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General Categories => General Firearm Discussion => Topic started by: huskersforever on September 21, 2016, 11:04:13 PM
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Not sure if any of you have seen this story about the owner of DE guns and him building a range and possibly a bar. Is there a law on the books about the use of a firearm and drinking? I know there is with a conceal permit, but can't locate anything on using a firearm while drinking (logic tells me this is illegal but I don't see any laws)
http://www.1011now.com/content/news/Daycare-worried-over-neighbors-shooting-range-394219421.html
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Wherever there is a bar there are people drinking who have car keys in their pocket; I would think that the same common sense would apply in both cases. I say common sense instead of law because the law treats gun possession as though it is more dangerous than driving, and more of a privilege instead of more of a right. Common sense would say go to the range and burn up some ammo and then go to the bar and have a drink with your friends, and don't drive if you have drank too much.
So is it a good idea? For most people yes. For some? Well, there are those who will find a way to screw up about anything.
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Upstairs at tactial 88. they have some way of serving liquor. have to put guns into there safe room to do that. and isn't the new range off 82 and center going to have a restaurant and booze?
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just because they serve alcohol doesn't mean anyone is shooting while drunk or even drinking it at all.
also, im kinda surprised since he is a Class 3 dealer that his friends don't all have suppressors.
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At least two trap/skeet ranges (1-public; 1-private) in and around the Omaha area legally serve beer.
Firm Range Rules: Shoot first; sip later.
sfg
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Carrying concealed into an eating establishment is a loaded gun, ready to go off in your face.
As many have noted before:http://nebraskalegislature.gov/laws/statutes.php?statute=69-2441 (http://nebraskalegislature.gov/laws/statutes.php?statute=69-2441):
establishment having a license issued under the Nebraska Liquor Control Act that derives over one-half of its total income from the sale of alcoholic liquor
So, when you walk into an eating establishment that also serves liquor, and it's not posted, do you expect to see a sign warning you that their liquor sales exceed 50% of their total business? I've never seen such a sign. Or, do you seek out the proprietor and ask him or her? I've never heard of anyone doing that either. And, per chance, an event happens which requires you to defend yourself (or others if you so choose) but some zealous prosecutor obtains sales info from the bar and uses it to prosecute you. What do you do? Never carry in eating establishments that also serve liquor even if they are not posted?
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Carrying concealed into an eating establishment is a loaded gun, ready to go off in your face.
As many have noted before:http://nebraskalegislature.gov/laws/statutes.php?statute=69-2441 (http://nebraskalegislature.gov/laws/statutes.php?statute=69-2441):
So, when you walk into an eating establishment that also serves liquor, and it's not posted, do you expect to see a sign warning you that their liquor sales exceed 50% of their total business? I've never seen such a sign. Or, do you seek out the proprietor and ask him or her? I've never heard of anyone doing that either. And, per chance, an event happens which requires you to defend yourself (or others if you so choose) but some zealous prosecutor obtains sales info from the bar and uses it to prosecute you. What do you do? Never carry in eating establishments that also serve liquor even if they are not posted?
Good points, as usual. I would just respond by saying that I'd rather be prosecuted for saving my life than not be prosecuted for having not saved my life. There are gray areas though I suppose.
If it's legal to go into a place that gets over half its income from alcohol with car keys in your pocket it should be legal to go into one with a gun in a holster. After all, drunk drivers kill far more people than drunk shooters, and bearing arms is a right, while driving is a privilege (as I have been reminded of a few times).
This is one of many things that should be fixed, but will not be fixed until there is a majority of loyal Americans in our legislature. And this is why it's important to get loyal Americans elected into the legislature: no more Democrats and no more RINOs.
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88 Tactical will serve alcohol in their Founder's Club. There is sign posted at THAT entrance disallowing firearms. When you enter the club and you choose to consume alcohol, they will take your member or guest ID card and swipe it to DISALLOW you back on the ranges (everything is key card entry). As for your gun(s), PRIOR to entry you can store in your vehicle or there is security room next to the Club for firearms storage with gun lockers for rent.
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Izaak Walton League in Lincoln serves alcohol. They have a sign up saying as soon as you get a drink you're done shooting for the day.
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It's not a new trend, but the "guntry club" thing comes up more and more as new ranges are being built.
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Not a proponent but I can tell you that Iowa allows ccw holders to patronize a liquor serving establishment be it a bar or restraunt and bar and drink provided you stay under the .08 level which would disqualify you to be able to drive also. The state takes what they believe to be a common sense approach to the law putting the responsibility on the carrier to make the appropriate choice. My approach during these instances since I do frequent restraunits in Iowa that serve alcohol is to not drink. Nor do I any time I am armed which is almost always so I don't drink much. I see it as dulling my edge if a situation goes south that I may need to react to. Just my .02
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.... approach to the law putting the responsibility on the carrier to make the appropriate choice. My approach during these instances since I do frequent restaurants in Iowa that serve alcohol is to not drink....
While I do occasionally like a glass of white wine, the last time I imbibed any alcohol was about 25years ago. I find that as I get older my brain and liver cells don't need any help deteriorating.
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Omaha Gun Club, 82nd and Center will have an area upstairs designated as the "VIP Lanes and Lounge" where adult beverages will be available 'after' shooting. OmahaGunClub.com