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General Categories => Newsworthy => Topic started by: Mntnman on September 26, 2014, 12:07:00 PM
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A man beheaded a woman and stabbed another person at his workplace before being shot by the COO, a reserve sheriffs deputy. Reportedly, he had been trying to convert people to Islam. Thank God the COO was armed!
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/police-woman-beheaded-at-oklahoma-workplace (http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/police-woman-beheaded-at-oklahoma-workplace)
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Another case of work place violence. Move along, nothing to see here.
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nonetheless, My tin hat and I would rather go recheck supplies again.
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If it aint zombies, its the rag heads, I gotta stop at tractor supply and pick up some more barbed wire,
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Religion of peace, sure.
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Religion of peace, sure.
Just the tip of the iceberg it seems...
http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/26/sharia-law-is-coming-oklahoma-beheader-celebrated-terrorists-disparaged-non-muslims-on-facebook/ (http://dailycaller.com/2014/09/26/sharia-law-is-coming-oklahoma-beheader-celebrated-terrorists-disparaged-non-muslims-on-facebook/)
Oklahoma beheading suspect Alton Alexander Nolen calls himself “Jah’Keem Yisrael” on his Facebook page, where he uploaded photos of himself reading the Koran and wearing Muslim religious clothing.
Nolen’s Facebook “cover” photo appears to be of several Taliban fighters, according to a Google reverse image search.
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Where are the calls for a hate crime???
If this wasn't a hate crime there is no such thing!!!
We need to stand up against this politically correct bull$hi*t.
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"In Islam, Muslims are required to offer their would-be convert an opportunity to convert first before severing their heads. When the non-Muslim refuses to convert, the mercy killing is allowed to commence."
http://shoebat.com/2014/09/26/muslim-convert-beheads-oklahoma-woman/ (http://shoebat.com/2014/09/26/muslim-convert-beheads-oklahoma-woman/)
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it only takes one side to start a war. If you believe it or not, one side has already declared war on all NON- Muslim people. I can guarantee you the police and sheriff dept have gotten pressure from the white house to call this work place violence and not a hate crime which it certainly is. Hate crimes in America only go in one direction.
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/breaking-muslims-shouting-praise-allah-surround-ok-police-following-press-conference-on-beheading/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/breaking-muslims-shouting-praise-allah-surround-ok-police-following-press-conference-on-beheading/)
The radical Muslims want to behead the infidels.
The moderate Muslims want the radical Muslims to behead the infidels.
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yeah lots of barbed wire,
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here is what happened at a news conference
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/breaking-muslims-shouting-praise-allah-surround-ok-police-following-press-conference-on-beheading/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/breaking-muslims-shouting-praise-allah-surround-ok-police-following-press-conference-on-beheading/)
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here is what happened at a news conference
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/breaking-muslims-shouting-praise-allah-surround-ok-police-following-press-conference-on-beheading/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/09/breaking-muslims-shouting-praise-allah-surround-ok-police-following-press-conference-on-beheading/)
So, your source is some guys twitter feed? Not exactly a credible news source.
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So, your source is some guys twitter feed? Not exactly a credible news source.
Some facts the media will refuse to put out there. This seems like one of those cases to me. I guess will wait and see.
If you look to the mainstream media for their slanted filtered version be my guest. I realize you can't believe everything you read on the internet, sad thing, same goes for any source.( Tin hat in the on position)
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Yep...I'll tend to give a bit more weight to it when it's reported by a few other credible sources as having happened.
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you can question the source, but the pic sure talks to me,
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You mean a group standing in around the police giving a press conference? That looks pretty normal to me.
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So, your source is some guys twitter feed? Not exactly a credible news source.
Just as reliable, if not more so, than major media news sources. A lot of the conservative and right wing Internet sites are going ballistic and stating as fact their assumptions. The news media in the area showed the police press conference (http://www.news9.com/clip/10627942/moore-police-news-conference-on-workplace-beheading-part-i). One can plainly see that the conference did NOT take place outside, and no one was shouting. Merely reporters asking questions. Not very intelligent questions but questions just the same.
The actual photo of the Muslims supposedly "praising Allah" for the beheading doesn't show much:
(http://newsninja2012.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/via-twitter.jpg)
One can see about 30-40 individuals, perhaps not all Muslims, surrounding two individuals, neither of which appear to be police officers. The man on the left, in the center, appears to be wearing some sort of white shirt that has a belt or a design that looks like a belt crossing from his right shoulder to his left waist. The photo was obviously taken from either a drone or a helicopter, probably a news helicopter.
