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Title: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: Randy on August 26, 2014, 07:09:16 PM
KINGMAN, Ariz. — An instructor who was shot by a 9-year-old girl who fired an Uzi at a northwestern Arizona shooting range died Monday night at University Medical Center in Las Vegas.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/shooting-instructor-dies-after-being-accidentally-shot-girl (http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/shooting-instructor-dies-after-being-accidentally-shot-girl)
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: farmerbob on August 26, 2014, 09:45:31 PM
I watched partial video, looked like gun tracked up and to left towards instructor.
BB gun or  22lr. single shot would of been much better choice, no matter how this turned out I think it would of turned her off shooting for life. Very sad.
 :(
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: OnTheFly on August 26, 2014, 09:54:50 PM
Oh good!  This will be an opportunity for a new law to save us all from ourselves.

Fly
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: Gary on August 27, 2014, 12:37:52 AM
Very sad.  Surprised for the families involved, any video was released to the public.   I remember at a summer camp I attended, they had a .22 rifle bolted to a fence post, which limited the movement to only a few degrees in any direction.   Bet that instructor wishes he was teaching at my old summer camp.   At the time, I thought it was a complete rip off.    As I get older, I guess I am turning into a bold them down kind of a guy.  To hand a full auto firearm to a 60 pound 9 year old, unfamiliar with firearms, seems criminal.    I don't see this action, of letting 4th graders, shoot full auto firearms,  in any way supports her, or my 2nd Amendment rights.   The actions of that instructor, was a bad call, and it cost two families dearly.
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: Gary on August 27, 2014, 12:45:36 AM
In the comments below the video link, someone posts a little longer version of the video.  In it you see the gun barrel climb quickly up and left.  Multiple shots are heard, but only one round hits high on the berm.   Her shots went over the berm.   In the desert, lots of space is everywhere, but someone could have been killed when the shots went over the berm.   We can assume she fired that mag till it went dry.
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: bullit on August 27, 2014, 06:25:45 AM
IIRC ...  a similar incident happened a few years ago with a little girl shooting and killing her self when the gun recoiled.....
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: landon410 on August 27, 2014, 07:59:16 AM
so many things wrong with this, and its not worth going over every single one of them, but yes, some democrat will draft a law to try to save us from the roving gangs of 9 year girls with full auto weapons...

seriously, who gives a full auto weapon to a child that small? the firearm didn't even have a buttstock to help her control it what did the firearm instructor think was going to happen?
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: bullit on August 27, 2014, 08:45:32 AM
It was a little boy .....  http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/graphic-video-shown-in-boys-uzi-death/1d0z7d6pt (http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/graphic-video-shown-in-boys-uzi-death/1d0z7d6pt)
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: ILoveCats on August 27, 2014, 09:18:58 AM
...who gives a full auto weapon to a child that small?

Well, THAT guy, for one.

Not to be disrespectful at a moment of tragedy but my internal scheisskopf detector was going off right from the beginning of the video, just from his manner of talking to and working with a 9 y.o. kid.  Goes back to that whole "Gift of Fear" concept and listening to that internal voice that surely must have been in the back of the parents' heads saying, "Hmmmm.... I wonder if this may be a bad idea" and surpressing the other voice saying "...but golly I sure hate to offend the guy in the tactical pants."

I'll keep singing the praises of the incomparable Savage Rascal single shot .22 for kids.   
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: farmerbob on August 27, 2014, 10:55:46 AM
I've never shot full auto before but from what I've seen and heard some adults can have a hard time controlling muzzle rise. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nwFeqErv8x4 (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nwFeqErv8x4)
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: farmerbob on August 27, 2014, 11:10:35 AM
Nice! CNN is doing a whole segment on this and yes it was a 9 year old girl, the boy was previous to this case and he shot and killed himself, charges were filed in that case. A range officer said you have to be 8 to go full auto at that range.

CNN is talking about more gun control laws to address this issue.
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: farmerbob on August 27, 2014, 11:59:16 AM
http://www.shotgunnews.com/news/bad-idea-9-year-old-uzi/ (http://www.shotgunnews.com/news/bad-idea-9-year-old-uzi/)
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: CitizenClark on August 27, 2014, 12:15:46 PM
KINGMAN, Ariz. — An instructor who was shot by a 9-year-old girl who fired an Uzi at a northwestern Arizona shooting range died Monday night at University Medical Center in Las Vegas.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/shooting-instructor-dies-after-being-accidentally-shot-girl (http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nevada/shooting-instructor-dies-after-being-accidentally-shot-girl)

Sad situation, but at least the person who was acting negligently was the only one injured.

There is a reason why we only used single shot firearms to teach the campers at the scout camp where I worked as a teenager.
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: Gary on August 27, 2014, 01:25:28 PM
Deliberate actions of a parent, directing the actions of a minor child, when those actions cause death or injury, can be charged as a crime in some states.  I doubt the poor judgment of these parents, to let that small child shoot that gun, will just slide by.    There are no statute of limitations for capitol crimes like this???, so this could linger on for years, till the right prosecutor wants to make waves, and stir the pot. 

Very sad.   With an admin in Washington that will let no crisis go unused, we can expect a nail or three in the coffin of 2nd Amendment rights.   
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: bkoenig on August 27, 2014, 06:42:43 PM
I really feel sorry for the kid.  She's going to be messed up over this for a long time, I bet.

I have a 10 year old daughter and I can't imagine her having anywhere near the upper body strength or coordination to control a full auto 9mm.  She does fine with a .22 but she's not ready for anything more.
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: Randy on August 28, 2014, 01:01:41 AM
seriously, who gives a full auto weapon to a child that small? the firearm didn't even have a buttstock to help her control it what did the firearm instructor think was going to happen?

Actually the firearm did have a foldable stock.
Title: Re: Shooting instructor dies after being accidentally shot by girl 9 yrs. old.
Post by: bullit on August 30, 2014, 05:15:29 PM
http://time.com/3211885/guns-children-firing-range-uzi/ (http://time.com/3211885/guns-children-firing-range-uzi/)