm betting the IRS and ATF are looking through their books with a microscope.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Toster on February 05, 2014, 11:27:35 AM
Was out past there on Monday, and the shop was locked up tight.  Guns still on the wall just like you would see when they were open for business.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Gary on February 05, 2014, 04:10:18 PM
Was out past there on Monday, and the shop was locked up tight.  Guns still on the wall just like you would see when they were open for business.

Did you happen to get gas, or do business at another place in town?  I ask, because I wonder what the local buzz about the place is?    Would be interesting to ask a local, what is up with Exeter Arms?
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Chris C on February 05, 2014, 07:38:28 PM
According to the Seward paper their next court date is Feb 7th so I'd watch the Seward paper, York paper, or Lincoln Journal Star for info if no one has any first hand knowledge. 
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: barmandr on February 08, 2014, 03:43:06 PM
Any updates on the trial?
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: 66bigblock on February 18, 2014, 04:22:41 PM
"Bullet Bunker" Bullet Trap for sale on Lincoln craigslist.

http://lincoln.craigslist.org/spo/4338206344.html (http://lincoln.craigslist.org/spo/4338206344.html)


This is the bullet bunker bullet trap you can shoot .22 all the way to .338. It comes with 2 extra replacement faces. Each one is good for about 5000 rounds. Call me with any questions at 402-366-1596


Familiar phone number...


66bigblock
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Opusnbill7 on February 18, 2014, 09:42:48 PM
Pretty sure that's their "shop" area, but I was only back there once.  Interesting...I wonder if they're *supposed* to be liquidating assets?
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Opusnbill7 on February 18, 2014, 10:11:55 PM
Other interesting rumors from arfcom:
"In other news, a guy I know there said there were 3 white cargo vans parked in from of the shop last week. It is assumed that they were removing his inventory. Hopefully those awesome Facogs don't get lost in the system."

Wild.  What a mess.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Lmbass14 on March 05, 2014, 09:32:21 AM
Any updates?

Did a google and ran across the thread that was on AR15.com.  That was interesting.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_44/549055_Hearing_that_Exeter_Arms_was_raided_yesterday_1_17____.html (http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_44/549055_Hearing_that_Exeter_Arms_was_raided_yesterday_1_17____.html)
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: RobertH on March 05, 2014, 09:50:05 AM
FYI - many of those posters are NFOA'ers
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: RLMoeller on March 05, 2014, 09:54:33 AM
I have heard that he is closed up, inventory sold off, and that pending items are being transferred by him as they get approved by the ATF. 
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: metaldoc on March 05, 2014, 02:13:11 PM
Looks like arraignment is today...

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Robert and Hope Androyna, owners of Exeter Arms in Exeter have both entered a plea of not guilty in Lancaster County District Court as of Feb. 7, according court documents.

The couple is facing five felony charges, each for allegedly failing to pay income tax, evading income tax and filing fraudulent Nebraska income tax returns, according to Lancaster County Court documents that were filed Jan. 16.

According to court documents, the couple has waived their rights to a preliminary hearing. They have also waived their right to physically appear for their arraignment in district court which is scheduled for March 5 at 9 a.m.

More at Seward County Independent (http://www.sewardindependent.com/friend/news/article_2594f9f4-9e6a-11e3-9981-0017a43b2370.html)
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: sh68137 on March 06, 2014, 04:39:27 PM
I have a coworker that just picked up his suppressor on Sunday Feb 23rd from Exeter. He got his NFA Stamp and made arrangements for the pickup and no problems.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: barmandr on April 24, 2014, 02:20:30 AM
Anyone know of any updates to this?
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: CitizenClark on April 24, 2014, 10:25:27 AM
Anyone know of any updates to this?

Rob and Hope are each charged with three counts of sales tax evasion, one count of income tax evasion, and one count of filing a false income tax return. Each of these is a Class IV felony carrying a maximum of five years imprisonment and/or $10,000 in fines.

Discovery was granted on February 25, and the last court date was a docket call on March 13, at which time both cases were scheduled for pretrial conference on July 24. The court also set a trial date of August 11.

Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: FarmerRick on April 24, 2014, 12:13:50 PM
Anyone know of any updates to this?

Also here: http://nebraskafirearms.org/forum/index.php/topic,11470.0.html (http://nebraskafirearms.org/forum/index.php/topic,11470.0.html)
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: CitizenClark on August 18, 2014, 08:17:03 PM
Hope and Rob appeared via counsel on July 24, the scheduled day for the pretrial conference. Parties agreed they were not ready to proceed, and Rob and Hope waived their rights to a speedy trial. Pretrial conference is now set for September 29 at 2:00pm.

Rob is being represented by Mark Enenbach: http://www.mcgrathnorth.com/attorneys/mark-f-enenbach/ (http://www.mcgrathnorth.com/attorneys/mark-f-enenbach/)

Hope is being represented by Peter Blakeslee, a Lincoln attorney.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: bullit on August 18, 2014, 08:41:06 PM
I bet it ain't gonna be cheap.....
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: bkoenig on August 18, 2014, 09:30:06 PM
I bet it ain't gonna be cheap.....

