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General Categories => General Firearm Discussion => Topic started by: equinox137 on March 16, 2013, 12:44:20 PM
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There is no commonly used ammunition (9mm, 40 S&W, etc) available in any stores at all in the Omaha area. Is this an Omaha problem or is this everywhere?
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I've seen 40 SW a little more lately. 9mm is still impossible. I heard Guns Unlimited had a pallet last week but someone here mentioned it sold out immediately.
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Some 380 is available, some 40 pops up occasionally, but like Jerry said, ain't crap for anything else.
I just watched a guy pay 0.14 per round for .22 on GunBroker this morning.
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Considering buying a .380 just so I have something to shoot.
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I did the same while fondling a marlin 336 in 30-30. Seems like that and 7mm and 270 are the only rifle calibers available.
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Kinda funny how there's always JHPs available though...
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and lets not even go into .223/5.56
lol
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I've been on leave all week and have been making a daily morning trip to cabelas. On Tuesday they had 9mm CCI aluminum, Wednesday there was PMC and PPU 223 and Herters brass 9mm. Thursday they had CCI Blazer brass 9mm and 100 round packs of CCI 22LR ~1200 FPS. didn't go yesterday in disgust. All the 9mm sold out by 9:45-10:00 each day.
there's always one or two guys on the phone being coached and they end up walking away with a handful of ammo that they most likely dont know how to use.
also there is the socialist 5 box total limit on centerfire ammo and 100 round total limit on 22 LR.
tons of 40 and tons of 45
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I've been on leave all week and have been making a daily morning trip to cabelas. On Tuesday they had 9mm CCI aluminum, Wednesday there was PMC and PPU 223 and Herters brass 9mm. Thursday they had CCI Blazer brass 9mm and 100 round packs of CCI 22LR ~1200 FPS. didn't go yesterday in disgust. All the 9mm sold out by 9:45-10:00 each day.
there's always one or two guys on the phone being coached and they end up walking away with a handful of ammo that they most likely dont know how to use.
also there is the socialist 5 box total limit on centerfire ammo and 100 round total limit on 22 LR.
tons of 40 and tons of 45
They either put a limit on it (rationing) or let the price go up. That's really the only way to deal with a shortage. I'm guessing they made a business decision to keep prices at pre-hoarding levels to avoid pissing people off and risk pissing them off with bare shelves or purchase limits.
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I stopped at Scheels yesterday and they had quite a bit of .38 Spl and .45 WWB. Other than that, just some premium defense loads and that's it. No .22 lr.
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Put a notification on some of the deal sites for 9mm or cabelas. Slickdeals.net is the one i frequent. I've gotten a couple orders in at cabelas online at various times. Ship to store is free, and I've gotten about 1k rounds at $13-$16 per 50. Still have a couple boxes on back order too. Not awesome, but not super expensive. I got lucky and got a order in before they put in the 5box limit online. Other than that I got lucky and found two boxes of wwb 9mm at Walmart but that's on one out of nearly a dozen trips....
So my dad and I have ammo to go to the range a couple times and a decent backup stash. Haven't felt like ponying up the $$$ for defensive ammo though. Glad I bought several boxes of .22lr when it was on sale a year ago...
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Oh and I should mention that if they don't have purchase limits, resellers will buy all the stock in nothing flat. Limits may actually help end the shortage/run sooner by spreading out the supply and making reselling a little harder...
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www.gunbot.net (http://www.gunbot.net)
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Pretty much any type of ammo is experiencing a shortage right now, due to very heavy demand. It is near impossible to find a decent price. My strategy is to "wait it out". Prices will go back down, and all will be readily available once the "scare" is over and people stop buying every round they see.
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I checked out that gunbot.net site. Looks like mostly gouging and scalping to me.
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Anyone seeing 30.06 locally? Just looking for 40 rounds or so.
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Every Wal Mart I've been to in Lincoln and Omaha area recently has it, .270 and some 30-30. About all they have consistently....
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we know all the stores get ammo its just that people camp out till they come out on the selves...
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I checked out that gunbot.net site. Looks like mostly gouging and scalping to me.
All it does is aggregate information from other web sites. It searches out what other retailers are charging and provides a link. It's a great way to find a good deal when one pops up.
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All it does is aggregate information from other web sites. It searches out what other retailers are charging and provides a link. It's a great way to find a good deal when one pops up.
And then their website goes into complete meltdown because 10 million people are trying to add ammo to their "cart" at the same time.
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Anyone seeing 30.06 locally? Just looking for 40 rounds or so.
