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Title: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: DanClrk51 on February 17, 2014, 04:16:58 PM
The Republican Primary for Governor is on May 13th 2014. Now that Senator Charlie Janssen dropped out of the race who would be the best candidate for our cause?

Specifically which one of these candidates would be most likely to sign permitless "constitutional" concealed carry & statewide firearms preemption (meaning also the elimination of Omaha's Handgun Registration Scheme)?

Republican candidates include Attorney General Jon Bruning, State Senator Tom Carlson, Auditor Mike Foley, State Senator Beau McCoy, Pete Ricketts, and Omaha attorney Bryan Slone.

Let me know if I missed anyone...
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: AAllen on February 17, 2014, 06:22:05 PM
Dan the NFOA-PAF will be sending each of the candidates questionaires, those will be two questions we will directly ask.  I am taking suggestions for other questions.  That goes for all of the offices up for election, if anyone has a qustion they think needs to be asked post it and I will see what I could do about getting it included.  These will be going out shortly after the fileing dealing so we are certain to give each of the candidates an equal chance to participate.
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: DanClrk51 on February 18, 2014, 03:35:47 PM
Thanks Andy!

Other questions to ask: Victim Protection Act? Uniform Sign Standard for no guns signs?
Specific question: "Do you believe the game law (applied everywhere) banning loaded shotguns in vehicles violates the 2nd Amendment?"
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: unfy on February 18, 2014, 03:49:01 PM
Sadly, none of these guys are exciting :(.

Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: Husker_Fan on February 19, 2014, 08:30:39 AM
None may be that exciting, but some are better than others.
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: sh68137 on March 06, 2014, 04:30:51 PM
1. Do you believe that the Constitution is the "supreme law of the land" and that the Bill of Rights acknowledges our birthrights?

2. If so, should these rights be proactively protected from infringement by all levels of government, including city, county and state?

3. Please give some examples of gun laws you consider constitutional.

4. Please give some examples of gun laws you consider unconstitutional.

5. Does the right to bear arms include the right for any peaceable citizen to carry them concealed without a permit, as in Vermont and Alaska?

6. Do you believe that Americans have a right to own, use and carry weapons of military pattern, and will you use the prestige of elected office to publicly promote that right?

7. Do you support or oppose registration of weapons? Why?

8. Do you support or oppose licensing requirements to own or carry firearms?
Why?

9. What specific gun laws will you work to get repealed?

10. If elected, will you back your words of support for firearms rights up with consistent actions? How?
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: Kendahl on March 06, 2014, 09:10:20 PM
What are people's opinions about John Bruning? On two issues I am aware of (Omaha's handgun registration for CCW permit holders and CCW permit eligibility for legal resident aliens) Bruning sided with civilian gun rights. Contrast him with Iowa's attorney general who told cities they could enact their own local restrictions despite the state's preemption law.
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: Dan W on March 06, 2014, 09:15:22 PM
FWIW Jon is a long standing NFOA member
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: DaveB on March 06, 2014, 11:47:00 PM
Castle Doctrine.
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: Husker_Fan on March 08, 2014, 06:34:50 AM
Granted, this is from his days in law school (November '92) but Bruning hasn't always been on our side on guns or some other issues. 
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: jFader on March 08, 2014, 09:22:26 AM
Granted, this is from his days in law school (November '92) but Bruning hasn't always been on our side on guns or some other issues. 

Huh, those darn hollow point bullets Mr. Bruning....we should all be defending ourselves with fmj?
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: greg58 on March 08, 2014, 07:43:10 PM
His staff calls him the "General".
My question for Mr. Bruning is why he allowed a back room deal for Brenda Council on her campaign funds misappropriation?
Would any other citizen get the same deal?

Greg58
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: bullit on March 08, 2014, 08:51:22 PM
1) "General" is an official way to address an Attorney General
2) Back rooam deal? Do elaborate.  BC was hammered pretty hard via fines and suspended law license iirc
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: greg58 on March 09, 2014, 08:14:21 PM
http://watchdog.org/104268/brenda-council-plea-deal/ (http://watchdog.org/104268/brenda-council-plea-deal/)
http://journalstar.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/brenda-council-agrees-to-law-license-suspension/article_cdb0a90d-97d6-53b7-bbdd-33bdb7fe0a7e.html (http://journalstar.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/brenda-council-agrees-to-law-license-suspension/article_cdb0a90d-97d6-53b7-bbdd-33bdb7fe0a7e.html)
http://www.omaha.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20131205/NEWS/131209362/1685 (http://www.omaha.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20131205/NEWS/131209362/1685)

