Concealed Carry and contact with Law Enforcement

[Hoot]

I was stopped today by a city police officer and issued a ticket for speeding.  I have a concealed carry permit but I was not carrying at the time of the traffic stop.  When the officer asked me to sign the ticket, he said he noticed I had a CCW permit and he wanted to know if I was carrying.  I replied no and told him I knew that if I was carrying, I am required to notify him in the state of Nebraska.  Does anyone know if it is common practice for law enforcement to ask this?   

[SemperFiGuy]

Haven't heard of any LEO asking a non-notifying CHP holder about presence of a handgun, such as you described.   However, certainly could happen, as in your case.

As you indicate, notification isn't required in Nebraska when not packing.  However, many non-packing CHP holders will still voluntarily notify the LEO up front as a courtesy that they are not packing simply to clarify the situation and avoid possible complications during the traffic stop.

Interesting YouTube Video:
LEO stops a citizen in another state who is packing.   Citizen tries to tell LEO about handgun; LEO screams (in effect) "SHADDUP!!!!".

Then LEO goes absolutely total freak-out ballistic when he learns of the handgun.

Worth a look.

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[SS_N_NE]

Interesting YouTube Video:

Worth a look.

So...wanna share a link or title or something....

[SemperFiGuy]

SS_N_NE:

Yeah, Good Point.

I sorta left it all hanging there.   And knew I'd dunnit.

So--later went looking for that particular video and didn't find that particular one in the time available on this particular holiday.

But....No Biggie.

As an alternative, simply Google <Crazy LEOs>.    Which will be a very sobering set of views, indeed.  No intent here to smear good cops as being "crazy".   Not at all.   But what comes up in response to that search string will give us all a new perspective on the Mean Streets portion of the justice system.

In the meantime, I'll try to find the original video.   It's really scary.   Those folks have handguns, ARs, shotguns, pepper spray, mace, handcuffs, tasers.....all that.   

When their Protect and Serve attitude goes to hell, the citizen is in serious jeopardy.


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[SemperFiGuy]

OK............a little more search found this Little Gem.



It speaks--shouts, actually--all by itself.

Wouldn't want to have been the subject of all that focused attention.

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[SemperFiGuy]

Here's Another One:



Traffic stops involving concealed carry do not always follow the nice, polite steps discussed in Massad Ayoob's video on how to handle a traffic stop.

Notice in both videos the LEOs have basically threatened to gun down the concealed carry permit holder.

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[bullit]

The Canton LEO in the video was fired ... IMHO this nut job should have never been allowed to carry for a living or even own a firearm and it is fortunate no one was killed in one of his fits of rage

[SemperFiGuy]

Another interesting aspect of these videos is that the LEOs seem to consider state-issued lawful concealed carry permits as being at about the same level of validity as Confederate money.

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[Gary]

Cop videos!  Sweet!

This one is a retired sheriff, who assumed the new deputy would recognize the retired old guy, which he did not.

[Lorimor]

So anyway, no, it's not unusual for the LEO to ask if you're carrying after running the paperwork.  They find out.

[tachyonbb]

The Canton LEO (Dan Harliss), was fired, appealed his firing and won reinstatement.  At this time he did not ask to be reinstated.  The arbitrator stated in his written opinion "“What needs to be understood is (there’s) no rule that says an officer (cannot) or should not make threats,”  Harliss did not ask for reinstatement. He is receiving workman's compensation and a disability retirement.

[bullit]

He is receiving workman's compensation and a disability retirement.

"Wow"....... all I can say is "Wow"......

[SS_N_NE]

Wonder how much money would be my pocket if I was not putting out for bogus comp and disability.

[David Hineline]

New company provided lease vehicle, none of my information is on the registration or plate.  I like it, I luv it, I want some more of it.

[barmandr]

If it is a company leased vehicle, make sure you know the company policy concerning firearms and their leased vehicles if they have one.

[bullit]

David what does it matter that none of your information is on the registration or plate? If this is in reference to CHP, recall this is tied to your Operators License.....

[Ronvandyn]

I got stopped about 2 weeks ago because of no tail lights after dark (weird car, headlights come on automatically but not the tail lights).  The cop was pretty nice about it and was standing right next to me as he was having his dispatch run my drivers license.  At the end of the transmission from dispatch she informed him I had a CCW.  I was not carrying at the time so I didnt notify him, but when I heard the notification from the dispatcher I told him that yes I had a CCW but was not carrying.  I turned on the tail lights (stupid car) and that was the end of the contact.  Well, I did tell him that if I had been carrying that notification would have been the first words out of my mouth, we both had a chuckle over that.

[NE Bull]

I heard today that a local LEO told a local Firearms Group that it is MANDATORY that you disclose you CCW right away, whether or not you are carrying at the time.
I know we all have differing opinions on this.  I for one let them know either way, just to not have any hassle. BUT does the law state as such? Maybe we should get a opinion from the AG? settle this once and for all?
 

[FarmerRick]

I heard today that a local LEO told a local Firearms Group that it is MANDATORY that you disclose you CCW right away, whether or not you are carrying at the time.
I know we all have differing opinions on this.  I for one let them know either way, just to not have any hassle. BUT does the law state as such? Maybe we should get a opinion from the AG? settle this once and for all?

Not needed in my opinion, the statute is pretty clear. Seems some LEO's need some training on the laws.

[bullit]

No AG opinion needed.  The statute is clear..carrying = must notify. ..not carrying = not required to. ..take home message ....never ask a cop about the law especially an ignorant (dictionary definition) one...