Define "locally" ? I was at Scheel's - Omaha / Village Point this afternoon and there was at least 60 to 70 boxes of 30.06 by various manufacturers / bullet weight. You should be able to pick up 40 rds out of the selection on the shelf.
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Several of the Omaha area Walmarts received ammo shipments tonight. The one by my house (Irvington) puts it out as they get it unloaded and as of 8:30 tonight had probably at least 15 50rnd boxes of Federal 9mm, 5 100rnd packs of 9mm, 3 boxes of .40, and I just missed 2 1000rnd boxes of Winchester M22. I picked up one box of .40 and one 100rnd pack of 9mm.
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Several of the Omaha area Walmarts received ammo shipments tonight. The one by my house (Irvington) puts it out as they get it unloaded and as of 8:30 tonight had probably at least 15 50rnd boxes of Federal 9mm, 5 100rnd packs of 9mm, 3 boxes of .40, and I just missed 2 1000rnd boxes of Winchester M22. I picked up one box of .40 and one 100rnd pack of 9mm.
ugh... I almost started walking for the door.
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Several of the Omaha area Walmarts received ammo shipments tonight. The one by my house (Irvington) puts it out as they get it unloaded and as of 8:30 tonight had probably at least 15 50rnd boxes of Federal 9mm, 5 100rnd packs of 9mm, 3 boxes of .40, and I just missed 2 1000rnd boxes of Winchester M22. I picked up one box of .40 and one 100rnd pack of 9mm.
An this is why I go at 4am an have been picking up 5.56, 9mm, or .40 almost every time. :)
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An this is why I go at 4am an have been picking up 5.56, 9mm, or .40 almost every time. :)
And not sharing dammit:D
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I just left Walmart on 132nd and they had 2 boxes of ww45 and about four boxes of federal 45. Lots of 38 special. No .22
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An this is why I go at 4am an have been picking up 5.56, 9mm, or .40 almost every time. :)
thats a little ridiculous... but i guess thats me since i value my sleep lol
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thats a little ridiculous... but i guess thats me since i value my sleep lol
I get off work at 3am so works great no crowds.
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I get off work at 3am so works great no crowds.
well that makes more sense thought you actually woke up and went to walmart lol
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I get off work at 3am so works great no crowds.
Which Walmart has ammo at 4AM? I'd be willing to get a little early on occasion for a decent ammo deal. :)
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Which Walmart has ammo at 4AM? I'd be willing to get a little early on occasion for a decent ammo deal. :)
Wherever it is, you'll see me walking out at 0355, hehe.
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Here in McCook we are seeing more and more Denver folks coming here to buy ammo only to be let down cause all we have is shot gun shells and some 270 rounds and thats about it.
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I usually hit the one on 27th an the one by the event center because there on my way home a couple days a week.
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Define "locally" ? I was at Scheel's - Omaha / Village Point this afternoon and there was at least 60 to 70 boxes of 30.06 by various manufacturers / bullet weight. You should be able to pick up 40 rds out of the selection on the shelf.
Ha, I guess I forgot to put Omaha area.
Thanks for the replies about the ammo. I didn't want to drive all over creation to find 2 boxes...
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Has anyone seen any bulk packs of cheap slugs around town? I'm looking for a bunch to practice with. Does anyone have some they're willing to part with, or any slug reloaders? I've got tons of high brass, but haven't gotten into reloading for the shotgun, yet.
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bulk packs of cheap slugs around town
Can't say about "bulk" packs. I have found the 5 slug / 12 ga packs of "Military Grade" ammo at Dick's for about $7.00 per pack. Yeah, I know - Dick's (spit)....
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Have you ever tried this?
http://youtu.be/k3M46XVfVOU (http://youtu.be/k3M46XVfVOU)
Fly
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OK, that was not the meanest thing I have ever seen, but pretty darn close!
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Part 2
Lost Arts Part 2- Improvised Shotgun Slugs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crOg6YvBeXk#ws)
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There's ballistic gel tests of cut shells. It is NOT favorable towards cut shells.
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There's ballistic gel tests of cut shells. It is NOT favorable towards cut shells.
Indeed, but I still would not want to be the intended target of one. And, considering how the #8 shot spreads out at 25 yds, the damage of a cut shell, by comparison, appears to be much greater.
http://youtu.be/lGwGI0IMSgI (http://youtu.be/lGwGI0IMSgI)
Here is the 1 0zz slug gel test. I definitely would NOT want to be hit by it!
http://youtu.be/7HuVkXLreWE (http://youtu.be/7HuVkXLreWE)
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I only watched the second video..pretty neat Grey. I cut one of those slugs open probably close to 20 years ago (think I still have it too), and was kind of surprised to find a good portion of the bottom side to be open/hollow. Even more surprised that it penetrated that 4x4 like that.
