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Offline fortunateComa

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Help I don't know whats going on here
« on: April 22, 2015, 09:50:06 AM »
I have dimples showing up. I'm using lee full length sizing die, these are 5.56 lc. I've cleaned them, lubed them, not happening on all of them. Have taken the die apart, cleaned.

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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2015, 10:36:28 AM »
Too much lube.
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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2015, 10:58:48 AM »
Ok thanks I'll try using less.I'm still new to reloading. Thanks again.

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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2015, 11:05:46 AM »
We all do it from time to time
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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2015, 11:45:01 AM »
Thanks again, I have run 30? though and not a problem

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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2015, 11:56:40 AM »
As ghknives said - too much lube.

The lube will form little pockets / bubbles as it's being pressed through the die if you have it too thick.  Brass will easily deform compared to trying to static compressed a dense liquid like lube.

If you ever do some wildcat'ing or cartridge conversion - you'll find yourself wiping off lube every couple of strokes just to avoid them dimples / "pitting".



addition:  having run 30, you're now building up lube within the die itself as well :D
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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2015, 12:09:32 PM »
Thanks for the help I'm still new to this so I'm sure I'll have more questions as I progress with my reloading adventures

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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2015, 12:11:59 PM »
As long as the lube dents don't interfere with chambering they are OK to shoot and the dents will pop back out
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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2015, 12:23:55 PM »
These are all range pickups, I figured I would learn to reload with these before I reload something that cost me money.

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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2015, 12:32:20 PM »
Inspect your brass for cracks and signs of head separation.  Especially free range organic brass :D.

Otherwise, feel free to reload it.  Give it a new life \o/ .  Ask questions - we got a range of experienced friendly folks around here. Welcome to reloading life!

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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2015, 09:02:01 PM »
What kind of lube are you using?  Not a Hornady salesman but I like to use Hornady One Shot Case Lube.  It is aerosol and it only takes a little to a batch.  Spray it on, shake them around and go to loading.  I don't know any way to get too much on unless you dowse them with the whole can.

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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2015, 11:52:04 PM »
I have never found a need to lube the outside or inside of a bottleneck case, and have never had lube dents.

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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2015, 01:46:46 PM »
I have never found a need to lube the outside or inside of a bottleneck case, and have never had lube dents.

Do you resize the entire case? (Do you shoot a semi-auto?)
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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2015, 02:31:42 PM »
I have never found a need to lube the outside or inside of a bottleneck case, and have never had lube dents.

How do you prevent stuck cases?

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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2015, 03:27:06 PM »
How do you prevent stuck cases?


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I ruined a damn near brand new set of dies by using too little lube when I started out. I now have it just about figured out.
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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2015, 03:36:24 PM »
I switched to bootleg dillon lube. Havent ran  bottle neck yet but wow it is smooth on pistol  brass...

4 oz of lanolin and 24oz of red heet.
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Re: Help I don't know whats going on here
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2015, 10:22:27 PM »
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How do you prevent stuck cases?

OMG!  STUCK CASE!!!  Reloader's Nightmare

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