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Author Topic: LB430 UPDATE 5/13/09: LB430 Passes 45-3; thank the Senators  (Read 25907 times)

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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #120 on: April 02, 2009, 05:39:30 PM »
Here's the votes on Amendment 936 roll call (29 yes, 15 no, 5 nv=no vote):
Adams-yes, Ashford-yes, Avery-nv, Campbell-no, Carlson-yes, Christensen-yes, Coash-yes, Cook-no, Corrett-yes, Council-no, Dierks-yes, Dubes-no, Fischer-yes, Flood-yes, Friend-yes, Fulton-yes, Gay-yes, Giese-no, Gloor-no, Haar-no, Hadley-yes, Hansen-yes, Harms-no, Heidemann-yes, Howard-nv, Janssen-yes, Karpisek-no, Langemeier-yes, Lathings-no, Lautenbaugh-yes, Louden-yes, McCoy-yes, McGill-no, Mello-yes, Nantkes-nv, Nelson-yes, Nordquist-yes, Pahls-yes, Pankonin-nv, Pirsch-yes, Price-yes, Rogent-no, Schilz-yes, Stuthman-nv, Sullivan-no, Utter-yes, Wallman-no, White-yes, Wightman-no.

See prior page for notes on today's meeting.
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #121 on: April 02, 2009, 06:10:03 PM »
Aldo you have given us all a terrific report.

Good Job and Thank You
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #122 on: April 02, 2009, 06:29:03 PM »
Quote from: Randy on April 02, 2009, 06:10:03 PM
Aldo you have given us all a terrific report.

Good Job and Thank You

Actually, Randy, all thanks to you and everyone else in NFOA.  This group and this site are a tremendous inspiration and hope for all patriots.  The enthusiasm of everyone is contagious.
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #123 on: April 02, 2009, 07:30:55 PM »
Don't forget to thank the Senators that stood up for us in this effort. Once the voting record is posted, I will try to post a list of those that voted in our favor
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #124 on: April 02, 2009, 11:11:00 PM »
Quote from: Randy on April 02, 2009, 06:10:03 PM
Aldo you have given us all a terrific report.

Good Job and Thank You

I second this motion!

Your reports have been great, Aldo.
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #125 on: April 03, 2009, 02:21:29 PM »
I just recieved an E-Mail from Ken Haar (who voted no on AM936) indicating that he would support LB430.
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #126 on: April 03, 2009, 04:30:41 PM »
Quote from: LutherRev on April 03, 2009, 02:21:29 PM
I just recieved an E-Mail from Ken Haar (who voted no on AM936) indicating that he would support LB430.

In my email,  He also stated that Lincoln had "opted out" of concealed carry... not very informed are we Kenny
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #127 on: April 03, 2009, 04:40:34 PM »
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #128 on: April 03, 2009, 06:55:50 PM »
A big thank you to all who have testified and kept us updated durring this.
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #129 on: April 03, 2009, 07:21:49 PM »
So, a little help here. What and when is the next action? More to the point when will this be final, and made law?
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #130 on: April 03, 2009, 08:04:19 PM »
Next round is Select File.
Select File is the second debating and voting stage. This step allows another opportunity for amendment, compromise and reflection. Bills on Select File may be indefinitely postponed or advanced to the next stage. After Select File, bills are sent to E&R again to be rechecked. Bills then are reprinted for Final Reading.

Final Reading

Before final passage, all bills are constitutionally required to be read aloud in their entirety by the Clerk of the Legislature, unless three-fifths (30 members) of the Legislature votes to waive the requirement. A bill may not be amended or debated on Final Reading, but may be returned to Select File for a specific amendment. Bills may not be voted on for final passage until at least five legislative days after the bill is introduced, and one legislative day after it is placed on Final Reading.

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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #131 on: April 04, 2009, 09:00:23 PM »

Can't thank you guys enough - especially FarmerRick and Aldo. I have been passing along your reports to other friends who are not members here. At least 3 of them, besides myself, have sent emails and/or snail mails to our state Senators. You are reaching more than just the members here.

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Amendment993 introduced by Senator Avery
« Reply #132 on: April 09, 2009, 03:32:40 AM »
Avery's AM993 is not good at all! I don't like the fact that the vote on this was 29 ayes, 0 nayes, 17not voting, 3 absent. Are the pro people just agreeing with every amendment so we can just get the bill passed?!!

This amendment is a problem because anyone who drives to a school, college, or university etc. is not allowed to have a loaded gun in their own vehicle and the gun needs to be encased. Which means this would include CCW people. Furthermore, if you are a student you cannot possess a gun in your vehicle at all even if you have a CCW permit!

I have a permit. I am a university student. So for instance I go do my errands for the day and have my loaded gun on my person. My first stop is the university to make a short stop at the bookstore to buy or sell a book. Oops, I cant go now because I have a gun. This means I have to leave the gun at home, and then go back to campus and do my business. Then I after go back home, get my gun and then continue on with errands! This is not fair.

Christensen should amend this to allow adult students or nonstudents with a Concealed Handgun Permit to be exempt from this rule as long as they don't remove the handgun from the vehicle. If they want to ban guns on university and college property fine! But they shouldn't be dictating what I can or cannot possess in my vehicle. I think this is a clear violation of the 2nd Amendment and the Nebraska constitution.
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #133 on: April 09, 2009, 10:55:06 AM »
have to agree... 993 is a mess, it violates the original intent which was clarity and consistency no matter where you are in the state...
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #134 on: April 09, 2009, 01:59:13 PM »
Also contacted my senator and got reply from her as will trying to keep free from too many amements go gang....
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #135 on: April 10, 2009, 10:11:39 AM »
This is what I received from Senator Bill Avery...

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I plan to vote for this bill when it comes up again for second round debate.  I managed to get it amended on first round to more clearly define "schools" so that college and universities were included.  With that amendment, I voted to advance the bill and will continue to support it through Final Reading.
Thanks for contacting me.  I appreciate your interest in the legislative process.
Sen. Bill Avery

Is he a little confused or am I?  I didn't think LB430 addressed school carry.  Is he thinking of the original CC legislation?

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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #136 on: April 10, 2009, 10:23:09 AM »
Avery's amendment AM993 to LB 430 addresses possession of firearms on school property and at at school functions and changes the definition of a school to include all colleges and universities

http://uniweb.legislature.ne.gov/FloorDocs/Current/PDF/AM/AM993.pdf
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #137 on: April 10, 2009, 08:25:07 PM »
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Avery's amendment AM993 to LB 430 addresses possession of firearms on school property and at at school functions and changes the definition of a school to include all colleges and universities

Ahhhh...I will try to keep up.

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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #138 on: April 13, 2009, 04:05:55 PM »
Quote from: Dan W on April 10, 2009, 10:23:09 AM
Avery's amendment AM993 to LB 430 addresses possession of firearms on school property and at at school functions and changes the definition of a school to include all colleges and universities

http://uniweb.legislature.ne.gov/FloorDocs/Current/PDF/AM/AM993.pdf

Hhhmmmm....I don't like this amendment at all!!  As a CHP holder, why should I not be able to appropriately store my handgun in my vehicle while I am parked on "school" property (even university)....and me not in the vehicle?
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Re: LB430 action needed: contact NE SENATORS
« Reply #139 on: April 13, 2009, 08:42:15 PM »
Aldo, I don't like it either (for Avery's amendment and the "designated Only Ones" for Carry in Church), but is an improvement over what we have.
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