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Offline shooter

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having your weapon print.
« on: April 17, 2015, 10:23:03 PM »
 since the carry permit lets me carry a weapon,  is it illegal for it to print when under your shirt?  If people can open carry, why would showing a little outline of the weapon once in awhile be a problem?
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Re: having your weapon print.
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2015, 08:39:36 AM »
I don't think it is anything to worry about.  Most people are so oblivious to what's going on around them.  Besides, Nebraska doesn't have a law against brandishing... yet.

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Re: having your weapon print.
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2015, 01:23:24 PM »
since the carry permit lets me carry a weapon,  is it illegal for it to print when under your shirt?  If people can open carry, why would showing a little outline of the weapon once in awhile be a problem?

A permit allows the permitholder to legally carry a concealed _handgun_, not just any kind of weapon. It does not, for example, give legal cover for carrying one's concealed Bill Bagwell Hell's Belle bowie knife.

However, while the permit is officially a "Concealed Handgun Permit," it also means that local firearms ordinances are preempted for the permitholder. There is no state law ban on the open carrying of firearms with the exception of some powers granted to the Nebraska Game & Parks Commission. Local ordinances regulating the open carry of firearms are preempted for permitholders. This means that there is no legal prohibition on the open carry of firearms that are otherwise legally in one's possession, while one is in a place where he has a right to be, and absent some other facts that tend to suggest a criminal threat or other crime (e.g., you shout profanity, say "I am going to get you!," and pull up your shirt to show your firearm; or you are in possession of illegal drugs).
« Last Edit: April 18, 2015, 01:27:33 PM by CitizenClark »

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Re: having your weapon print.
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2015, 02:40:48 PM »
A permit allows the permitholder to legally carry a concealed _handgun_, not just any kind of weapon. It does not, for example, give legal cover for carrying one's concealed Bill Bagwell Hell's Belle bowie knife.

The Second Amendment allows us to carry the knife you mention, concealed or in the open; our state government just does not obey the law.  But we can hope that with enough effort from patriots one day it will.

Regarding things like printing, even though that in and of itself won't get you arrested, it might still be a problem, so it is wise to try to find a carry method that keeps your gun well hidden.  For example, a member of the liberal cattle herd might see it and feel the fear that her thought masters programmed into her and call 911.  An officer should not be dispatched in a case like that but you never know, and you never know what that might lead to.  Maybe nothing but a friendly encounter between you and a nice police officer who agrees with you about how stupid the liberal fool who made the call was, but at the very least it's a disruption in whatever you're doing, and it might accidentally lead to a bigger problem.  Also, you don't want a bad guy knowing what you have and where you have it.
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Re: having your weapon print.
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2015, 03:26:55 PM »
The concern I have with obvious printing is a false accusation of the legal carrier doing illegal things, similar to SWATing
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Re: having your weapon print.
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2015, 11:30:17 PM »
 yea. I guess Swatting would be my major concern
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Re: having your weapon print.
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2015, 10:25:20 AM »
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a member of the liberal cattle herd might see it and feel the fear that her thought masters programmed into her and call 911.

‘Zackly what happened.  (Only this time it was a "he" that called.)

Here’s the Whole Ugly Story.   Ended Badly….   Very Badly:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/cops-gun-down-man-for-legally-carrying-firearm/


Not Very Good Reading.

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Re: having your weapon print.
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2015, 11:15:43 AM »
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Re: having your weapon print.
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2015, 12:07:25 PM »
http://gunssavelives.net/blog/company-to-sell-fake-decoy-guns-to-people-who-want-to-appear-to-be-armed-but-not-own-firearms/

Unless gun printing is all part of the appearance of being armed?

Isn't another name for these 'toys'? There is a lot of dumb behind that idea.
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Re: having your weapon print.
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2015, 01:10:28 PM »
‘Zackly what happened.  (Only this time it was a "he" that called.)

Here’s the Whole Ugly Story.   Ended Badly….   Very Badly:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/cops-gun-down-man-for-legally-carrying-firearm/


Not Very Good Reading.

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That is beyond horrible. And some of the user comments are horrible too, some think the cops did the right thing by shooting him!

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Re: having your weapon print.
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2015, 07:39:42 PM »
I brought this up at my CCW class 4/12/15.  The instructor of this class is an NSP lieutenant. He said that unless the weapon is actually visible, then it is concealed legally. Now obviously we don't want flaunt but I feel more at ease in case of an accidental printing exposure.