Now I think if a normal citizen is caught embezzling funds from their employer or some organization they volunteer with etc. They are typically charged and more severly punished than a $500 dollar fine that Bruning's office arranged with the Senator, see first story.
http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2008/07_08/2008_07_11_Burbach_NunSentenced.htm (http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2008/07_08/2008_07_11_Burbach_NunSentenced.htm)
Here is the story of an Omaha Nun with no previous criminal history, but had a gambling problem, who went to jail for embezzlement.
Here is a Postmaster that stole $6600 and was sentanced to 6 months in jail.
http://www.nebraska.tv/story/19656447/nebraska-postmaster-sentenced-in-embezzlement-case (http://www.nebraska.tv/story/19656447/nebraska-postmaster-sentenced-in-embezzlement-case)
My point is that I have the perception of a sweetheart deal worked out for Brenda Council because she is a former Senator, and it has Jon Bruning's fingerprints on it. Nothing would come out of the "Generals" office without his approval.
Once again I would like to ask Mr. Bruning if any other normal citizen would get the same deal?
Greg58
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: GreyGeek on March 12, 2014, 11:37:48 AM
Bruning: "I support gun control".

No one's POV is so intractable that it is immune from change or changing conditions, unless they are pure ideologues.

I used to be an atheist, until my  knowledge of physics, math, biology and science in general increased significantly because of my college majors in the same subject areas.  IOW, the more I learned about science the more I came to believe in a divine "first cause".

While a student in college my daughter was a staunch liberal and berated people like Limbaugh (whom I dislike), myself,  and conservatives in general.  We avoided political discussions for the sake of family peace.   Then, she graduated, got a job, started a family and what do you know .... all on her own her POV did almost a 180 switch.  :)    Now, like me, she is socially liberal but fiscally conservative.

Until I saw the photocopy of his article in the Daily Nebraskan I was leaning toward Bruning.  Now I have to examine his 2A activity since then more closely.   Too many politicans utter the words "I swear to .... protect and defend the Constitution of the United states against all enemies, both foreign and domestic, and I take this oath willingly, without mental reservations or purposes of evasion." but when they get in office the do just the opposite.  What will Bruning do?  Now I wonder.
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: Mudinyeri on March 12, 2014, 12:31:32 PM
Granted, this is from his days in law school (November '92) but Bruning hasn't always been on our side on guns or some other issues. 

Yeah, that definitely bears some investigation.

Even at my most "liberal" (a point in my life where I personally wanted nothing to do with guns), I was still ashamed by the infringements we the people had allowed our lawmakers to put on our Second Amendment rights.

Edit: Anyone have much background on Beau McCoy?  He purports to be pro-Second Amendment and pro-life.
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: sidearm1 on March 12, 2014, 02:16:55 PM
Just because we haven't stirred the pot for awhile.  I am still not decided on who to vote for, but to say Bruning had control of the Brenda Council problem.  When did he get appointed as a Federal Attorney for the District of Nebraska.  She was charged federally and punished federally.  Even the articles referenced talked about Federal charges.
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: greg58 on March 12, 2014, 02:57:12 PM
Just because we haven't stirred the pot for awhile.  I am still not decided on who to vote for, but to say Bruning had control of the Brenda Council problem.  When did he get appointed as a Federal Attorney for the District of Nebraska.  She was charged federally and punished federally.  Even the articles referenced talked about Federal charges.

First she was charged by the State 2 misdemeanors/ $500 fine. (See first story)
Then she was charged Federally.
I do not try to imply that Bruning had anything to do with the Federal charges.
However I am still waiting for an answer to my question.