Bad decisions tend to be expensive.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: mike_p on August 19, 2014, 10:43:34 AM
Man, I'm never gonna get my can...

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Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: RobertH on August 19, 2014, 11:40:40 AM
Do you have a receipt? You could take him to small claims. If he filed your paperwork, i thought the omaha ATF was handling the transfers.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: mike_p on August 19, 2014, 12:25:01 PM
I got my receipt. I contacted the ATF back in March. They told me there wasn't much they could do yet. If Rob is found guilty and looses his FFL, the ATF said they would
 expedite the process.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: bullit on August 19, 2014, 12:27:36 PM
Did you pay for it with a credit card?  If so, challenge the charge i.e. you did not receive your merchandise (once the BATFE approval comes through).
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Gary on August 19, 2014, 02:20:54 PM
After so many days goes by, not much the credit card companies will do in most cases.  I think the main window closes at 60 days.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: mike_p on August 19, 2014, 06:45:14 PM
Paid with a check. I am not as mad about being out the $ as worried that there is a class 3 item in my name that is not in my possession.

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Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: gsd on August 20, 2014, 07:32:10 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about that, I'm willing to bet any pending NFA items are now in possession of the ATF until proper approval and transfer to rightful owners.


Don't quote me on that, it's just what I would do as the ATF were I in that position.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: bkoenig on August 20, 2014, 12:28:33 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about that, I'm willing to bet any pending NFA items are now in possession of the ATF until proper approval and transfer to rightful owners.


Don't quote me on that, it's just what I would do as the ATF were I in that position.

That's assuming they haven't given it to a Mexican drug cartel. 
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: gsd on August 20, 2014, 01:27:35 PM
That's assuming they haven't given it to a Mexican drug cartel. 



Touche sir.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: mike_p on September 04, 2014, 10:19:37 PM
A little update. I received a postcard from Exeter Arms last Saturday informing my paperwork was back. It stated that I could pickup my suppressor on Thursday between 2-4 pm. I had to work, but my wife volunteered to pick it up for me (she's on my trust). She arrived at about 2 pm today and she said there was actually several people there to pick up purchases. The store was completely empty except for a table to fill out forms. Apparently the shop is only open 1 day a week for 2 hours.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: FarmerRick on September 05, 2014, 01:13:49 PM
A little update. I received a postcard from Exeter Arms last Saturday informing my paperwork was back. It stated that I could pickup my suppressor on Thursday between 2-4 pm. I had to work, but my wife volunteered to pick it up for me (she's on my trust). She arrived at about 2 pm today and she said there was actually several people there to pick up purchases. The store was completely empty except for a table to fill out forms. Apparently the shop is only open 1 day a week for 2 hours.

Who was working there?

Hope? Rob? Someone else?
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: RedDot on September 05, 2014, 07:38:23 PM
Who was working there?

Hope? Rob? Someone else?

The BATFE agents running the sting....  :P
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: mike_p on September 05, 2014, 09:29:56 PM
Who was working there?

Hope? Rob? Someone else?
From my wife's description of "big , bald guy" I would say it was Rob.

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Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: FarmerRick on September 06, 2014, 09:44:10 AM
From my wife's description of "big , bald guy" I would say it was Rob.

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Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: tstuart34 on September 06, 2014, 09:51:30 AM
Haha that always cracks me up
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: bkoenig on September 06, 2014, 05:51:04 PM
Glad you got your can.  I'm sure that's a big relief.

Oh, and someone needs to teach Rob how to run an iron.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: OnTheFly on September 06, 2014, 08:03:46 PM
Glad you got your can.  I'm sure that's a big relief.

Oh, and someone needs to teach Rob how to run an iron.

Maybe he will learn that in prison.

Fly
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Gary on September 07, 2014, 10:03:13 PM
I did not know the guy, never did business with him, but I feel sorry his circumstances turned out the way they did.    His own fault or not, he has a child, and she will loose a dad to this mess.   Got to feel sadness for the way life goes sometimes. 

Not a fan of suicide,  but it is a wonder more people do not exit stage left once the floor falls out from them.   I spoke to someone that is close to this, and final chapters have not been published in this story.   Anyone close to that family should keep in touch, with hugs. 
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: RobertH on October 24, 2014, 03:26:22 PM
i was at DE Guns today and a guy was talking about getting a suppressor.  he said he was going to get it from Exeter Arms since they are the only dealer around here.  i went up to him and said he's no longer in business and a felon.  i can't believe people don't know about this!  if i had an NFOA pamphlet, i would have given it to him.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: newfalguy101 on October 24, 2014, 05:46:43 PM
Dude, there are more guys selling cans these days than you can shake a stick at!!
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: CitizenClark on December 19, 2014, 08:02:18 AM
Rough day for the Androynas:

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The Exeter couple who withheld almost $200,000 in state and local sales taxes will head to prison next month, a Lancaster County District judge ordered Thursday.

