No Indictment for Ferguson LEO Darren Wilson

[ILoveCats]

I nominate this thread for the title, "most meandering stream of consciousness."  Shall I post a cocktail recipe to celebrate? 

http://cocktail.com/2012/06/04/flaming-zombie/

[OnTheFly]

I nominate this thread for the title, "most meandering stream of consciousness."  Shall I post a cocktail recipe to celebrate? 

http://cocktail.com/2012/06/04/flaming-zombie/

Hey! Zombie physics are VERY relevant to this conversation.   

Fly

[JTH]

Hey! Zombie physics are VERY relevant to this conversation.   

Zombies, and dealing with them, are relevant to EVERY meaningful conversation.

Humph.

[greg58]

I nominate this thread for the title, "most meandering stream of consciousness." [/url]

Perhaps a little more meandering!!

[JimP]

"Oh, the Humility!"

[depserv]

I think those who protested and rioted are motivated by a hatred of their condition. They don't want to admit to themselves that they themselves are the ones responsible for their condition, and that self deception is reinforced by self-serving politicians and liars in the liberal media. Hatred seems to seek a human face, and this police officer who defended himself and other innocent people from a violent criminal became that face, with the help of race baiters.

[SemperFiGuy]

I think those who protested and rioted are motivated by a hatred of their condition. They don't want to admit to themselves that they themselves are the ones responsible for their condition, and that self deception is reinforced by self-serving politicians and liars in the liberal media

We have here one of the most trenchant observations ever posted on this Forum.   

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[SANDHILLBILLY]

More meandering.

http://gunssavelives.net/why-i-carry/why-i-carry-man-is-beaten-to-death-by-teenagers-with-hammers-in-st-louis/

[JTH]

Some good writing from Tim over at Gun Nuts Media:

http://www.gunnuts.net/2014/12/01/dear-post-ferguson-lawyers-shut-up/

One well-put part:
"It’s absurd to live in a society where we hear the chief executive argue that he has sufficient “prosecutorial discretion” to waive basically all immigration law and yet many of the people who insist that’s proper are trying to throw a fit because the prosecutor in Ferguson presented all the evidence from the Brown shooting to a grand jury."


Also, a really good article (cited in the above link) talking about the grand jury's examination of exculpatory evidence:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/11/no-it-was-not-improper-for-ferguson-grand-jury-to-consider-self-defense/

[GreyGeek]

Two days after Ferguson Dillon Taylor was shot twice by Officer Brun Cruz, described as "non-White" (probably Hispanic),  while Taylor backing away from the policeman.   Taylor was shot while raising his shirt to show he was unarmed, it is claimed.


Like Brown, Taylor was a troubled person.  Like Brown his blood panel showed behavior altering chemicals.   He also had disturbing posts on social media.  Like Officer Wilson, Officer Cruz was cleared of any wrong doing.   Unlike Wilson, Cruz did not feel the need to resign.  And, unlike Ferguson, there were no protest movements demanding that Officer Cruz be prosecuted for murder and not a single business or car was burned down.

Why so little news of this in the media?  Perhaps because Officer Cruz was "non-White" and Taylor was White.  Is it rare?  Not as rare as you would think:
http://www.texasgopvote.com/issues/restore-families/justice-james-black-cop-shoots-unarmed-white-veteran-orange-tx-over-racial-slur-0057061

Remember Trayvon Martin?  Sure.   Do you remember Christopher Cervini?  Of course not.  It was virtually ignored;  The neighborhood watchman was Black and the kid was White:

Terry Swoope thinks the media is trying to start a race war.  Swoope is Black.

http://www.beaumontenterprise.com/news/crime/article/UPDATE-Incident-report-provides-details-in-729907.php

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/defense-attorney-racial-slur-preceded-deadly-road-rage-shooting/2013/06/11/7f8552a4-d29d-11e2-a73e-826d299ff459_story.html?hpid=z2

and so on...

Of those people killed by Police, which is about 400 per year, 32% were Black and  64% were White.  Based on population (14% Black, 67% White) Blacks were twice as likely to be killed.

Officer Wilson and Officer Cruz both made a decision that every policeman faces sooner or later.  Do they go home to their wife and family or do they die on the street?  Given the facts both were justified in their shooting.   Officer Cruz's situation disappeared from the media because it did not fit the media race war script.    Officer Wilson's situation was fanned into violence by the media.?   Brown's father pleaded no riots or burning.  Brown's stepfather, a two time felon, shouted "burn this baby down!", and off the crowd went.

[Kendahl]

Question about grand juries. In trials, the jury is a passive audience. They can only listen to and base their verdict on evidence presented by the opposing sides. Can members of a grand jury take a more active role, that is, directly question witnesses and direct the prosecutor to investigate a facet of the case?

[UPCrawfish]

Kendahl....     In a short answer, YES.

Grand Juries may ask questions - handle and examine evidence - request visits to the crime scene to develop a better knowledge of the perspectives of the aleged crime..
 
Here is synopsis of the Nebraska Grand Jury Process...https://supremecourt.nebraska.gov/sites/supremecourt.ne.gov/files/misc/jury-service/grand-jury.pdf

[SS_N_NE]

thinks the media is trying to start a race war.

This is sort of where I am at. The media insists on showing childhood pictures of shooting victims suggesting a child was killed. The media tends to not show current pictures that demonstrate an adult and often large size individual.  The media has done numberous things to insite angst.  The current Adminstration got involved and sent the Attorney General to a unknown event that involved two individuals.

Is the goal to start racial unrest? Develop a certain voting public? Smoke screen immigration issues? Something is coming.

[SemperFiGuy]

Something is coming.

Something is here:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/01/us/st-louis-man-killed-hammer-attack/

And the different cast in the tone of the narrative between Micheal Brown news stories and this one is flagrantly noticeable.

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[Dan W]

Is the goal to start racial unrest?

Racial unrest is the tool they are using to hammer out another victory in 2016. The liberal base was not engaged anymore ... BHO's policy failures were rapidly becoming too blatant to ignore even if you are a low/no information voter, and the liberals will never back off their agenda no matter how the last election went.

As Rahm Emanuel so eloquently stated

"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."