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General Categories => Newsworthy => Topic started by: Gary on April 19, 2013, 01:39:24 PM
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More people killed and injured, all because we invited these two punks that family members describe as trouble, into this country. They had ties to past bombings, so why let trash like this into our country?
Hope and pray no more people are hurt or killed. Likelyhood of that is low.
Every avenue into our country should be closed off for twenty years. What skilled people do we lack? None. Close all entry into this country, and start looking closely at the people we have allowed in, and ship some of those back.
I am pissed that English is fast becoming a second language. I have had enough of it already.
News Link Added>>>>>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311443/Boston-bomb-suspect-Dzokhar-Tsarnaev-hunted-SWAT-teams-police-kill-boxer-brother-Tamerlan-running-gun-battle.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311443/Boston-bomb-suspect-Dzokhar-Tsarnaev-hunted-SWAT-teams-police-kill-boxer-brother-Tamerlan-running-gun-battle.html)
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Every avenue into our country should be closed off for twenty years.
I vehemently disagree heh.
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Guess this will toss a Big Monkey Wrench into any new immigration bill :o
Sorry Mr. Obama looks like you might not get anything passed.
Maybe you should try a getting a budget passed next ? :laugh:
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I vehemently disagree heh.
Not my idea, Dr. Savage goes of on this sometimes. Savage says 10 years, and I figure double that is not long enough. His motto is Language, Culture, Borders. Exhaustively protect all three, or the Grand Experiment is over.
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Not my idea, Dr. Savage goes of on this sometimes. Savage says 10 years, and I figure double that is not long enough. His motto is Language, Culture, Borders. Exhaustively protect all three, or the Grand Experiment is over.
We're about 40-50 years late on that. :(
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Remember the 1st guy, the Saudi National who was injured, noted as a suspect and had his apartment raided? I don't mean to sound all conspiracy theory here, but I heard that though he is no longer of interest, there's a lot more to this story than we know. Our President met with a Saudi diplomat and the injured suspect is being deported next Tuesday. Who knows, maybe its for his own safety, but it does seem odd.
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Am I the only one concerned with what's going on in Boston? And I'm not talking about the bombing... I'm talking about the actions of the authorities.
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Am I the only one concerned with what's going on in Boston? And I'm not talking about the bombing... I'm talking about the actions of the authorities.
From Wikipedia: The largest city in New England, the city proper, covering 48 square miles (125 square km), had an estimated population of 626,000 in 2011 according to the U.S. Census, making it the 21st largest city in the United States. The city is the anchor of a substantially larger metropolitan area called Greater Boston, home to 4.5 million people and the tenth-largest metropolitan area in the country. Greater Boston as a commuting region is home to 7.6 million people, making it the fifth-largest Combined Statistical Area in the United States.
...and these 2 Jihadists have nearly brought the whole damn area to a screeching halt. :o
What happens when they get motivated? That's the scariest part to me.
We(as a country) are ill-prepared for events such as this.
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Remember the 1st guy, the Saudi National who was injured, noted as a suspect and had his apartment raided? I don't mean to sound all conspiracy theory here, but I heard that though he is no longer of interest, there's a lot more to this story than we know. Our President met with a Saudi diplomat and the injured suspect is being deported next Tuesday. Who knows, maybe its for his own safety, but it does seem odd.
It is being reported michelle o met secretly with people the FBI have as possible interests.
Why mechille ? Whole thing is damned odd. Who would plant bombs at the feet of 8 year olds ?
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...and these 2 Jihadists have nearly brought the whole damn area to a screeching halt. :o
We(as a country) are ill-prepared for events such as this.
Pretty much what I was getting at, but maybe I am just desensitized to such things.
America as a whole is pretty unspoiled (reference quote below). This is a great thing, it means it is relatively safe and prosperous here, and I sure hope it stays that way. But I worry about the actions of individuals and the powers-that-be if things like this become more frequent. There was this and the rogue cop earlier this year, and we have already seen the action/reaction to a tragic mass shooting and the ensuing hysteria that followed.
