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General Categories => General Firearm Discussion => Topic started by: NE Bull on June 01, 2012, 06:57:16 PM
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This is cruisin round the net but thought I'd share with ya'll. Crazy man, Crazy.
God Bless her.
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That holster seems better suited for the range than daily carry. Oh well, good for her!
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Now i get the significance of your text lol
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Not "cocked and locked"???
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That holster seems better suited for the range than daily carry. Oh well, good for her!
Just curious, what makes you think it's not suitable for open carry but suitable for the range?
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Not cocked and locked, muzzle about to shoot her in the hand. His comment about that type of holster is zero retention and any passer by can snatch the gun.
Totally staged, what time of day can you take a picture in WalMart and only show 2 people in an aisle?
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Amazing. You HAVE to carry it loaded, cocked and locked? What happened to carrying with an empty chamber, hammer down. The Israelis seem to do well that way. Shoot her hand, then I am going to have to get rid of my IWB holster because if the safety fails, I will shoot myself in the leg.
Let's keep an open mind. The positive, whether it is staged or not, is that it is showing open carry in a large store. (By the way, I was in The Big Box store at 0130, and there was only the stockers there. I guess, a Lady wouldn't shop at night.)
Remember there are more ways than one to carry a firearm. If she isn't comfortable cocked and locked, then that should be HER priority, not someone who maybe uses a weapon full time or not.
Oh while I am thinking of it, I usually train up to 200 staff members per year with firearms, and some years more.
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Not cocked and locked, muzzle about to shoot her in the hand. His comment about that type of holster is zero retention and any passer by can snatch the gun.
Leaving out my opinion on whether it is a good choice of holster, it does look like a SERPA holster, so there is more than passive retention.
Agreed about the cocked and locked, which tells you something about the person both carrying and behind the camera.
Disagree about the "muzzle about to shoot her in the hand"---aren't all belt holsters (unless they are drop-leg) like that? Unless we are talking about IWB, whereupon our hands aren't what is being muzzled?
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Is that a Serpa holster? If so, retention isn't so much an issue.
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OBVIOUSLY NOT a walmart.
The floor is far too clean...
66bigblock
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Must be one of the Yuppy Walmarts. Look she has Yogurt and Fruit juice. WHAT? NO BACON!!!!??? What kind of staged honky is this??!!!
I would much rather carry in my Fobus than my Kholster. more comfortable, same amount of retention. But the Fobus is just harder to conceal. Actually I carried that way for the first winter, then move IWB come spring. With the Serpa 'lock button' there should be no question as to retention.
As for cocked n locked. who cares? Look, here is an older woman who obviously has decided to NOT BE A VICTIM, of violence OR obesity OR diegestive trac issues. Just that beautiful weapon being open carried by such a woman shall itself ward off any doers of evil.
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here is an older woman who obviously has decided to NOT BE A VICTIM, of violence OR obesity OR diegestive trac issues.
Classic!
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Well, if it is a Serpa then she's about to be shot in the leg, not the hand.
;D ;D ;D ;D
**backs slowly out of room**
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I was going to go there, but decided not to :)
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Oh as for why there is no one else in the aisle? There's a Freekin' Lady With A Gun! That's why. They have all ran and hid behind the pomegranate and kiwi and are dialing 911 to report a WWG! There others are berating the store owner on why that 'thing' was allowed into the store and that they DEMAND one of those little 'no gun allowed signs' be installed at the front doors, so that this scary situation will never happen again.
As for the fella in the background? He is an active NFOA member about to ask her to coffee and if she has heard about the NFOA and that we would be appreciate her membership and input. He just had to run back to his car to find a pamphlet, you can see it in his hand.
Of course it very well could be staged. I mean who the heck really eats bagels? :P
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"I mean who the heck really eats bagels?"
Maybe she is Mossad (for those of you from Rio Linda.... Jews eat bagels....get it..get it???) And yes, I am part Jew in case any of you are offended.....
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Here is where that picture comes from...and you're not going to like it.
http://gunvictimsaction.org/fact-sheet/fact-sheet-open-carry-movement/ (http://gunvictimsaction.org/fact-sheet/fact-sheet-open-carry-movement/)
Fly
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It's from all over, not original to that evil website.
http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,2000412_2158678,00.html (http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,2000412_2158678,00.html)
Perhaps the woman is in California which only allows unloaded open carry.