The comments beneath the picture (http://www.conservativefiringline.com/muslims-surround-police-after-conference-on-oklahoma-beheading-praise-allah/) are those cited by Jim Hoft of the Gateway Pundit. He is citing "Bob Lawson", who gives comments relating to the Muslim gathering, which I quote here because that site may go away in the future. All in all, as an on-site observer, I'd give Lawson's remarks a fairly high value rating. Especially his conclusions, highlighted in red.
2-3 local OK muslims are reading passages from their Qurans outloud on the ground at site of news conference #oklahomabeheading
— Bob Lawson (@LandonLawson78) September 26, 2014
Cops/reporters were close by but not being yelled at by muslims as many have asked me but a few muslims were saying praise allah out loud
— Bob Lawson (@LandonLawson78) September 26, 2014
According to Lawson, a small percentage of those in attendance were Muslim.
Not all at the news conf. were muslims but I'm guessing probably 30-40 were out if the 100-120 total who were there.
— Bob Lawson (@LandonLawson78) September 26, 2014
He also noted:
I was lulled into feeling safe around here over the years and today was my wakeup call. @TWATLS @tradethecycles
— Bob Lawson (@LandonLawson78) September 26, 2014
As a result of all this, he promised:
I will never go anywhere around here without my weapon again. I'm afraid it's about to get bad in my part of Oklahoma. #oklahomabeheading
— Bob Lawson (@LandonLawson78) September 26, 2014
Apparently, Lawson got asked a lot of questions…
I can't keep up with all these questions. Sorry. Today was something I wish never happened but it did. Terrorism hit my town.
— Bob Lawson (@LandonLawson78) September 27, 2014
He also had kind words for Hoft:
Thank you for telling the truth of what I witnessed today. Many sites have taken my statements out of context but not you. @gatewaypundit
I googled Muslim mosques in Oklahoma City and noted that there are four of them Two are very small, converted offices or buildings. Much like you'd see on North 27th, around Vine st. One. the American Muslim Association, is about the size of a 450-500 person church, assuming they hold only one service.. The one Nolan was in, the Islamic Society of Greater OK, less than a mile from the AMA, is BIG and obviously has well over a 1,000 members, judging from the parking lot, which can park over 400 cars.
Now, there may be just a few or many "radical" Muslims at the ISGO. If just a few where are the leaders of that group deploring the beheading? There silence is deafening. Maybe THIS (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/09/26/OKC-Killer-Linked-Through-Imam-to-Al-Qaeda-Leader-Awlaki) is why:
Suhaib Webb, an Imam with ties to former Al Qaeda mastermind Anwar al-Awlaki, had also previously been the leader of the Islamic Society of Greater Oklahoma City, which had been attended by Alton Nolen -- the man who on Thursday beheaded a former coworker after recently converting to Islam, Breitbart News has learned. Webb now serves as Imam of the sister organization of the mosque attended by Boston Marathon bombers Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
The deafness appears to be one sided. The side calling for Jihad and beheadings is very loud. Apparently the ISGO members weren't antagonistic to Webb's message of hate.
An aside: I got curious about how many Mosques there were in other parts of the country, so I googled it. If the ISGO is any indication, we have a ton of subversive nests in all the major cities of this country. Both coasts and middle America. If they've been stashing weapons and ammo we have a major internal war brewing.
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You can debate all you want over whether "praise Allah" was being shouted or not and the veracity of the sources. The simple verified fact is that a large group of muslims did congregate at the scene as shown in the pictures. My focus shifts to "Why?"... What prompts a group of nearly 100 people to drop everything and make an appearance? Were they all drawn individually or was this a coordinated gathering and coordinated by whom, and to what end?
While some may speculate that they appeared to offer sympathy and solidarity with the victims, it could also be also be seen as a celebration of a jihadi attaining his martyrdom, which is a big event in Islam.
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it could also be also be seen as a celebration of a jihadi attaining his martyrdom,
Nolan isn't a martyr yet, but I hope he gets his wish. If he does, he'll really be surprised when he finds out that "his" 72 virgins aren't there waiting for him. BTW, what does it say about Islam's view of women that 72 virgins will be given to each Islamic Martyr? Do those virgins volunteer to be sex objects for just any male Muslim?
And, since Jesus said that in Heaven marriage won't exist, and Muslim's claim that Jesus was a prophet of theirs, an obvious conflict arises between what Mohamed claims and what Jesus said. They both can't be right. I'll go with the man from Bethlehem, not the one from Medina.
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The radical Muslims want to behead the infidels. The moderate Muslims want the radical Muslims to behead the infidels.
why is it every time I read this. I think of the door gunner in full metal jacket?
