When To Draw- good Ar15.com Article

[Lorimor]

This may well have been posted previously here.  I've read it before somewhere but don't remember where.

Sorry if it's a repeat but it's got some good info in it IMHO.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1285487_Street_robberies_and_you___The_Basics.html

[wcr]

Thanks for posting the link.  I had not seen the article before.

Excellent article well worth the time to read  especially for those who open or concealed carry.

Would like to see any comments from some of the armed self defense instructors out there on the article - especially as to how it may relate to NE laws.

[Lorimor]

I disagree with his advice NOT to call police after an event where no shots are fired.  Otherwise, good stuff.

[abbafandr]

Definitely good stuff.
Lorimor, I'm curious as to why you would call the police if no shots were fired?

[Lorimor]

Definitely good stuff.
Lorimor, I'm curious as to why you would call the police if no shots were fired?

I'd want to get my side of the story on record should these guys actually call in themselves with a story.  I agree that it's unlikely for the thug types to call in and report such an incident but ya just never know.  Plus calling in and giving a description of the would-be assailants might help with an ongoing investigation. 

[bullit]

I'd want to get my side of the story on record should these guys actually call in themselves with a story.  I agree that it's unlikely for the thug types to call in and report such an incident but ya just never know.  Plus calling in and giving a description of the would-be assailants might help with an ongoing investigation. 

+100   

[Lmbass14]

Excellent read

[sjwsti]

I'd want to get my side of the story on record should these guys actually call in themselves with a story.  I agree that it's unlikely for the thug types to call in and report such an incident but ya just never know.  Plus calling in and giving a description of the would-be assailants might help with an ongoing investigation. 

Agreed. I had a student relay a road rage experience were he was chased and eventually cornered in a dead end by a truckload of angry guys. He showed a weapon, they chose not to take things further but did call 911 on him. Even though he was the victim, because they were able to tell their version first, he had a difficult time with the responding officers believing his side of what happened. Eventually they came to the right conclusion and he was not charged.

- Shawn

[bkoenig]

I could maybe see not calling the police if there was no actual confrontation and you didn't actually draw...for example, let's say it's the middle of the night and two shady looking characters start approaching you across the parking lot.  Before they get close you move your hand into position and prepare to draw, and once they see that you're obviously carrying they turn around.  In that case no laws were broken and no one was actually threatened, but it's obvious you were a target until they realized you were armed.  I don't know if a situation like that would warrant calling the police, but any time I had to draw I would DEFINITELY call. 

[gsd]

I could maybe see not calling the police if there was no actual confrontation and you didn't actually draw...for example, let's say it's the middle of the night and two shady looking characters start approaching you across the parking lot.  Before they get close you move your hand into position and prepare to draw, and once they see that you're obviously carrying they turn around.  In that case no laws were broken and no one was actually threatened, but it's obvious you were a target until they realized you were armed.  I don't know if a situation like that would warrant calling the police, but any time I had to draw I would DEFINITELY call. 

What if during said potential confrontation you managed to get a solid look at both individuals? And later returned home to see on the news that several burglaries/muggings had happened in your area?

I myself would view any situation where I even "made ready to draw" as reason enough to notify law enforcement. (JMO, take it for what you may)