IDPA Nebraska Indoor "BUG" Match

[Aldo]

NOTE: THIS MATCH IS A "BUG (Back Up Gun) MATCH"!!!  The IDPA "gun box" will be used to check each handgun...if it fits, it gets used; if it doesn't fit, it does not get used (other than for a Not For Competition category IN ADDITION to being moved to the back of the registration list).

For specifics of a BUG Match, read the IDPA rulebook: http://members.idpa.com/Content/Rules/x2gukat1.wyt.pdf

NOTE: PLEASE INCLUDE YOUR EMAIL WHEN YOU REGISTER THROUGH UBERSCOREMASTER IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN AUTOMATIC EMAIL SENT FROM UBERSCOREMASTER WHEN THE SCORES ARE POSTED. Online registration link: http://www.idpamatchsignup.com?matchid=F0BF3A56-914D-44D9-8062-F5E4A7832445

NOTE: FOR THIS MATCH, WE WILL BE USING THE "1-SECOND PENALTY FOR EACH POINT DOWN"!!

NOTE: VOLUNTEERS ARE NEEDED TO HELP SET UP THE STAGES SATURDAY, December 5, 7:45am.

Doors open at 8:15am for payment and walk-in registrations. Briefing and walk through at 8:45am. Match begins at 9:00am.

2-Stages. $10 for non-members of Thunder Alley Indoor Shooting Range; $5 members. Payment made on-site.

Priority of squadding/shooting is based on date/time of online registration AND scoresheets prepared in advance.

ONLINE REGISTRATION ENDS AT 5:00PM, FRIDAY, DECEMBER 4. There is walk-in registration Saturday morning, but you will be added to the end of the list; possible that you may not be able to shoot if time does not allow.

Questions:
Ron Attanasio, Match Director, IDPA Nebraska
info@idpanebraska.com

[JTH]

NOTE: FOR THIS MATCH, WE WILL BE USING THE "1-SECOND PENALTY FOR EACH POINT DOWN"!!

Why?  That hasn't been made official at all, and there is a 2-year moratorium on changing rules in the rulebook...

[JTH]

Question:  For the last BUG match, IDPA Nebraska said:
"Mags for the BUG gun must be the stock mags for the respective BUG gun (i.e., G17 mags cannot be used in a G26)."

...but the rules say:
8.2.6.6.1.6 The firearm with the largest magazine inserted must fit in the IDPA gun test box measuring 7 ¼” x 5 ½” x 1 ?” (184.2mm x 139.7mm x 34.9mm.)
8.2.6.6.1.7 Magazine length (tubes plus base pad) that extend no more than 1.0” (25.4mm) beyond the bottom of the grip.

...this would allow some older G19 mags to be used in a G26, for people who don't have lots of G26 magazines.  Are we still not allowing that, or are we going with the rulebook?

Matter of fact, someone even asked that as an official question using the Q&A tool on IDPA.com:

"Submitted By Peter Hoffman on 6/23/2015 at 1:57 PM
Question is Related To Equipment Rules
Specific Rule (Section 8.2.6.6.1.7)
Question About Current Rule
Does bottom of the gun mean the bottom of the grip or does it mean the bottom of the grip only where the magazine is inserted? A Glock 19 magazine extends less than 1 inch from the bottom of a Glock 26 grip at the rear, but it extends more than 1 inch from the bottom of the grip in the center where the magazine is inserted. Is a Glock 19 magazine legal in a Glock 26 under the BUG rules?
IDPA Response
The measurement is made from the front bottom of the firearm grip to the furthermost point at the front of the magazine, and must be 1.000" or less. "

Are we still going with the "stock mags only" rule, or are we going with the box and the 1" rule from the rulebook?

[Aldo]

Comments and queries are greatly appreciated.

1-second rule: IDPA Nebraska has employed this coming "official" change for the past couple or so Tier 1 matches with no issues or complaints. It will be interesting to see how this issue evolves over time (i.e., IDPA HQ either advances it or tosses it into the abyss). 

Re the handgun/magazine query: as long as the aforementioned combo fits in the "IDPA Box with the BUG inserts" as well as complies with the "1-inch rule", then the combo is good to go. 


Aldo
IDPA Nebraska, Match Director

[JTH]

1-second rule: IDPA Nebraska has employed this coming "official" change for the past couple or so Tier 1 matches with no issues or complaints. It will be interesting to see how this issue evolves over time (i.e., IDPA HQ either advances it or tosses it into the abyss). 

So (to be a pain in the butt) we are shooting IDPA matches but not according to the current IDPA rulebook?



(Considering that when they came out with the last rulebook, they said there was a moratorium on changes for at least two years, and the "1 second per point down" commentary didn't have any particular time frame on it...not to mention the backlash against that particular scoring idea that has been a continuing topic of conversation.  Not that IDPA HQ has listened very much to folks in the last...well, ever.)

[Aldo]

As you are already aware....

http://www.multibriefs.com/briefs/idpa/idpa092915.php

When that announcement was made by IDPA HQ via that venue, there were some calls by local shooters to give it a try at our club-level indoor matches...and thus, history was made locally...for the interim. 

[abbafandr]

I guess we're gonna have to aim now

[Aldo]

I guess we're gonna have to aim now

Well, now....there's a novel idea!   

[abbafandr]

The IDPA "gun box" will be used

If this the same gun box used earlier, my G17 would fit in it.  Is there a special box for BUG matches?

[mike_p]

If this the same gun box used earlier, my G17 would fit in it.  Is there a special box for BUG matches?

I believe there is an insert that goes into the box to reduce its size.

From, the IDPA rule book:
8.2.6.2.1.   Handguns  permitted  for  use  in  BUG  matches  must:
8.2.6.2.1.1.   Be  single  action,  double  action,  double  action  only, or striker fired.
8.2.6.2.1.2.   Be  either semi-automatic  or revolver.
8.2.6.2.1.3.   Be  a  center fire  caliber
8.2.6.2.1.4.   Barrel length:
8.2.6.2.1.5.   Semi-automatic:  3.8”  or less.
8.2.6.2.1.6.   Revolver:  3”  or less.

[mike_p]

Ron,
 Previous BUG matches did not require a holster, or reloads on the clock. In looking through the current rule book, I could not find mention of this. Will we need holsters for this match?