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progress on lb889?
« on: January 14, 2010, 07:12:57 PM »
has anyone heard anymore on lb889? was wondering if its making good progress.
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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2010, 07:24:23 PM »

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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2010, 07:24:26 PM »
It's a process. Rest assured you will hear about it first on this website
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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2010, 07:43:19 PM »
awesome!!! i am really enthused and pumped up about this bill. i pray it passes. when it does, i think we should all celebrate somewhere. ;D
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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2010, 08:07:59 PM »
How about Sept 11, 2010 in Grand Island ;)
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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2010, 08:09:09 PM »
On 1/12/10,  LB889 was referred to the NE Legislative Judiciary Committee by the Legislative Reference Committee.

We are now waiting for the Judiciary Committe, Chairman Senator Brad Ashford  to "pick a date" for the "Public Hearing."

Public Hearings are always scheduled in the afternoons, usually with a 1:30 P.M. start time. They usually have four or five LBs on their afternoon hearing schedule and the order in which the LBs are heard isn't usually known until one arrives for the hearing. So, if going, plan on being there (at the state capitol) at 1:30 P.M. And, plan on being there for the entire afternoon.

Because of the volume of paperwork the Senators deal with it is best to wait until a day or two prior to the hearing to start writing the members of the Judiciary Committee asking for their support.

Once LB889 is out of committee and on General File, and a date is scheduled for floor debate, that will be the time to start writing YOUR OWN specific State Senator asking for their support. If you bug some of them to soon, they may forget the volume of people who are interested in this effort.

As soon as we know the date for the public hearing it will be posted. We will need at least a 5 to 3 vote to get it out of the Judiciary committee.

There is NOTHING in the "Rules of the Legislature" that says they have to have a public hearing on any topic. Although, Public Hearings are usually scheduled for issues which are considered important to the general public.
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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2010, 08:11:10 PM »
How about Sept 11, 2010 in Grand Island ;)

Whatever do you mean, Dan?
« Last Edit: January 14, 2010, 08:19:25 PM by SBarry »
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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2010, 08:34:28 PM »
How about Sept 11, 2010 in Grand Island ;)

Whatever do you mean, Dan?

I mean it would be a really good time to become a full member of the NFOA, so you can attend the first ever NFOA membership meeting on Sept 11 2010
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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2010, 08:50:10 PM »
i think the september 11 idea sounds great!!! i would be more than happy to attend! :)
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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2010, 09:28:05 PM »
For those of you who plan on Testifying FOR LB889. You are limited to 3 minutes and then will be asked questions by the Judiciary Committee members if they need clarification on anything you've presented.

Please follow the information / instructions below. We need to be prepared, and your testimony should be in writing, otherwise you will need to speak slow enough for whatever you say to be transcribed. So, if you plan to testify, don't wait to the last minute to put it on paper......start writing your testimony TODAY. Be sure to read "Testimony Tips." DO NOT FORGET to make 15 copies of your testimony.

Tips on Testifying at a Committee Hearing

The Hearing Process

A committee may consider several bills during an afternoon. The committee chairperson determines the order in which bills will be heard, the rules for testifying and whether there will be a time limit on your testimony. The length of time spent on each bill varies and depends largely on the number of people testifying, the length of their testimony and the number of questions asked by committee members.

Usually, unless otherwise indicated, hearings begin at 1:30 p.m. Each bill is presented by the senator who sponsors it. After the sponsoring senator finishes his or her introduction, the committee chair typically will ask proponents of the bill to come forward individually and state their reasons for supporting the measure. Then, the chair will ask the bill's opponents to come forward and state their opinions. Often, committee chairpersons will allow individuals to testify in a neutral capacity.

If you want to testify before the committee, you will need to fill out the sign-in sheet at the witness table, orally identify yourself and spell your last name for the record, and state who, if anyone, you represent as you begin your testimony. It is important to remember that committee proceedings are transcribed verbatim.

Letters or written communications containing support, opposition or neutral testimony also are accepted by committees during a bill's public hearing. Persons wishing to send written information should address their correspondence to the office of the senator who chairs the committee and ensure that the information arrives before the hearing.

Citizen Testimony

As a concerned citizen, there are several ways in which you may communicate effectively with your senator in an attempt to suggest or influence legislation. One way is to testify at a legislative hearing.

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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2010, 09:36:47 PM »
One other note.... It would be nice to know WHO ALL is going to be testifying at the Public Hearing on LB889.

More than likely, either Jordan Austin - Nebraska's NRA/ILA Representative from Fairfax, VA. or Ron Jensen - Lincoln Attorney, our NE State NRA/ILA Representative will be testifying on behalf of the NRA. I will be testifying for the NMA/ENGC.

Who or how many will be representing the NFOA? It would be nice if we had NFOA members from across the state testifying, although we can't all be saying the same thing over and over again.

I'd like whomever is planning on testifying to respond to this message. Thanks.
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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2010, 09:52:18 PM »
I will be testifying on this bill, so long as the hearing doesn't fall on a date I am out of town.

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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2010, 10:01:12 PM »
If it happens to fall on a date when your out of town, be sure to get your testimony to someone else, so they can fill in for you.

That's three of us testifying so far.

It would be nice if we knew of or can round up around fifteen people testifying, as that would take up approximately 45 minutes to an hour of PRO LB889 talk. I will know more after the NCSC meeting in Lincoln on the 1st of Feb., that's if the public hearing is scheduled after that date.

I have no idea how many people or what organizations are going to show up to testify against it, but you know there will be some.
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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2010, 10:05:15 PM »
The NFOA encourages our members to contact their representatives to support this bill.  Yes, once it is scheduled for floor debate it is more important but speaking now lets them know this issue is important to you and that you expect action.

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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2010, 10:07:11 PM »
I will also be there as President of the NFOA.

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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2010, 10:07:55 PM »
Great, will you be testifying?
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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2010, 10:13:56 PM »
As I have on every firearm related bill in the last 5 years other than last year when I had to mail my testemony in from Iraq.

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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2010, 10:17:37 PM »
Fantastic.
We've met before when testifying in Lincoln, when we both were attending public hearings. You even gave me a copy of your CCW testimony. Looking forward to doing it again. That's FOUR of us...for sure.
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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2010, 07:37:15 AM »
I'm planning on being there as well and I'm quite sure there will be MANY more to fill the room, just as there was last year for the LB430 and LB273 hearings.

Wes, thanks for giving those who are not familiar with it the general run-down on how the Committee hearing process works.  I will add that one should be prepared to spend the afternoon in a cramped, warm, stuffy room listening quietly to other issues that you may have absolutely no interest in whatsoever.  It is not the most fun thing in the world, but is the process that is used.

Showing up with concise, accurate, and heart-felt testimony to give can help the NFOA get this bill advanced out of committee.  If that doesn't happen, the bill will have to be re-introduced next session. 
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Re: progress on lb889?
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2010, 02:03:47 PM »
With a little heads up I will come out from Alliance and represent the Western side of the state. Keep us posted.
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