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Title: S. 162 Justice and Mental Health Collaboration Act of 2013
Post by: bbauman on April 17, 2013, 09:52:31 PM
Johanns sponsored it. As did Boxer and Schumer.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s162 (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s162)

Thoughts?
Title: Re: S. 162 Justice and Mental Health Collaboration Act of 2013
Post by: unfy on April 17, 2013, 09:56:41 PM
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Mr. FRANKEN (for himself, Mr. JOHANNS, Mr. LEAHY, Mr. GRAHAM, Mr. DURBIN, Ms. AYOTTE, Mr. COONS, Mr. HATCH, Mr. BLUNT, Ms. COLLINS, Mr. PORTMAN, Mrs. SHAHEEN, Mr. WYDEN, Mrs. GILLIBRAND, Mr. BROWN, Ms. WARREN, Mr. REED, Mr. SCHUMER, and Mrs. BOXER)

Are you REALLY gonna make me read this thing ? With an 'all-star' list like that... I really don't wanna.
Title: Re: S. 162 Justice and Mental Health Collaboration Act of 2013
Post by: AAllen on April 17, 2013, 10:11:26 PM
Gives mental health assistance to criminals in prison and veterans, also includes some police training funds.  Nothing in it about firearms.  It's only 15 pages.
Title: Re: S. 162 Justice and Mental Health Collaboration Act of 2013
Post by: unfy on April 17, 2013, 10:20:55 PM
Reading the bill it sounds like all veterans are drug users.  *cough*

Depending on the context, which i didn't fully trace, but the swapping of 'mental illness' to 'MENTAL ILLNESS; MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER' a few times seems interesting.

The list of 5 folks that have to say 'yes' is a tad weird too.
Title: Re: S. 162 Justice and Mental Health Collaboration Act of 2013
Post by: bbauman on April 18, 2013, 08:16:21 AM
Quote from: AAllen on April 17, 2013, 10:11:26 PM
Gives mental health assistance to criminals in prison and veterans, also includes some police training funds.  Nothing in it about firearms.  It's only 15 pages.

And yet Johanns' email subject line is "e-Update: Protecting Second Amendment Rights with Commonsense Legislation".  So how does it tie into firearms?
Title: Re: S. 162 Justice and Mental Health Collaboration Act of 2013
Post by: AAllen on April 18, 2013, 08:39:56 AM
Quote from: bbauman on April 18, 2013, 08:16:21 AM
And yet Johanns' email subject line is "e-Update: Protecting Second Amendment Rights with Commonsense Legislation".  So how does it tie into firearms?


He is taking the tack of not blaming the firearm but the person, and doing something about the issue of people with mental disabilities (those who have been linked to all the major mass shootings).  Is that not what we keep saying its not the gun but the person?
Title: Re: S. 162 Justice and Mental Health Collaboration Act of 2013
Post by: bbauman on April 18, 2013, 09:40:35 AM
Quote from: AAllen on April 18, 2013, 08:39:56 AM
Is that not what we keep saying its not the gun but the person?

Absolutely. Guess I'm not seeing how this bill relates to firearms sections in the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 though I can't seem to find a good, readable source for that act either.
Title: Re: S. 162 Justice and Mental Health Collaboration Act of 2013
Post by: bullit on April 18, 2013, 09:41:27 AM
Keep in mind Al Franken began his career writing comedy for SNL......'nuff said.....