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General Categories => General Firearm Discussion => Topic started by: depserv on September 30, 2016, 11:06:13 PM

Title: Self defense 12 gauge shell
Post by: depserv on September 30, 2016, 11:06:13 PM

http://controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/new-12-gauge-ammo-creates-holes-bigger-than-your-fist/?utm_source=GNF

Anyone familiar with these things?

Title: Re: Self defense 12 gauge shell
Post by: shooter on September 30, 2016, 11:27:44 PM

 saw those before, looks like a lawyers dream,   

Title: Re: Self defense 12 gauge shell
Post by: BranchMillardian on October 01, 2016, 08:22:39 AM

If it's a good shoot, it's a good shoot. But I think shooter is right, in this day and age it's all about public perception. Especially if it came down to a civil case.

Two other cons;

1. Availabilty and Price: http://www.oathammo.com/tango-shotgun-round
Sorry, but almost $10 a shell? I haven't bought any in a couple of years, but I recall the low recoil Hornady 00 Buck shells I bought were about $1 each. $45 buys a very nice mix of buck and slugs for just about any defensive scenario I can think of.

2. I'm not impressed by the gel tests I found. Only 10" of penetration? I'm a fan of putting holes through vitals. I'd be very concerned about reaching those vitals to produce a stop. They went for massive expansion over penetration. It also wouldn't surprise me to find out shooting through heavy clothing causes premature expansion and penetration depth is even lower.

Title: Re: Self defense 12 gauge shell
Post by: depserv on October 01, 2016, 10:18:41 AM

Good points my friends.  $10 per shot would do more than recoil to make me flinch.  And a standard slug or buckshot load has such good stopping power it doesn't really need to be improved on. 

Title: Re: Self defense 12 gauge shell
Post by: Kendahl on October 01, 2016, 01:15:07 PM

Cost aside, I'd rather have buckshot that penetrated to the optimum depth of 12" to 18".