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Title: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: gsd on March 14, 2013, 08:24:12 PM
Well after watching a dozen videos a dozen times I thought I would be able to tear down my MKIII.

I was wrong. Now the carrier group binds up, mags bind up, and I didn't even get the dang thing all the way stripped.

Anyone experienced in these enough to tackle it for me? I will gladly buy you the hot or cold beverage of your choice, a couple times.

Dave
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: Tim McBride on March 14, 2013, 09:05:12 PM
Wrong side of the state.
Which steps did you do already?
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: gsd on March 14, 2013, 09:45:40 PM
I tripped the catch on the backstrap to pull the bolt stop pin out,  and that be as far as I got. Upper wouldn't come off, so I got fed up and put it back together. Thats when the mags and bolt started binding.
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: Ghost on March 14, 2013, 10:11:47 PM
I have a Mk III 22/45, and it gave me fits on teardown and reassembly until I removed the mag safety.

This site has some good photos for Mk III teardown and reassembly.  You can click on each photo to get it to enlarge.

http://guntalk-online.com/fsprocedures.htm (http://guntalk-online.com/fsprocedures.htm)

Ghost
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: OnTheFly on March 14, 2013, 10:14:04 PM
The instructions that Ghost of the Past provided are very similar to the Mk I.  To get my barrel/receiver to separate from the grip, I have to place the back of the receiver on a padded surface (I use an old mouse pad) and push down on the front of the grip.  If it hasn't been torn down ever (or for a long time), they can be kind of difficult to separate.

The part I dread is getting the bolt pin and mainspring back in.  Sometimes I nail it right of the bat, and other times I wrestle with it for 30 minutes.

Fly
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: OnTheFly on March 14, 2013, 10:26:25 PM
Pretty good video here...

http://youtu.be/ywcLCXU0V6k (http://youtu.be/ywcLCXU0V6k)

Fly
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: gsd on March 14, 2013, 10:41:23 PM
Fly...that was one of the ones I watched.
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: OnTheFly on March 14, 2013, 10:43:37 PM
Fly...that was one of the ones I watched.

So you got the main spring released and swung out? Did you get the hammer spring out?

Fly
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: gsd on March 14, 2013, 10:49:44 PM
Not sure. Got the stop pin out on the back and got aggravated after that.
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: 00BUCK on March 14, 2013, 11:11:45 PM
It's been a while since I've had my 22/45 apart but if I remember correctly you have to insert the mag, safety off, pull the trigger - then you can get the bolt to go into place. Remove the mag, insert the mainspring / stop pin, tilt the muzzle of the pistol up so that the mainspring rod goes where it should and lock it up.

It is a pain but once you get the hang of it it is pretty easy.
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: OnTheFly on March 14, 2013, 11:12:45 PM
Can you post a picture of where you are at?  That video was SPOT ON in regards to the common problems.  I have had to push down VERY hard on the hammer spring to get the pin to release.  I have also struggled with getting the bolt out, until I simply pulled and held the trigger to get that annoying little pin inside the frame to swing out of the way.  Many times you can get that pin to move out of the way by pointing the gun up at an angle while pulling the trigger.

Sorry, I am several hundred miles from my Mk I so I am trying to do all this by memory.

Fly
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: RobertH on March 15, 2013, 05:46:23 AM
i had problems with my MkIII, but i finally got it.  if you need help we can try to meet up some time.
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: Ghost on March 15, 2013, 09:10:01 AM
The Mk III's are kind of quirky to get back together correctly.  I live in NE Lincoln.  You're welcome to bring it by and I'll try to help if I can.  Shoot me a PM if I can help.

Ghost
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: gsd on March 15, 2013, 11:06:18 AM
I may take you up on that. I love the gun, and with my wrist jacked up it is about the only thing I can shoot comfortably.
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: abbafandr on March 15, 2013, 07:44:05 PM
I got rid of a Ruger Standard because it was a PITA to reassemble.  Shame that after making these critters for over 60 years they can't fix this.   :(
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: OnTheFly on March 15, 2013, 11:57:47 PM
I got rid of a Ruger Standard because it was a PITA to reassemble.  Shame that after making these critters for over 60 years they can't fix this.   :(

I know what your saying. Though I believe once you learn the "tricks" of reassembly, it is no big deal. The only problem is that every time I try to reassemble mine I have to relearn those tricks all over again. A lot of forehead slapping every time.

Fly
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: abbafandr on March 16, 2013, 06:31:19 AM
I know what your saying. Though I believe once you learn the "tricks" of reassembly, it is no big deal. The only problem is that every time I try to reassemble mine I have to relearn those tricks all over again. A lot of forehead slapping every time.
 
Can't teach an old dog new tricks :laugh:
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: Hank on March 17, 2013, 09:01:10 PM
I know what your saying. Though I believe once you learn the "tricks" of reassembly, it is no big deal. The only problem is that every time I try to reassemble mine I have to relearn those tricks all over again. A lot of forehead slapping every time.

Fly
Couldn`t have said it better myself!  Second time around was definately easier than the first though.
Title: Re: Ruger MKIII issues...help?
Post by: gsd on March 17, 2013, 09:04:33 PM
I sent it back to Ruger today. My blood pressure was getting too high, so I just decided to let Ruger deal with it. The spring on the top of the carrier was a solid line caked with carbon deposits. I doubt this thing had ever been fully cleaned.