Good Video.
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Well, I hope Cabelas, Bass Pro, et al....are on these ammo manufacturers. I cant speak for everyone, but personally, I refuse to buy anything from these places until they start stocking ammo again. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way and that's got to be hurting their bottom line.
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Well, I hope Cabelas, Bass Pro, et al....are on these ammo manufacturers. I cant speak for everyone, but personally, I refuse to buy anything from these places until they start stocking ammo again. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way and that's got to be hurting their bottom line.
Why would you do that? I have no doubt that Cabela's, Bass Pro, and anywhere else would stock the ammo if they had it. It's obvious even just from the posts on this board that as soon as any comes in it gets snapped up in a matter of hours. Unless you have some type of information that suggests the big retailers are holding things back for some reason (and I can't imagine why they would do that), I don't see why boycotting them will do anything at all. These guys are in the business of selling stuff. They can't sell it if they don't have it to put on the shelves.
It seems to me, things might actually be getting better. A guy pointed out to me that Cabela's is now letting you order ammo on line again. For a while it was "in store only" and obviously nothing was left in the stores. I didn't see any much 9mm or .223, but they seemed to have at least some on line availability for common calibers.
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Well, I hope Cabelas, Bass Pro, et al....are on these ammo manufacturers. I cant speak for everyone, but personally, I refuse to buy anything from these places until they start stocking ammo again. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way and that's got to be hurting their bottom line.
Pretty sure they are not stocking it because they can't get it. And what they do get flies off the shelf in a matter of minutes.
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You can find 223 ammo at lucky gunner.com no hornady or black hills but they have federal,lake city, PMC in stock. Some of the federal is quality ammo the lake city is bulk250 to 500 rounds green tip m855 all brass is annealed, the PMC I'm not sure about never tried it(heard bad things). Prices are reasonable to kind of high, the lake city is about a buck a shot the federal about 1.50 to1.75 a shot. ( the lake city may be 5.56)
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I've been trying a couple GunBroker.com auctions on stuff I need or want. I get outbid when my maximum is the previously normal price.
However, today I found that my bid on 2 8rd Nano mags won! When I called the seller he said he had one more, "did I want it?". "How much?", I asked. "$35" "Sure!" Beretta is advertising them on their web site at $38 each, but they are never in stock. My price for 3 was $37.67 each.
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Well, I hope Cabelas, Bass Pro, et al....are on these ammo manufacturers. I cant speak for everyone, but personally, I refuse to buy anything from these places until they start stocking ammo again. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way and that's got to be hurting their bottom line.
I can speak from experience of putting it on Cabela's shelves that we get it. It's sporadic at best but if you aren't there early in the day then there is a good chance it will be gone. There are limits on how much you can buy, this way the prices don't get jacked up. With supply scarce and demand high one way to keep prices low is to limit quantities per person, otherwise you have to raise prices substantially to keep the same people from buying up the whole shelf.
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I snagged a gun I really do not need on Gun Broker. I placed a minimum bid and forgot all about it, till I won, and they emailed me. My wife was thrilled! lol Should be here in a week or so.
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I snagged a gun
What caught your fancy?
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There's ballistic gel tests of cut shells. It is NOT favorable towards cut shells.
I'll betcha they beat the tar outa #8 birdshot (He did specify "improvised", did he not?
Were I to have to hunt Bambi for a living (failure = starvation), and I have a 12 gauge dove load and a 9mm pistol ...... I'll get my pocket knife out. I can get to 25 yards.
Well, I hope Cabelas, Bass Pro, et al....are on these ammo manufacturers. I cant speak for everyone, but personally, I refuse to buy anything from these places until they start stocking ammo again. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way and that's got to be hurting their bottom line.
Cabela's will sell you what they can make money on, without pissing you off as a future customer (as opposed to Cheaper Than Dirt $99 P-Mags) ...... if you feel a need to be pissed, be pissed at yourself, for not laying in a supply ahead of time, or not learning to handload*, or diversify your caliber needs .... OR, be pissed the at the Fed.gov for buying up ammo manufactureint capacity by making purchase orders of SEVERAL BILLION ROUNDS AT A TIME, far in excess of the immediate requirements ........ IME, THAT is at the very bottom of the list of stuff I am pissed a the the Fed.gov for.......