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http://www.freelibertywriters.com/bruce-krafft/2012/3/1/journalistic-psh-from-utah.html (http://www.freelibertywriters.com/bruce-krafft/2012/3/1/journalistic-psh-from-utah.html)
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Ahhh good! Glad to know it was not initially propaganda from an anti-gun organization. Though they are sure trying to turn it into a negative. Who would have guessed.
Fly
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Wow, they're actually allowed to put "fact sheet" on this pile of crap article about open carry?
Open carry proponents are becoming more emboldened by the media coverage their events generate, and the absence of any organized counter effort to remind Americans that the open carrying of firearms:
- Creates deliberate confusion for the public and law enforcement as no one can be sure that the carrier is doing so legally, or is a criminal with violent intent.
- Threatens the safety of children and others from accidental shootings
- Creates difficulties for police who are trained to assume that anyone armed is a potential threat
- Provides no protection to open carriers who primarily carry in safe, suburban and rural areas where the threat of violence is essentially zero
- Pits the rights of a paranoid minority against the safety of the majority of Americans who recognize that the risks of openly carried handguns far outweigh the potential benefits
"Deliberate confusion?" Yes, the entire reason people open carry is to confuse you and make you wonder if you're about to get attacked! Jeeze, and we're the paranoid ones? Not to mention, what criminal open carries? LOL. They illegally concealed carry because they don't want people to know they're armed. Who wrote this?
Threatens the safety of children? How? I had a friend say this to me the other day about concealed carry. "You wouldn't concealed carry around children would you?" Yeah, I would, why? "Well that's dangerous!!" I really don't get where this feeling comes from. Is it because people are more protective of children that they freak out when guns are anywhere near children? It's not like I'm handing my gun to the kid to let him or her play with it. It's in a holster, hidden under my clothing, and it's secure and under control. There is virtually no danger there. This seems paranoid to me.
Police are trained to think that anyone armed is a potential threat? Well, yeah, that makes sense because it is a potential threat. It has the potential to be a threat. So does every other person out there. However, the police are there to enforce the law. They should know what the laws are to properly enforce them. If they don't, they need to be re-trained. If open carry is legal, there's no reason these people should be treated differently, they've done nothing wrong.
Provides no protection? Yeah, cuz muggings, rape, and assault only happen in the hood. ::)
Well, I would think that if the majority of Americans recognized that the risks of open carry outweighed potential benefits it wouldn't be legal in all those states now would it?
I'm not even a big fan of open carry but man this is so full of garbage. It even goes on to talk about how Starbucks is ENDANGERING their customers by allowing open carry and it shows a picture of open carriers in California. Yes, an unloaded handgun with no magazine in it and an empty chamber is clearly a danger. It could accidentally fall out of the holster and land on someone's foot! Ignorance really must be bliss to some.
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As for the danger to Children and to answer the question posed to you. During a 'official LEO contact" in which I was caught NOT carrying, the officer asked if I wasn't because I had my kids with me. I answered that those two precious little humans in my pickup are the REASON I carry. He just smile and nodded and I left there with a warning, some friendly advice and a great deal of mutual respect.
If you take up carrying a personal firearm, be sure you are carrying it for the right reasons. Mine are 10 and 12!
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My, "cocked and locked" comment was only to stir the pot....worked.... >:D
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Something to consider:
Those of us that are around and familiar with guns generally have no problems with seeing guns.
Even having said that, I see instances of people with guns that make me nervous (handling and safety issues).
People that have little gun experience (and make up a larger group of the people out there), see guns in a different perspective. Media plays guns in an intimidating way for a variety of emotions. There of people that will play on those emotions to get what they want out of people.
What is seen as positive by one group can be pushed to negative in the other group.
Although education and familiarity can increase the positive side, there are still those that will unreasonably cling to the negative side...a fear fostered by insufficient education.
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Although education and familiarity can increase the positive side, there are still those that will unreasonably cling to the negative side...a fear fostered by insufficient education.
Willful ignorance is a factor as well.