Who would plant bombs at the feet of 8 year olds ?
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Am I the only one concerned with what's going on in Boston? And I'm not talking about the bombing... I'm talking about the actions of the authorities.
You mean the de facto martial law? I'm quite disturbed about that aspect of this affair. >:D
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Martial Law, multiple layers of law enforcement shutting down a metro area - from doughnut-stuffed guys with handguns to UN-inspired Black Ops armored vehicles with "assault weapon" firepower ready to be unleashed in a neighborhood setting - a MIT patrolmen assassinated as he sits at the wheel, unproductive gunfire with the all too typical LEO "marksmanship", wild car chases, unfruitful 4th-Amendment-be-damned home to home searches, the last perp evading thousands of cops who is then found by a homeowner, sheepish citizens emerging from their closets to cheer the police ... all in all, a disturbing display of what some are calling the "Culture of Cowardice" formulated in disarmed, far-left locales.
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http://youtu.be/vqJUam-KKcY (http://youtu.be/vqJUam-KKcY)
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"Warrant? We don't need no stinkin' warrant!"
A homeowner can't defend his castle against this sort of invasion... on his own.
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http://youtu.be/vqJUam-KKcY (http://youtu.be/vqJUam-KKcY)
That video is horrifying! :o Is anyone going to stand up to this violation of the 4A?
Fly
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That video is horrifying! :o Is anyone going to stand up to this violation of the 4A?
Fly
The video does not give a clear indication of the reason for this heavy handed action, and is not time stamped to verify when it was shot, but some suggest it was near the place where the 19yo suspect was captured, and it may have been justified by exigent circumstances or a report of the terrorist entering that house ( hot pursuit?)
Outside of the very few justifications for warrantless searches, this video is very disturbing to me, but I may not know enough about the law to tell if it was a violation of the 4th Amendment. But it sure looks bad
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I am not a LEO, nor am i a military expert, but I am a pretty good hunter and when I hunt at the club, all the members of the club do not bunch up in a group and go storming all over the woods. We sit quietly at locations that give an optimum view of the greatest amount of real estate and wait for the prey to move across our field of vision.
After watching the video, I can see why the second bomber eluded capture for as long as he did. The LEOS acted like they were conducting a military operation, and not a hunt.
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Glenn Beck says he will break news about the Boston Bombing, unless Obama comes clean and makes an announcement . Monday is his deadline. Makes for interesting journalism.
Glenn Beck Gives Government Until Monday to Come Clean About Boston Bombing Cover-Up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiEpSggvZFU#ws)
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Glenn Beck says he will break news about the Boston Bombing, unless Obama comes clean and makes an announcement . Monday is his deadline. Makes for interesting journalism.
Errr...yeah, but it is Glenn Beck. I would disagree with labeling what he does "journalism".
Fly
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A good source of journalism is a local FOX affiliate broadcaster named Ben Swann, in a series of reports called Reality Check.
Ben does a Reality Check story on the Boston Bombing. Some of the facts he uncovers, do not jell well with what is being stated now by the authorities.
Reality Check: Did the FBI know about Boston bombing beforehand? - Ben Swann (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjW03McCgfw#ws)
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Errr...yeah, but it is Glenn Beck. I would disagree with labeling what he does "journalism".
Fly
Maybe throw the baby out with the bath water on Alex Jones stuff (maybe, but don't discount anything till you think it through yourself), but Beck is a little closer to center.
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Maybe throw the baby out with the bath water on Alex Jones stuff (maybe, but don't discount anything till you think it through yourself), but Beck is a little closer to center.
I am not so much discounting his message, so much as I am the way he delivers it. Too much melodrama, exaggerations and corny delivery for me.