Robert "Rob" Androyna and his ex-wife, Hope Androyna, who ran Exeter Arms, a firearms dealership, were convicted of sales tax evasion and income tax evasion.

Their crimes were not accounting mistakes, Assistant Attorney General George Welch told Judge Robert Otte.

Otte agreed, sentencing Robert Androyna to two consecutive 18- to 36-month prison terms and his ex-wife to two one-year terms to be served simultaneously.

Read the rest at http://journalstar.com/news/local/911/exeter-couple-gets-prison-time-for-tax-evasion/article_2d2c2a95-bfbc-5ad9-b25b-927f6f07fb25.html (http://journalstar.com/news/local/911/exeter-couple-gets-prison-time-for-tax-evasion/article_2d2c2a95-bfbc-5ad9-b25b-927f6f07fb25.html)
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: FarmerRick on December 19, 2014, 10:41:34 AM
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Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: barmandr on December 19, 2014, 11:44:06 AM
I REALLY hope he ends up as the boyfriend of a very well-endowed inmate.  He ripped me off the one and only time I ever dealt with him.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: RobertH on December 19, 2014, 03:43:46 PM
oh well... case closed.  they are both adults and should have known better, but i feel sorry for the kids caught up in this.  maybe Rob's Tier 1 Delta Ranger friends can bail him out.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Lmbass14 on February 03, 2015, 05:32:49 PM
Wonder if Rob and Hope checked in the bed and breakfast yet?
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: CitizenClark on February 03, 2015, 10:41:58 PM
Wonder if Rob and Hope checked in the bed and breakfast yet?

Yes, they both reported on January 12th.

Hope is at the Women's Center (http://www.corrections.nebraska.gov/nccw.html) in York and will be eligible for parole in July: http://dcs-inmatesearch.ne.gov/Corrections/InmateDisplayServlet?DcsId=98752&showInmateImage=true (http://dcs-inmatesearch.ne.gov/Corrections/InmateDisplayServlet?DcsId=98752&showInmateImage=true)

Rob is at the Diagnostic & Evaluation Center (http://www.corrections.nebraska.gov/dec.html), probably waiting to be sent someplace else. He could be paroled as early as next July: http://dcs-inmatesearch.ne.gov/Corrections/InmateDisplayServlet?DcsId=81537&showInmateImage=true (http://dcs-inmatesearch.ne.gov/Corrections/InmateDisplayServlet?DcsId=81537&showInmateImage=true)
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: Lmbass14 on February 04, 2015, 08:27:52 AM
Yes, they both reported on January 12th.

Hope is at the Women's Center (http://www.corrections.nebraska.gov/nccw.html) in York and will be eligible for parole in July: http://dcs-inmatesearch.ne.gov/Corrections/InmateDisplayServlet?DcsId=98752&showInmateImage=true (http://dcs-inmatesearch.ne.gov/Corrections/InmateDisplayServlet?DcsId=98752&showInmateImage=true)

Rob is at the Diagnostic & Evaluation Center (http://www.corrections.nebraska.gov/dec.html), probably waiting to be sent someplace else. He could be paroled as early as next July: http://dcs-inmatesearch.ne.gov/Corrections/InmateDisplayServlet?DcsId=81537&showInmateImage=true (http://dcs-inmatesearch.ne.gov/Corrections/InmateDisplayServlet?DcsId=81537&showInmateImage=true)

Thanks.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: dkarp on March 09, 2015, 02:31:03 PM


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A little update. I received a postcard from Exeter Arms last Saturday informing my paperwork was back. It stated that I could pickup my suppressor on Thursday between 2-4 pm. I had to work, but my wife volunteered to pick it up for me (she's on my trust). She arrived at about 2 pm today and she said there was actually several people there to pick up purchases. The store was completely empty except for a table to fill out forms. Apparently the shop is only open 1 day a week for 2 hours.

If you don't mind me asking, how long were you waiting? I had heard horror stories about them not even submitting paperwork to begin with, let alone the long waiting times.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: dkarp on March 09, 2015, 02:34:43 PM
i was at DE Guns today and a guy was talking about getting a suppressor.  he said he was going to get it from Exeter Arms since they are the only dealer around here.  i went up to him and said he's no longer in business and a felon.  i can't believe people don't know about this!  if i had an NFOA pamphlet, i would have given it to him.

???  He had no idea about Reaper Arms, etc? Even Big shots is listed as a dealer for somebody's silencers, can't remember who right now... You would think anyone looking for a silencer would have done a little more looking.
Title: Re: Exeter gun dealers face felony tax evasion charges
Post by: mike_p on March 09, 2015, 03:00:46 PM


If you don't mind me asking, how long were you waiting? I had heard horror stories about them not even submitting paperwork to begin with, let alone the long waiting times.

I bought the can Nov 29, 2013 and took it home September 2014.

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