Author Topic: this is near the top of the list of guns I wont buy (Read 8653 times)

shooter · « **on:** January 20, 2015, 08:46:38 PM »

a friend found this, I have no idea who would fire a gun this small , and it is made in .308. I expect some fool to buy onem give it to his girlfriend to fire, and post the video to u tube.

http://www.facebook.com/438428992978984/photos/a.438433249645225.1073741826.438428992978984/438433189645231/?type=1&theater

FarmerRick · « **Reply #1 on:** January 20, 2015, 09:49:24 PM »

Hmmm... first they say it's chambered in 5.56, then they say it's .308, and the gun is stamped .223.

Either way, it might have just a bit of muzzle flash...

shooter · « **Reply #2 on:** January 20, 2015, 09:53:42 PM »

Quote from: FarmerRick on January 20, 2015, 09:49:24 PM

Hmmm... first they say it's chambered in 5.56, then they say it's .308, and the gun is stamped .223.

I figured they make 2 different pistols

newfalguy101 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 20, 2015, 09:56:38 PM »

Actually, if you think about it, with virtually no barrel, there will be very little pressure, minimal recoil.....

Still nothing more than a gimmick

AWick · « **Reply #4 on:** January 20, 2015, 11:00:44 PM »

Quote from: FarmerRick on January 20, 2015, 09:49:24 PM

Hmmm... first they say it's chambered in 5.56, then they say it's .308, and the gun is stamped .223.

Either way, it might have just a bit of muzzle flash...

I had to reread it a few times myself because of missing commas and poor structure. I cleared it up below.

"Heizer Defense is releasing alongside their Pocket AR, a single shot pistol that is chambered in 5.56, a single shot pistol chambered in .308.[/u]"

That's some bad sentence structuring done going there...

As for firing it, I'll pass.

SemperFiGuy · « **Reply #5 on:** January 21, 2015, 08:32:51 AM »

Here's a video showing a .410 shotshell being shot in this Little Pocket Wonder:

All the viewer comments seem to be pretty consistent: ??What??

sfg

GreyGeek · « **Reply #6 on:** January 21, 2015, 08:42:12 AM »

That's putting a LOT of hope on your first, and more than likely only, shot!
It better be a contact shot...

gsd · « **Reply #7 on:** January 21, 2015, 10:03:01 AM »

We've already established that I'm the idiot who will shoot anything once.

So someone should buy one and I'll write up a range report. I won't even send you my hospital bill. Promise.

Mali · « **Reply #8 on:** January 21, 2015, 11:32:31 AM »

Although I am sure there is a specific use case for single shot defense weapons, I would think they need to be smaller and more concealable, and this this just strikes me as very gimmicky.

GSD, have fun. let me know when you go and I will be there to record the whole thing for posterity.

RobertH · « **Reply #9 on:** January 21, 2015, 05:24:03 PM »

GSD, i will film it.

Randy · « **Reply #10 on:** January 23, 2015, 01:22:06 AM »

And at a low price of only 499.00, cough..

bkoenig · « **Reply #11 on:** January 23, 2015, 07:49:16 AM »

I would shoot it. Wouldn't buy it, but I'd shoot it.

Anyone else get the feeling that we're reaching the pinnacle of firearms development, and manufacturers are running out of ideas? That would explain stuff like this. And pretty much anything designed by Taurus.

SemperFiGuy · « **Reply #12 on:** January 23, 2015, 08:08:05 AM »

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And pretty much anything designed by Taurus.

Aha!

Then you must have already seen the new Taurus Curve.............

http://www.taurususa.com/whats-new-the-curve.cfm

sfg

mott555 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 23, 2015, 08:26:02 AM »

Quote from: bkoenig on January 23, 2015, 07:49:16 AM

Anyone else get the feeling that we're reaching the pinnacle of firearms development, and manufacturers are running out of ideas? That would explain stuff like this. And pretty much anything designed by Taurus.

Some of the new marketing idiots who sell based on gimmicks and other nonsense are finally getting hired by firearms manufacturers.

newfalguy101 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 23, 2015, 01:07:42 PM »

Quote from: bkoenig on January 23, 2015, 07:49:16 AM

Anyone else get the feeling that we're reaching the pinnacle of firearms development, and manufacturers are running out of ideas? That would explain stuff like this. And pretty much anything designed by Taurus.

There has not been a significant development in firearms for well over a hundred years.

Knowing that, wrap your head around this: The Flintlock was state of the art for nearly two HUNDRED years.

At 45 years of age, I likely will not be around for the next evolutionary step in the firearms world......sobering

GreyGeek · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2015, 01:27:41 PM »

Hand held lasers anyone?
Care to guess on when they would be available and how soon afterwards the gov will disallow public ownership?

JTH · « **Reply #16 on:** January 29, 2015, 03:24:15 PM »

Quote from: newfalguy101 on January 23, 2015, 01:07:42 PM

There has not been a significant development in firearms for well over a hundred years.

Hm. Polymers? Lasers? Red Dots? (Though I'd agree that lasers and red dot optics aren't technically "firearms" developments. The use of polymer really is, though.)

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At 45 years of age, I likely will not be around for the next evolutionary step in the firearms world......sobering

It seems unlikely to me that I would NOT be around for the next step, considering how technology is advancing, and the current fact that we haven't seen any significant advance in some time.

sjwsti · « **Reply #17 on:** January 29, 2015, 04:32:44 PM »

Quote from: GreyGeek on January 23, 2015, 01:27:41 PM

Hand held lasers anyone?
Care to guess on when they would be available and how soon afterwards the gov will disallow public ownership?

We may already be there. The laws on the importation of certain classes of lasers changed recently. There are several companies that have them for sale on line, and are no longer available to ship to the US. I dont know if the laws on the possession of these types of lasers has changed or not. Unfortunately I lost all of my lasers in a freak boating accident.

http://www.laserglow.com/GSS

http://www.wickedlasers.com/arctic

- Shawn

newfalguy101 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 29, 2015, 06:40:34 PM »

Quote from: jthhapkido on January 29, 2015, 03:24:15 PM

Hm. Polymers? Lasers? Red Dots? (Though I'd agree that lasers and red dot optics aren't technically "firearms" developments. The use of polymer really is, though.)

It seems unlikely to me that I would NOT be around for the next step, considering how technology is advancing, and the current fact that we haven't seen any significant advance in some time.

Every single poly gun on the market uses a firing system developed in the late 1890's..................so other than the materials, what exactly is the technological advancement??

I don't consider different materials to do the same job as any real advancement, besides, poly was first used in, the what 30"s?? ( I believe Bakalite is a type of polymer, I could be wrong about that however... )

GreyGeek · « **Reply #19 on:** January 30, 2015, 10:17:07 AM »

Quote from: sjwsti on January 29, 2015, 04:32:44 PM

We may already be there. The laws on the importation of certain classes of lasers changed recently. There are several companies that have them for sale on line, and are no longer available to ship to the US. I dont know if the laws on the possession of these types of lasers has changed or not. Unfortunately I lost all of my lasers in a freak boating accident.

http://www.laserglow.com/GSS

http://www.wickedlasers.com/arctic

- Shawn

Indeed!

Industrial lasers are already available. 600W Nd:YAG pulsed lasers powered by a 12V battery could be very effective.