I will never forget the time he made a statement about Whoopie Goldberg's activities. He was invited on "The View" and was confronted by Whoopie. Glenn had zero, zip, zilch to say in defense of his apparently false statements about Whoopie. It was after this that I questioned the validity of his information. NOTE: I am not a Whoopie lover. I just want the facts without the emotional rhetoric. That allows me to make my own decision, just as you suggested.
Along those lines, I DO think for my self as evidenced by the fact that I believe both parties have serious flaws in their stance on national issues. I guess you would say that I am an equal opportunity complainer. ;D
Fly
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Here is a commentary by John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute on the recent action in Boston. I posted the first part which makes some interesting points. JK
‘Boston Strong’: Marching in Lockstep with the Police State
By John W. Whitehead
April 22, 2013
“Of all the tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.”—C.S. Lewis
Caught up in the televised drama of a military-style manhunt for the suspects in the Boston Marathon explosion, most Americans fail to realize that the world around them has been suddenly and jarringly shifted off its axis, that axis being the U.S. Constitution.
For those like myself who have studied emerging police states, the sight of a city placed under martial law—its citizens under house arrest (officials used the Orwellian phrase “shelter in place” to describe the mandatory lockdown), military-style helicopters equipped with thermal imaging devices buzzing the skies, tanks and armored vehicles on the streets, and snipers perched on rooftops, while thousands of black-garbed police swarmed the streets and SWAT teams carried out house-to-house searches in search of two young and seemingly unlikely bombing suspects—leaves us in a growing state of unease.
Mind you, these are no longer warning signs of a steadily encroaching police state. The police state has arrived.
Equally unnerving is the ease with which Americans welcomed the city-wide lockdown, the routine invasion of their privacy, and the dismantling of every constitutional right intended to serve as a bulwark against government abuses. Watching it unfold, I couldn’t help but think of Nazi Field Marshal Hermann Goering’s remarks during the Nuremberg trials. As Goering noted:
It is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
As the events in Boston have made clear, it does indeed work the same in every country. The same propaganda and police state tactics that worked for Adolf Hitler 80 years ago continue to be employed with great success in a post-9/11 America.
Whatever the threat to so-called security—whether it’s rumored weapons of mass destruction, school shootings, or alleged acts of terrorism—it doesn’t take much for the American people to march in lockstep with the government’s dictates, even if it means submitting to martial law, having their homes searched, and being stripped of one’s constitutional rights at a moment’s notice.
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We no longer declare martial law, just like we no longer declare wars. We just do it, undeclaired. Anyone that thinks 5 million people were not under martial law, controlled by the Kenyan police force, DHS had better look through posted you tube videos of the event.
As long as no one upsets the apple cart, having 60 plus federal police agencies in the USA is only a drag on the taxes. However, when two punks with home made pipe bombs kill and hurt people at a sporting event, 5 million people get locked up, threatened with arrest, or worse. Is this a good thing? The feds did not find the last guy, he was found by a guy that wanted a smoke break, and raced outside once the martial law was relaxed. The guy hiding in his boat for 16 hours, would have been found 12 hours earlier, had the guy been allowed outside to smoke. How many millions of dollars were spent, how many rights were violated, in those extra 12 hours, the bunker cops used to go house to house?
If this is the response from two guys with nails, two pressure cookers, and some gun powder, what would the DHS response to a regional, or national emergency? A complete martial law would be no cell phones, emails, landlines, rolling blackouts of electricity, roadblocks, checkpoints, food rationing, and the one voice we will hear on the radio, will be the Kenyan instructing us what to do.
Every family, every neighborhood needs a emergency plan, for the next time we get close to the finish line.
God help us.
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The full opinion piece is here:
https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/boston_strong_marching_in_lockstep_with_the_police_state (https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/boston_strong_marching_in_lockstep_with_the_police_state)
John Whitehead is a Constitutional Lawyer who has appeared before the SCOTUS several times, dealing mainly with erosion of the 1st Amendment experienced by people of Faith.