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Offline farmerbob

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Exploding targets?
« on: January 24, 2017, 09:43:38 PM »
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Offline depserv

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Re: Exploding targets?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2017, 10:31:20 PM »
Looks like the Nebraska legislature struck again.  Hopefully the man will only get a fraction of what he might get.

It used to be common to make a binary explosive mix various places I worked by mixing oxygen and acetylene in a bag and setting it where welding sparks would fall on it.  Usually the welder didn't think it was very funny.  I of course would never have done anything like that.  And these days those running job sites don't have a very good sense of humor about such things.

Though I would never do it, rumor has it that this mix in a bag makes a good exploding target that can be set off by a bullet.  Probably dangerous since the mix is shock sensitive, and even a little bag makes a big boom.  I'm guessing this mix would be illegal in Nebraska too.   
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Offline Dan W

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Re: Exploding targets?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2017, 10:54:07 PM »
you can buy and possess binary explosive targets, but once the components are mixed you need an explosive  permit issued by NSP


http://engc.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/State_Patrol_Exploding_Target_Letter.pdf
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Offline NE Bull

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Re: Exploding targets?
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2017, 02:24:24 AM »
Background on this.  The NFOA learned of this during a meeting with the NSP and NE State Fire Marshal, so this is straight from the mouths of the powers that be., not social media armchair attorneys.
Binary targets were never on the radar as far as law and permits go. Butt.... Y'all can thank the yayoos out near Kearney that set off like 10+ pounds charge of the stuff and broke Windows, shook houses and left a crater.  While investigators researched for something to charge them with, it was found by NSP,NFM that by the letter of the law the mixed compound falls under explosives, thus the permit.
Kansas had recently found the same issue, but they were able to secure an open waiver for binary targets used as prescribed.  I have been looking to do the same here, but have yet to secure a meeting, due to a changing of the guard at NSP.  And now with this latest, it may be no easy task.

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Re: Exploding targets?
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2017, 01:44:44 PM »
Quote from: NE Bull on January 25, 2017, 02:24:24 AM
Background on this.  The NFOA learned of this during a meeting with the NSP and NE State Fire Marshal, so this is straight from the mouths of the powers that be., not social media armchair attorneys.
Binary targets were never on the radar as far as law and permits go. Butt.... Y'all can thank the yayoos out near Kearney that set off like 10+ pounds charge of the stuff and broke Windows, shook houses and left a crater.  While investigators researched for something to charge them with, it was found by NSP,NFM that by the letter of the law the mixed compound falls under explosives, thus the permit.
Kansas had recently found the same issue, but they were able to secure an open waiver for binary targets used as prescribed.  I have been looking to do the same here, but have yet to secure a meeting, due to a changing of the guard at NSP.  And now with this latest, it may be no easy task.

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Just adding a note, at the time all this happened there was a movement nationally lead by the National Firemarshalls organization to ban bis nary explosives everywhere. Further west there has been a lot of wildfires started by the misuse of them. The Nebraska Firemarshall was working on writing legislation and bringing the NSP on board to do this when the meeting happened where it was decided current law already covered them.
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Offline Mntnman

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Re: Exploding targets?
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2017, 02:17:40 PM »
The Tannerite brand has been proven to not start fires. The rest, not so much.
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