Door Gunner: Git some! Git some! Git some, yeah, yeah, yeah! Anyone who runs, is a VC. Anyone who stands still, is a well-disciplined VC! You guys oughta do a story about me sometime -
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...this guy.
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The only difference is, I'm afraid, we are the ones running around in the rice paddies this time. I hope I'm wrong. :o
Full Metal Jacket is one of my favorites.
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When this country finally comes to its collective senses, if it ever does, and stops with the Pollitically Correct bull****, we can deal with the real problems and rid ourselves of them. Until that happens, we will continue to have these events and be told that they are just everyday workplace misunderstandings. Islam is a "religion of peace", thats why Christians and Jews must convert or die. Thats why we must change everything about this country to accomodate people who come here but don't want to join us, they want to overtake us. /rant
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Is this just the beginning? With this nations strong Christian back ground & Islam's hatred towards us, I have to wonder why it hasn't happened sooner
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http://www.guns.com/2014/09/30/arkansas-firing-range-declares-itself-muslim-free-zone/ (http://www.guns.com/2014/09/30/arkansas-firing-range-declares-itself-muslim-free-zone/)
You would think religious beliefs wouldn't matter, I just don't know??? HMMMMM. I do see her point of view, of certain high risk people aren't allowed.
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These acts, like the beheading have a negative effect on Muslim relations, yet you never hear a Muslims condemning these actions, rather they won't talk about it or they celebrate it.
I watched a Fox news reporter outside the guy's mosque this morning, the people there wouldn't answer any questions and said he would have to leave or the authorities would be called. Now that would of been a good time to condemn his actions, it looks like they support what he did.
Of course I will always have the images after 9/11 of Muslims world wide celebrating and burning the American flag, that didn't leave a very good impression with me.
These actions are no way to get on our good side, maybe it's true that they just hate us, that can work both ways.
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I am a Catholic, I thought we had taken care of this around 1200 AD. maybe we should do it all over again.
I wonder what the Monty Python group is up to?
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farmer bob -
So how did you like the kansas city chief football game last night when one of the chiefs players who is muslim bowed down to mecca and gave thanks to allah in the endzone after scoring a touchdown in the 4th quarter?
NFL Forced Apologizes To Muslim Husain Abdullah Penalized For PRAYING (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZJLZq4QNfU#ws)
66bigblock
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OH MY! Is it okay to say Chiefs or do we say that KC football team. I'm not keeping up with my PC.
I just hope we don't get thrown in Barack's reeducation camp at the old drive in. :o :o
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When this country finally comes to its collective senses, if it ever does,
Currently the number of people getting government checks for not working exceeds the number working for their paychecks. They will also vote to continue the handouts. The squeeze on the working class will continue as more workers give up and decided to jump on board the gravy train. Illegal immigrants get a free ride on the gravy train because they are potential voters for the gravy train. The gravy train was built and supported by Democrats expressly to increase the number of dependents on government handouts and hence the number of voters who perpetually vote for Democrats so that their government checks will continue. When the value of the Dollar collapses because the administration has been printing $4T per years since our first affirmative action president took office, the gravy train will roll off the tracks and the SHTF scenario will occur. The president is hoping for a disaster so he can declare martial law and evoke E.O. 13603, which gives him, via his cabinet heads, complete control over everything in the US:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimpowell/2012/04/29/obamas-plan-to-seize-control-of-our-economy-and-our-lives/2/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimpowell/2012/04/29/obamas-plan-to-seize-control-of-our-economy-and-our-lives/2/)
To be sure, much of this language has appeared in national security executive orders that previous presidents have issued periodically since the beginning of the Cold War.
But more than previous national security executive orders, Obama’s 13603 seems to describe a potentially totalitarian regime obsessed with control over everything. Obama’s executive order makes no effort to justify the destruction of liberty, no effort to explain how amassing totalitarian control would enable government to deal effectively with cyber sabotage, suicide bombings, chemical warfare, nuclear missiles or other possible threats. It’s quite likely there would be greater difficulty responding to threats, since totalitarian regimes suffer from economic chaos, colossal waste, massive corruption and bureaucratic infighting that are inevitable consequences of extreme centralization. Such problems plagued fascist Italy, Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, communist China and other regimes. Totalitarian control would probably trigger resistance movements and underground networks like those that developed in Western Europe during the Nazi occupation. Totalitarian control could provoke more political turmoil than there was in the Vietnam War era of the 1960s. There would probably be a serious brain drain as talented people with critical skills escaped to freedom wherever that might be. Canada?
There’s nothing in executive order 13603 about upholding the Constitution or protecting civil liberties.
Oh, a Muslim doing a religious ritual following a touch down is OK (forget the nonsense about "sliding") but Tebow doing the same brought a huge outcry from the Left.