Greg58
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: David Hineline on March 13, 2014, 12:59:31 AM
I would add the question to see which one would support a state law requiring local CLEOs to sign off on NFA transfers, and stop the secret handshake crap that some communities have to put up with.
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: bullit on March 13, 2014, 12:10:29 PM
From the "For What its worth department".....  I am a personal friend of Bruning (that and a dollar will get me a up of coffee at Village Inn).  The moment the Unicam passed the reciprocity law I contacted him the day the Gov signed.  I discussed with him the states that were "graciously" recognizing our CHP (even though we were not recognizing theirs at that time) and that the passed legislation allowed him to name the states we would grant reciprocity to.  Alas, it was a matter of days before he "published" the list and he expedited requests with other states AGs....so I am certainly of the belief he's changed his tune vice his UNL Law Screwl days.....
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: landon410 on March 13, 2014, 02:49:46 PM
Bruning is the step brother in law of a friend of mine at work.
Never met the man a day in my life but I hear stories about watching golf on his tablet at the dinner tablet during a family thanksgiving meal.
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: David Hineline on March 14, 2014, 06:27:58 AM
Thanks for posting that retro column, stripes don't come off a Zebra.  Bruning is dead to me.
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: RedDot on March 16, 2014, 11:24:33 AM
Still not sold on Bruning.  I couldn't get over my gut feeling that he's the classic "weather vane" politician when he ran for US Senate and so I supported Fischer.  Just not sure I could trust his "ideals" in a closed Governor's meeting with someone like Christie anymore than I could a senate meeting with McCain.  As far as NFOA membership being a deciding factor, I'll hold out till Farmer Rick throws his hat in the ring. 
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: FarmerRick on March 16, 2014, 11:31:12 AM
Still not sold on Bruning.  I couldn't get over my gut feeling that he's the classic "weather vane" politician when he ran for US Senate and so I supported Fischer.  Just not sure I could trust his "ideals" in a closed Governor's meeting with someone like Christie anymore than I could a senate meeting with McCain.  As far as NFOA membership being a deciding factor, I'll hold out till Farmer Rick throws his hat in the ring.

Don't hold your breath.  While it wouldn't be quite this bad...  :o   

(http://sporeflections.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/polls_skeletons_in_closet_1037_477702_answer_1_xlarge.png)
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: GreyGeek on March 16, 2014, 03:26:45 PM
Bruning is the step brother in law of a friend of mine at work.
Never met the man a day in my life but I hear stories about watching golf on his tablet at the dinner tablet during a family thanksgiving meal.


Multi-tasking is not a crime, or I would have been jailed years ago.  However, like RedDot, he gave me a "weather vane" feeling too, which is also why I voted for Fischer, despite her land problems, and she hasn't disappointed me yet.
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: greg58 on March 16, 2014, 08:49:47 PM
Multi-tasking is not a crime, or I would have been jailed years ago.  However, like RedDot, he gave me a "weather vane" feeling too, which is also why I voted for Fischer, despite her land problems, and she hasn't disappointed me yet.


Quite true, I was feeling the same and could never put my finger on it.
I just felt like I could trust Deb Fischer more.
My wife who is very intuitive and who's "feelings" I've learned to trust, has always thought Bruning was sneaky, and an opportunist.
Don't know who I will support for Gov. but right now I'm leaning toward my Senator McCoy.

Greg58
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: Rich B on March 23, 2014, 01:22:56 PM
Bruning is the step brother in law of a friend of mine at work.
Never met the man a day in my life but I hear stories about watching golf on his tablet at the dinner tablet during a family thanksgiving meal.

That may be a comment about the people he was dining with, not the man himself. 
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: FarmerRick on March 24, 2014, 01:27:40 PM
If you cared enough to watch the debate yesterday, say AYE.



AYE!
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: tstuart34 on March 31, 2014, 08:30:03 AM
Has the NFOA sent out its questionnaires yet?
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: Dan W on March 31, 2014, 12:40:19 PM
The NFOA does not send out the questionnaires. That is a function of the NFOA Political action fund (PAF) which has a separate board. I do not know the timeframe the NFOA-PAF is working with.

I do know they need volunteers to help get the work done if you are so inclined    http://www.nfoapaf.org/ (http://www.nfoapaf.org/)
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: unfy on April 02, 2014, 05:49:59 PM
I was busy moving, so didn't catch the debate.  From what my boss said, it was uninteresting.

I'd like to see one of these morons stand out and SAY SOMETHING.

Make me want to vote for you, please.

Hell, I think Gov. Walker came down and did some kind of endorsement thing for Ricketts - but by the end of it, you were more likely to vote for Walker than any of our guys.

Why can't our Nebraskan brothers say anything to convince us that they have a plan, the details of this plan, or or or or or.



As a side complaint, wasn't Stothert supposed to get rid of the restaurant tax ? Wasn't that a big deal about her campaign ? WTF?

Think i'll go sulk in the corner being pissed off at politics and other things.

Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: Husker_Fan on April 02, 2014, 06:10:49 PM
That was a huge part of her campaign. Unfortunately, it brings in too much revenue for the city to give up and the restaurateurs stopped raising hell over it.
Title: Re: Nebraska Governor Candidates
Post by: unfy on April 02, 2014, 06:16:14 PM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0a3fg-fUWdw/T3On8vGgmVI/AAAAAAAAA4A/PJg-1gRMH5Y/s1600/bunk-the-wire.gif)

Yet another reason why I was glad to leave Omaha.