*If you do not handload, and wish to learn, I am willing to mentor ...... you buy the equipment and components, and I am more than willing to come and play "coach".
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hunt Bambi for a living (failure = starvation),
When I was teaching at Clarks HS I was the second highest paid teacher in the school, except for the wrestling coach who'd been there a dozen years and married into the community. I took home $700 a month. That was after I quite my 2nd job as deputy marshal because the marshal was too dangerous to be around when he had a gun in his possession. During the Arab oil embargo propane was costing $600/month, leaving no room for food, barely enough for electricity and gas. etc... I lived out in the country five miles from Clarks and I took my shotgun and went hunting once or twice a week for meat: pheasant, rabbits, squirrels. I took the shotgun and not the .22 because I didn't want to come home and face the wife and kids with an excuse instead of meat.
In today's economic climate there may be many who think they will shoot to eat, but will bypass much available food: worms, bait fish, dull looking insects, rodents, any kind of bird, favoring instead pheasant, squirrel, rabbit, turkey, doves and deer. Four years ago I purchased two pneumatic air rifles, the manually pumping and break barrel kind, along with several thousand rounds of pellets for each. The rifles are scoped and accurately group shots in a 1/2" bull at 30 yards. I can take a lot of really small game. A rat or mouse may not have much meat but a dozen of them will have enough. Nightcrawlers are 78% protein and when they are gutted and boiled in several changes of water the slime coat goes away and the worm is cooked. Deep fat fry them afterwards and salt them and they taste like shoe string potato chips.
When I taught at York College the biology prof and I offered to get fish for the faculty fish fry. We went to Sack's Lake. The biggest fish there were crappie and bluegill, six inches long at the most. They were so hungry we could toss in gold hooks without bait and they bite them. We just yanked them out of the water and onto the bank behind us. Many times the hook fell out and it went immediately back into the water. After 30 minutes we had 200 fish. Each one, when filleted, would give from one teaspoon to one tablespoon of meat per side. 400 spoonfuls of meat made good eating for 25 faculty members. It was a great fry. But, in times of stress I would use a seine instead of a hook and line, and I'd set it at one place in a creek or stream and go back a hundred or more feet and splash my way slowly toward the net.
Pond scum soup is delicious. Tastes like split pea soup. Scoop some green stuff off the top of a pond, with water, and boil it down to 1/3rd. Add water and boil down a couple more times. On the third time the final boil down gives you the soup. You can toss in some previously cooked fish or rodent or pheasant during the final boil. That soup will let you gain weight.
Food is food.
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When I was teaching at Clarks HS I was the second highest paid teacher in the school, except for the wrestling coach who'd been they a dozen years and married into the community. I took home $700 a month. That was after I quite my 2nd job as deputy marshal because the marshal was too dangerous to be around when he had a gun in his possession. During the Arab oil embargo propane was costing $600/month, leaving no room for food, barely enough for electricity and gas. etc... I lived out in the country five miles from Clarks and I took my shotgun and went hunting once or twice a week for meat: pheasant, rabbits, squirrels. I took the shotgun and not the .22 because I didn't want to come home and face the wife and kids with an excuse instead of meat.
In today's economic climate there may be many who think they will shoot to eat, but will bypass much available food: worms, bait fish, dull looking insects, rodents, any kind of bird, favoring instead pheasant, squirrel, rabbit, turkey, doves and deer. Four years ago I purchased two pneumatic air rifles, the manually pumping and break barrel kind, along with several thousand rounds of pellets for each. The rifles are scoped and accurately group shots in a 1/2" bull at 30 yards. I can take a lot of really small game. A rat or mouse may not have much meat but a dozen of them will have enough. Nightcrawlers are 78% protein and when they are gutted and boiled in several changes of water the slime coat goes away and the worm is cooked. Deep fat fry them afterwards and salt them and they taste like shoe string potato chips.
When I taught at York College the biology prof and I offered to get fish for the faculty fish fry. We went to Sack's Lake. The biggest fish there were crappie and bluegill, six inches long at the most. They were so hungry we could toss in gold hooks without bait and they bite them. We just yanked them out of the water and onto the bank behind us. Many times the hook fell out and it went immediately back into the water. After 30 minutes we had 200 fish. Each one, when filleted, would give from one teaspoon to one tablespoon of meat per side. 400 spoonfuls of meat made good eating for 25 faculty members. It was a great fry. But, in times of stress I would use a seine instead of a hook and line, and I'd set it at one place in a creek or stream and go back a hundred or more feet and splash my way slowly toward the net.
