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General Categories => General Firearm Discussion => Topic started by: Husker_Fan on July 16, 2015, 04:00:48 PM
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It is sad that four Marines died today. It is too bad those present were not allowed the opportunity to defend themselves. (http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/07/16/4562c9b7688d1cfd860f60096d6cb57d.jpg)
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Afghanistan these guys get m4s. They come home disarmed and not allowed to carry any defence from the evil within our "castle" walls. Shame.
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Yes...I always thought that was odd to completely disarm your military personnel when they are stateside. Very odd. As soon as my wife told me about this shooting I told her that at least the Soldiers and Marines should be armed. Of course, my son is in the Army and my daughter is in the Marine Corps.
Fly
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We need to eliminate all "GUN FREE ZONES"!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We need to eliminate all "GUN FREE ZONES"!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This morning Fox news is really focusing on doing away with gun free zones & arming our military w/home
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Of course you are all correct, but it's an uphill battle when the "officials" literally don't know which way is up. Case in point: "Former FBI assistant director on Mohammad Abdulazeez: “We don’t know that it’s a Muslim name” http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/former-fbi-assistant-director-on-mohammad-abdulazeez-we-dont-know-that-its-a-muslim-name (http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/former-fbi-assistant-director-on-mohammad-abdulazeez-we-dont-know-that-its-a-muslim-name)
Many in our society have a stronger allegiance to Political Correctness and the Progressive Agenda than to the security and liberty of our nation. I know it's not a news flash, but it's more apparent then ever before.
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This is another one of the costs of liberalism being imposed on America as an official state religion.
They can't disarm us, so they disarm who they can: those who serve in the military. And they don't care one bit that their policy leads to the loss of innocent life. They'd impose the same thing on all of us if they could.
I remember seeing a program a few years ago (on the History Channel if I remember right) on something that happened after the battle for Iwo Jima. It was believed that the island was pacified, so the biggest part of the American military force was to be shipped out. Apparently there was some policy that soldiers would not be allowed to have ammo for their guns on the ship, so all of them were supposed to turn theirs in the night before the big move-out. Most followed orders and turned theirs in but some kept a little. It turned out that a sizeable force of Japanese was still hiding out, and that force made a massive suicide attack that night. A lot of Americans were killed because they had no ammo. Those that did have ammo managed to save lives. Eventually the Japanese force was put down. But a lot more Americans died than should have. You'd think someone might have learned a lesson from this senseless tragedy.
Based on what I've seen, the rule we have today about soldiers not being allowed to bear arms for their own defense was started on H W Bush's watch, and finished on Clinton's. The other Bush and Obama did not lift that edict. So as far as I'm concerned, all four of those Commanders-in-Chief are accessories to this crime (and others).
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http://gopthedailydose.com/2015/07/19/breaking-congress-passes-a-bill-to-allow-conceal-carry-on-military-bases/ (http://gopthedailydose.com/2015/07/19/breaking-congress-passes-a-bill-to-allow-conceal-carry-on-military-bases/)
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http://gopthedailydose.com/2015/07/19/breaking-congress-passes-a-bill-to-allow-conceal-carry-on-military-bases/ (http://gopthedailydose.com/2015/07/19/breaking-congress-passes-a-bill-to-allow-conceal-carry-on-military-bases/)
I wonder how many base commanders will allow CC on base and if it will be limited to military personnel only.
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Where you at "PETE"?
http://www.guns.com/2015/07/20/6-governors-do-away-with-gun-free-zones-at-military-facilities-in-wake-of-chattanooga-shooting/ (http://www.guns.com/2015/07/20/6-governors-do-away-with-gun-free-zones-at-military-facilities-in-wake-of-chattanooga-shooting/)
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hR3t7j2tUec (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hR3t7j2tUec)
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Oh there's Pete.
http://www.nebraska.tv/story/29591360/governor-ricketts-authorizes-adjutant-general-to-arm-additional-military-personnel (http://www.nebraska.tv/story/29591360/governor-ricketts-authorizes-adjutant-general-to-arm-additional-military-personnel)
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If I have a solid understanding here, the problem is that the facility attacked was a federal facility. The Governors have the power to arm the Guard units, but this does nothing for the federal facilities/installations. CC may be allowed on state property, but it is illegal on federal property.
Fly
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The recruiting stations are federal in each office, but the Guardsmen station (like the one here in Lincoln) is situated in the middle of the strip mall. Technically speaking, and depending on your interpretation of division of power and responsibility, the guardsmen working at the recruiting station could arm themselves and do so without fear of reprisal as their office answers to the governor.
That would be my thought process anyway:
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A thought about the soldiers who were killed.
after the people in the church were killed, didn't sparklefart have all the federal flags lowered to half staff? I seem to remember that he did, but none were lowered for the soldiers who were killed? something aint right here
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but none were lowered for the soldiers who were killed
Mine was and remains so, and sparklefart can kiss my ass
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I recall the SC governor having flags in the state lowered because one of those killed was a state senator.
Still, I have no idea why they aren't lowered now. Like Dan, I lowered mine.
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