Omaha and Pepper spray and Bars

[Sonicblaze]

I searched and searched and couldn't find an answer. What is the laws in Omaha/NE regarding pepperspray and bars? 

I obviously can't have my firearm on me or even locked in my car if I want a beer or two, but can I carry my pepperspray on my belt?  I read Florida doesn't even allow that, just curious if there's any laws in NE that I couldn't find.

[depserv]

Not sure about pepper spray, but it will probably be considered lethal force if you hit someone over the head with a bar.

[Sonicblaze]

It'd be pretty entertaining trying to walk around with a bar concealed in the leg of my pants and trying to draw it out defense :-)

[Mali]

Sonic, despite all the WAGs in here I really don't think there is anything about caring the pepper spray.  Maybe one of the lawyers in here might have some insight?

[depserv]

Sonic, despite all the WAGs in here I really don't think there is anything about caring the pepper spray.  Maybe one of the lawyers in here might have some insight?

What's a WAG? 
I hate looking like a grammar Nazi, but it's carrying, not caring; caring is a slogan liberals use in their promotion of socialism.
I was actually hoping someone with knowledge of the subject would answer the question too by the way; I'm curious about it myself.  Pepper spray can be a lot of fun.  Have you ever sprayed some in the air in a room full of people?

[Lmbass14]

WAG = Wild A$$ Guess

[Kendahl]

WAG = Wild A$$ Guess

A WAG is not very precise. For that, you need a SWAG. That's a scientific WAG.

[SemperFiGuy]

FWIW...........

I searched the Omaha Municipal code for both mace and pepper spray.

Got back nothing on the search.  Nada.

Appears that pepper spray enjoys no particular attention within the realm of prohibited or controlled self-defense modalities in Omaha.

Stun guns, yes.  Definite regulations at the NE state statute level.   Mace and pepper spray, apparently not specifically regulated in Omaha.  Nevertheless, the OPD LEO will still provide a certain amount of guff, you can bet.  (that's wot they hafta do.)

Now:  Let's Do the States  (from www.pepper-spray-store.com)
States Where Pepper Sprays are Restricted

    New York: Sold in pharmacies and by licensed firearms dealers. Animal sprays ordered online are legal.
   
    Massachusetts: Sold by licensed firearms dealers. Animal sprays ordered online are legal.
 
    Michigan: <35 grams per can, no stronger than 10% concentrate. No combinations.
   
    Wisconsin: Pepper spray only, no stronger than 10%. Safety features required. Weight allowed 15-60 grams.
   
    California: Weight restricted to 2.5 ounces (about 70 grams).

    Washington D.C.: You must register with the police for possession of pepper spray.



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[SemperFiGuy]

Anybody Who Wants to Try It Can Try to Finish This One:

"A Can of Pepper Spray Walks Into an Omaha Bar................................."

[Sorry..........rilly sorry........]

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[Mali]

What's a WAG? 
I hate looking like a grammar Nazi, but it's carrying, not caring; caring is a slogan liberals use in their promotion of socialism.

WAG could be several things including "Wise A** Guess" or "Wise Acre Guys".
If you don't want to be a Grammar Nazi... then don't.  I typed that real quick and missed the two letters. My point was to be humorous and give the OP hope that there will be an answer which I, too, and awaiting.

[depserv]

WAG could be several things including "Wise A** Guess" or "Wise Acre Guys".
If you don't want to be a Grammar Nazi... then don't.  I typed that real and missed the two letters. My point was to be humorous and give the OP hope that there will be an answer which I, too, and awaiting.

We're all trying to be funny my friend (maybe unsuccessfully in my case, as usual).  But since I strive for precise correctness, let me just point out that I didn't actually say I didn't want to be a grammar Nazi; I said I didn't want to look like one, which means I guess I wanted to be a stealth grammar Nazi.  I might add that as much as I hate looking like one I sometimes have to weigh one thing against another, and end up looking like one anyway, because I hate letting a good typo go to waste. 

Looks like we ended up getting a good answer to the original question in spite of everything; my thanks to Mr. SemperFiGuy, and thanks to those who answered my question of what a WAG is. 

[NE Bull]

Hmm... able to do something because no law expressly allows or disallows the act or object.....
What's that called again?

 Oh yeah ...LIBERTY!

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[SemperFiGuy]

OK..........

Here's what I all-too-often see on Cops TV Show:

LEOs pull up to Perp at curb.  Start the usual yelling, "Get Down, Show Me Your Hands, Relax, Quit Resisting....Whatever."