Pond scum soup is delicious. Tastes like split pea soup. Scoop some green stuff off the top of a pond, with water, and boil it down to 1/3rd. Add water and boil down a couple more times. On the third time the final boil down gives you the soup. You can toss in some previously cooked fish or rodent or pheasant during the final boil. That soup will let you gain weight.
Food is food.
... and this is why over 50% of the US population wont survive a SHTF event. They have absolutely no clue on how to survive without grocery stores and mini-marts.
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RE: Hunting to eat....
I already do that- We eat far more venison than beef, and deer are the only game animal that is actually cheaper* to hunt than buying the alternative, in the present economy.
In a SHTF situation, that will not work: too many people after too few deer.
When times get really hard, edible anything will be darn scarce.
*You need to hunt locally, your kids need to fill their $6/2 deer tags, and you have to DIY the preocessing.
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I went to Cabela's yesterday afternoon and while there talked to a worker at the stand where binoculars and spotting scopes are sold and he told me they get ammo 2 -3 times a week and it is stocked at night. Every morning there are 20 people at the door when they open, Friday morning there was about 100 people, he said the 9 mm, .40 SW and other popular rounds last only minutes. I happened to be at GU on Tuesday afternoon at the check out when they stocked .45 cal and .40 SW, Remington UMC 250 count boxes, they found several boxes missing 4 or more shells. I have never bought the Remington .40 before and was a little surprised at the $136.00 price as the WWB was $18.99 a box.
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edible anything will be darn scarce.
or rejected by those cultured on fast food.
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I'm finding if you can get to Cabela's by 10 a.m. they usually have a few calibers of ammo on hand. It's usually gone by 1 though.
I was looking for a holster a couple of days ago and got to talking with one of the salesmen. After a few minutes he asked if I was looking for any ammo. I said .223, .357 Mag and .45 ACP. He said he had a case of FMJ 9mm in the back and if I wanted some he was going to put it out soon. My daughter shoots a 9mm so I hung out and picked up a couple of boxes for her. It pays to socialize a little with some of those guys.
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I'm finding if you can get to Cabela's by 10 a.m. they usually have a few calibers of ammo on hand. It's usually gone by 1 though.
I was looking for a holster a couple of days ago and got to talking with one of the salesmen. After a few minutes he asked if I was looking for any ammo. I said .223, .357 Mag and .45 ACP. He said he had a case of FMJ 9mm in the back and if I wanted some he was going to put it out soon. My daughter shoots a 9mm so I hung out and picked up a couple of boxes for her. It pays to socialize a little with some of those guys.
I've found the gun counter guys to be a pretty unsociable bunch out there. I'm sure it has to do with the sheer volume of people they deal with every day. Maybe if I catch 'em on a slow day....
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I've found the gun counter guys to be a pretty unsociable bunch out there. I'm sure it has to do with the sheer volume of people they deal with every day. Maybe if I catch 'em on a slow day....
Unfortunately this true, but almost understandable :(
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My guns are not as much for taking game, but for keeping what I catch. It should take less ammo for keeping food than getting food.
I am blessed to live on the Gulf Coast where if you understand the food chain, you can catch bait, and use it to catch bait, and use it to catch bait which is my normal method of fishing for large fish. A few years ago I caught a 98 lb Cobia which we ate all summer. I cooked my last batch of red snapper last weekend that was caught last June. This time of year would be the hardest as the only thing biting is Sheephead, but they also are really good table fare if you know where they are and how to catch them.
Someone said 50% would die, it is more like 60%, and they remaining 40 will be willing to do anything to survive.
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What caught your fancy?
.22 lever action, PISTOL. Henry Mares Leg, large loop. I just purchased the same gun in a rifle. They will make a nice pair.
The Mares Leg pistols intrigue me, as they violate the spirit of short barreled rifle BATF wise, without having to pay for a tax stamp. Something not in my collection.
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.22 lever action, PISTOL. Henry Mares Leg, large loop.
Sweet!
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need to get a "never buy from" list going if there isn't one started already.
This one makes me laugh. Marked down from 52.95!
https://ammoace.myshopify.com/products/9mm-luger-cci-speer-blazer-brass-115gr-fmj-50-rd-box
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Saturday night the Walmart at 72nd street around 2AM had FMJ 9mm
Unknown in they still have some check it out.
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Marked down from 52.95!
Such a deal! We should stock up! :o