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General Categories => Firearms Training and Education => Topic started by: JTH on July 28, 2014, 10:10:03 AM
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Precision Response Training will be holding a 3-hour (approximately, may run a little longer) seminar on Saturday, August 16th, in our continuing string (hey, two is a string) of My Ops Are Blacker Than Your Ops seminars.
Topic: Efficiency in Motion
If you watch people negotiate stages in USPSA or IDPA, you often see people hesitating, off-balance, or just plain slow. In this seminar, we'll be teaching you some skills for efficient movement, along with giving you practical shooting advice to to make your shooting more effective based on your choice of shooting platform. (Stance, posture, and grip.)
We will also give you some pointers about minimizing motion needed for shooting skills like draws and reloads.
Movement Seminar: 3 hours, $30, August 16th, starting at 8:30am. We plan to be finished by noon.
Register here:
http://precisionresponse.4t.com/Schedule.html (http://precisionresponse.4t.com/Schedule.html)
(When you register, your registration email will show a "My Ops Are Blacker Than Your Ops seminar.")
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Precision Response Training will be holding a 3-hour (approximately, may run a little longer) seminar on Saturday, August 16th, in our continuing string (hey, two is a string) of My Ops Are Blacker Than Your Ops seminars.
Topic: Efficiency in Motion
If you watch people negotiate stages in USPSA or IDPA, you often see people hesitating, off-balance, or just plain slow. In this seminar, we'll be teaching you some skills for efficient movement, along with giving you practical shooting advice to to make your shooting more effective based on your choice of shooting platform. (Stance, posture, and grip.)
We will also give you some pointers about minimizing motion needed for shooting skills like draws and reloads.
Movement Seminar: 3 hours, $30, August 16th, starting at 8:30am. We plan to be finished by noon.
Register here:
http://precisionresponse.4t.com/Schedule.html (http://precisionresponse.4t.com/Schedule.html)
(When you register, your registration email will show a "My Ops Are Blacker Than Your Ops seminar.")
If you're a master tactician type guy, you already know the value of learning how to shoot from awkward positions. What better way to do that than to move awkwardly, trip and fall, crash and burn (and perhaps close the distance by bouncing into the target)? Hard to beat those kinds of moves. Of course, the naysayers will opine "That will get you killed on the street." Phooeey!!!
And nothing refines trigger control like picking gravel out of your knees and forehead.
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Anyone who came to the Area 3 Championship has now seen MANY examples of people not having the faintest idea of how to move efficiently.
(That was one tough match. FUN, but the stages were really mentally difficult overall.)
IDPA---same sort of thing. How many times have you seen someone run up to a window/port, pause, look, pause, put the gun through the port, pause, aim, then finally shoot, then pull the gun back from the port then FINALLY be able to move on?
Wouldn't it be nice to be on target the moment you get there? Maybe have your body placed so that you can start moving the moment you are finished shooting? Know exactly where you are going next, and be able to accelerate as efficiently as possible?
This seminar isn't going to magically turn you into Usain Bolt. (Just sayin'.) But it WILL help you work on getting faster and more efficient in your movement. Shooting accurately is obviously important---but in action competitions, most people waste HUGE amounts of time in poor movement.
Wouldn't it be nice to do better in the rankings without having to do any of that pesky marksmanship practice? :)
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Wouldn't it be nice to do better in the rankings without having to do any of that pesky marksmanship practice? :)
Yeah, I've just about given up on pesky marksmanship practice. It's too hard. :)
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Yeah, I've just about given up on pesky marksmanship practice. It's too hard. :)
See? There's the right attitude!
With some movement skills and a large amount of money spent on equipment, it'll OBVIOUSLY make up for any difficulties with aiming and trigger control!
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Just Signed Up For This Promising Event
I'm not coming to increase my speed/shorten my shooting time. Certain natural laws (gravity, 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, Newton's Laws of Motion, and my own glacial shooting speed) may not be abrogated. FWIW, My favorite Civil War general is Gen. George Thomas (Old Slow Trot).
Actually, I'm coming in the hope that I can pick up some entirely new awkward shooting positions, as demonstrated either by jthhapkido or fellow clients. And just where else can you find a full morning of excellent handgun instruction for a mere $30Buck$??.
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I'm planning on signing up as long as SWMBO doesn't have any plans for me that day.
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bkoenig:
Then don't plan on chatting w/anyone during the breaks. I'll have you cornered for brain-picking about how to set up a Lee 1000 Progressive.
Of which I have one, all in a clutter of random, odd-looking parts, along with a set of cryptic instructions.
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Hmmm....no experience here with a Lee progressive. I've heard they're a little fiddly to get working just right, though.
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Maybe a Woops on me.
Becuz............I thought you had one such Lee progressive for sale here on the Forum few months ago.