Perp won't go along w/LEO's loudly barked commands.  LEO pulls out pepper spray, gives Perp a Big Snootful.

Perp pays absolutely no attention whatever to the pepper spray/mace/or other form of oleum capsicum spray.  Perp just keeps on doing his Perp thing.   LEO sprays and sprays.  OC spray has no apparent effect on Perp a-tall.

Then about a Whole Mob of LEOs jump the Perp, cuff him, read him his rights, yada, yada, yada.  Perp now in custody, subdued.  But not by the OC spray.

Am I sayin' that OC spray doesn't work??  Not at all. 

Fer Sure, sometimes it does.   But lotsa times, it just doesn't seem to have much effect on the Perp.   Guess the Meth or Pot or Meanness in the Perp's system neutralizes the OC spray, whatever.

So don't be surprised if Your Perp just shakes his head, shrugs, and keeps on coming.

Better have a Plan B on deck, that's all.

sfgCops TV Addict (Certified)

[Sonicblaze]

I know OC may not work; however there are times I will and do enjoy drinking a beer. I those cases, I want _something_ as opposed to nothing. And in reality I carry pepper gel, not spray. Even if pain-wise they don't react, the gel will affect vision

[SemperFiGuy]

I want _something_ as opposed to nothing.

You and I are entirely in sync on this point.

BTW--Even if OC doesn't work each, every, and all the time, I still don't want a big slug of it in the face.  Or anywhere else. 

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[Sonicblaze]

So far it seems there are no laws saying I can't carry it with a BAC>.0000000001 or into a place "making more than 50% of their profit from alcohol sales"

[barmandr]

I know OC may not work; however there are times I will and do enjoy drinking a beer. I those cases, I want _something_ as opposed to nothing.

How about a knife?

[depserv]

How about a knife?

A knife is questionable, since a knife will either do serious damage or it will do nothing, unlike pepper spray or a big stick.  However, carrying a knife for general purpose is something most men do, and if you are forced to defend yourself you use whatever is handy.  But it might get you in trouble, depending on the circumstances.

The problem with bars is that alcohol tends to make people ten foot tall and bulletproof, as well as obnoxious fools with really bad judgment.  A fight in a place like that is often not a clear cut case of self defense.  You might be perfectly sober and fine, but might get assaulted by some big strong drunk who's usually a nice guy.  So how do you stop that guy with a knife?  Maybe cut him and he'll cry and go home?  People get cut up pretty bad sometimes and still keep fighting.  And just being threatened with a knife is no guarantee the guy will leave you alone; in fact if I'm ever unlucky enough to have to use a knife to defend myself the guy will feel it before he sees it.  I'd rather hit the guy with a chair or something.  But I do carry a knife, and given the right circumstances I'd use it to defend myself I suppose.  But hopefully not against some drunken fool.

I knew a guy who carried a roll of quarters taped up to increase the power of his fist.  The increase in power is greater than you might think; my picture here, for example, is me breaking a cement block with a steel chisel (blunt end), which gives an idea of how much just a little bit of extra weight increases the power of a fist.  I'm guessing though that the roll of quarters would be considered a concealed weapon, especially if it was taped up, and it might make it look like you were looking for a fight.

I doubt there's a prohibition on carrying a steel flashlight, which can be said to have a nonweapon purpose.  I don't know if I'd want to bop somebody on the head with a flashlight I paid $80 for though.  Maybe outside in the dark a super bright light might blind an aggressor long enough to finish him off or get away.  And if I had to ruin my expensive flashlight to save my life I suppose I could make myself do it.

How about a heavy wooden cane and you walk with a limp?  I'd take a big stick over a knife any day.  And nobody's going to take away a guy's cane.  I see some high quality sword canes in the online catalog of Atlanta Cutlery, but one of those might get you in trouble.  Just a regular cane would probably be the best idea, as long as it's heavy enough and you know how to use it.

[Mali]

Perhaps carrying a "tactical" pen?

I carry a pen all the time because I do a lot of note taking and need one, but it is made of aluminum has a textured surface and a glass break end.  It's thick enough that I can put it in my fist and reinforce a punch but small enough to be used comfortably as a pen.

Granted it is made by Uzi but it's still nice to have a tool in my pocket that can fit my needs without also being an obvious weapon like a roll of quarters.

[Sonicblaze]

I'd argue a tactical pen is still an obvious weapon due to its construction quality and design.  Don't remember where, but read that some places consider a tactical pen the same class of weapon as a knife, as both are lethal weapons designed for stabbing.