Remington ACR on the way?

[Hardwood83]

Has anyone seen these: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/ and http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2009/07/22/remington-acr/ ?

Looks very cool, basically 'modular' that converts to 3 diff calibers (5.56, 6.8, 6.5) with a barrel & bolt swap.  I am afraid the price will be in the SCAR neighborhood, which is hard to justify when it won't do anything an AR or AK won't....but did I mention it's cool?

[Rich B]

Vaporware is not cool.

[Hardwood83]

Come on it will be out any day now....or maybe next week, or the week after but it IS coming. You've gotta believe.

[FarmerRick]

I hear that it's coming out the same day as the new Glock Carbine.



 

[Hardwood83]

Well it DID debut at SHOT....just a huge disappointment in nearly every way, mostly the $3000MSRP!

http://www.bushmaster.com/acr/

Too bad since the original concept from Magpul was pretty cool and was projected for sub $1500. Obviously Remington/Bushmaster don't subscribe to the 'under-promise/over-deliver' school of marketing.

[FarmerRick]

Yeah, that's way too much coin for me.  Plus, they are getting sued by Robinson Arms over it: http://www.professionalsoldiers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=309042

[Chris Z]

Got to hold this and look it over today at the SHOT show. Nice rifle, 2 calibers .223 and 6.8

They say a 7.62x39 will come out next year, and then a .308 later

nice rifle, but too much $$$$$$

[bkoenig]

You can buy a heck of an AR for what they're asking for this thing.  I don't see the point, unless you're one of those guys who feels the need to have the newest toys.

[SBarry]

They will drop like a rock when sales fall sharply like the Microtech STG556.

[Mosin]

The ACR is cool but my vote go's to the MSR (Modular Sniper Rifle).  I am sure is not cheap ether!

http://www.remingtonmilitary.com/MSR/msr.htm#/intro

[Rich B]

So far they're saying that 7.62x39 versions will not use AK mags nor will the upper receivers accommodate AR barrels, two of the biggest selling points of the Masada prototype.

Why pay double the price of a quality rifle when the ACR is made of plastic which supposedly lowers costs?

Initial models are supposed to be in the 8-9 pound range with 1/9" twist barrels and a fixed stock.  FAIL.

[Hardwood83]

Agreed- it is hard to understand how they (Bushmaster) dropped so many features and added weight and came up with a MSRP 2x Magpul's target......wait,what? Paying more for less isn't a great sales pitch.

I didn't start following this until a few months ago but was getting pretty interested, and for ~$1800 with the promised features, probably would have gotten one. Expectations are everything and this was a huge let down.

As for the price dropping- not sure but I would think it will have to come in under $2k to sell in any numbers.

[Sotex]

[Hardwood83]

I saw/handled one of these today for the first time at the Cabela's in LaVista (they're asking $2300 for the basic in either black or FDE, but avail for ~$2k online, Cabela's rep told me they've only sold 2). It is a nifty rifle- doesn't feel as heavy as it sounds (8lbs) but I have been working with my FAL's lately so may be getting acclimated to heavy. I really did like the feel & ergonomics of it, especially the charging handle. Basically if Bushmaster would replace the silly M4 profile barrel (strictly cosmetic- but really aggravating to me) cut a few ounces, and drop the price 25% I'd look into it pretty seriously. As it is I'm more interested in the Ruger SR-556c. Anyone else got an ACR and want to share their experience & pics?

[David Hineline]

Well Bushmaster shipped some out, all were recalled because they operated full auto, now Bushmaster is closing their operation until Remington finds a place to re-open production with the Bushmaster name.

[Hardwood83]

Yeah- I've continued to follow the ACR, but not too closely. I did read on arfcom that approx 5000 rifles sold prior to the recall. Also, I have seen that some NIB have gone as low as $1500. IF that price becomes standard and IF caliber conversions & barrel options materialize it can still be a successful & interesting platform. I hope it succeeds.