Whoever was selling it, I wuz thinking about buying it, but--most fortunately--somebody else got there first. Saved me from having two (2) presses that I didn't know how to use. Illogical, yes. Of course. But this here is handgunnery, which has an entirely different logic set.
Anyhow, back to main thread topic: hope to see you @ jth's event.
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Oh...that was me, but it was a Lee Turret press. Whole different animal.
Anyway, I just signed up. Hopefully I can get some knowledge pounded through my thick skull so I can use it at the multigun match the following day.
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I'm going to stop accepting registrations for the seminar at 10 people , so we've only got room for one more person.
If you are interested, make sure you get your registration in soon!
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If anyone from the Lincoln area is attending and would like to carpool let me know.
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I'm going to stop accepting registrations for the seminar at 10 people , so we've only got room for one more person.
If you are interested, make sure you get your registration in soon!
Got your victims, I mean students, lined up yet?
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Got your victims, I mean students, lined up yet?
Got nine so far. We've got room for one more, so we'll see if we get one before Saturday.
Should be an interesting time. We have all sorts of folks showing up. :)
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Got nine so far. We've got room for one more, so we'll see if we get one before Saturday.
Should be an interesting time. We have all sorts of folks showing up. :)
I don't like the sound of this. Probably won't get to use my colorful sailor talk. :)
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Little do you guys know that teaching us "movement" means we'll be learning to dance in unison like a boy band.
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Little do you guys know that teaching us "movement" means we'll be learning to dance in unison like a boy band.
Little more swing, little less salsa.
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I don't like the sound of this. Probably won't get to use my colorful sailor talk. :)
Please, don't offend my delicate sensibilities :laugh:
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Well............
I had the good fortune to attend this event earlier this morning. Here's my feedback, FWIW:
jthhapkido (jth) provided an excellent program for USPSA (and IDPA, as well) shooters who wish to reduce their clock times by improving their stage movements.
Nine shooters attended. Weather was friendly. Not really hot and mostly overcast during the seminar. No glaring sunshine.
Stage setups were plain vanilla simple, which really helped concentrate the action on motion and movement aspects, rather than trying to hit swingers (which could be another seminar) and such.
jth, perhaps because of his martial arts training, can move like a cat, so it's instructional to watch him run a course of fire. However, it's much harder to imitate him. (I only fell once, and was not the only one.) He teaches a move called the split-step which is used to get the shooter moving quickly from a stationary position. He also shows the shooter how to combine the aspects of stopping at the end of the run (foot position, handgun movement, and shooting) such that they are melded into a single fluid event, rather than strung out in time-consuming sequence. And working around the barriers.
And there was much more, as well. Including a lot of improvement of shooters' times.
It's always a pleasure to work a class under the guidance of a thoroughly professional, competent, and dedicated trainer. As was this particular case.
Summary: First class handgun training event.
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I've often heard "footwork" mentioned when reading about practical pistol shooting and shooters. I never gave it much thought though. Okay, you run to the next shooting position and open fire. That's all there is to it, right? It's not rocket science, right?
Well um, no, not really. You've got to plan. Where does your lead foot need to land when you arrive at the next shooting position? Doesn't it make sense to have the gun up, at eye level, before leaning out from behind a barricade? Maybe even have it up there before you arrive at the next position? And shouldn't you have an idea where the first target is in relation to the barricade before you lean out? Maybe picking out landmarks on the barricade itself to help orient yourself? It's a whole new world!
Body mechanics are obviously important if your goal is to shoot at a high level. It's important even if your goal is to simply improve your match performance and scores by shaving time off your runs.
To my shame, I never gave any of this stuff much thought. :-[ (Maybe I was just too wrapped up in simply learning to hit targets.)
The spring started to leave my legs by the end of the morning and executing the split step wasn't pretty to watch. But now I have a pretty good idea how to practice the move and improve.
Handgun shooting.... seems there's an infinite amount of things to learn, practice and improve. And one can never ignore the basics either, like a good trigger press (which can always be improved IMHO.)
What I learned this morning will definitely improve my times. All I have to do is practice.
I highly recommend this class to anyone looking to improve.
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I learned quite a bit - it's all stuff that when you have it explained to you, you say "duh, why haven't I been doing that?". But, without someone to point it out you just don't think about it. The methods we worked on for starting from a standing position were very helpful to me. Despite the fact that I completely blew my last run of the day I do feel like I improved a lot. The proof will be in tomorrow's multigun match. I would also highly recommend this class for anyone interested in any kind of action shooting.
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Oh yeah, and my legs were already sore from the gym, but holy cow am I sore now. :)
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Very informative. Amazing the number of small things that turn into major time sucks. Now about that pesky marksmanship thing :laugh:
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When are you going to have another one of these...WHEN I'M IN TOWN?!
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When are you going to have another one of these...WHEN I'M IN TOWN?!
But---what if we don't want you to get better?
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But---what if we don't want you to get better?
Et tu, Brute?
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