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Offline Jito463

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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2019, 12:42:15 AM »
IF...you have a valid CHP then Lincoln does not have the power to require this registration.

But it seems like local FFL's  send it in anyway...at least they used to,  and you would not know if they had unless you asked
At this point, I'm not sure I'll buy another firearm within Lincoln city limits again, CHP exemption notwithstanding.

I heard back in the day of a few cases where they did even after they were notified by then LPD Chief Hop a long Casady that they were not to register sales to CHP holders.

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Probably because the wording says it's not "necessary" to report it, not that they shouldn't report it.  What business does Lincoln have in knowing what firearms I buy?  Fortunately, I've only bought one inside the city limits, and don't even have that one anymore.

I'm very tempted to make it to the council meeting for Monday, and ask the council what this gun registry is being used for and why they think they need it.

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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2019, 08:51:32 AM »
At this point, I'm not sure I'll buy another firearm within Lincoln city limits again, CHP exemption notwithstanding.
Probably because the wording says it's not "necessary" to report it, not that they shouldn't report it.  What business does Lincoln have in knowing what firearms I buy?  Fortunately, I've only bought one inside the city limits, and don't even have that one anymore.

I'm very tempted to make it to the council meeting for Monday, and ask the council what this gun registry is being used for and why they think they need it.

This ordinance is one of the reasons the Derek moved DE Guns out of Lincoln City Limits.
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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2019, 09:34:53 AM »
This ordinance is one of the reasons the Derek moved DE Guns out of Lincoln City Limits.
I figured it was so they could create the outdoor ranges, but that makes sense.  What a dumb and completely useless law.

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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2019, 10:51:42 AM »
They use this registry to find firearms owners who have illegally purchased a firearm under the Lincoln City Ordinances. You can be perfectly legal outside of city limits, but be a prohibited person within city limits. 

Someone on desk duty goes through the "registry" and looks up each person to see if they have any one of the many misdemeanors in Lincoln that result in your loss of the right to own, transport or possess.
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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2019, 11:07:44 AM »
They use this registry to find firearms owners who have illegally purchased a firearm under the Lincoln City Ordinances. You can be perfectly legal outside of city limits, but be a prohibited person within city limits. 

Someone on desk duty goes through the "registry" and looks up each person to see if they have any one of the many misdemeanors in Lincoln that result in your loss of the right to own, transport or possess.

Which does absolutely no good if someone goes just outside of town and buys one, or if they buy from another individual.  Again, this law is dumb and completely useless.

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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2019, 08:55:24 PM »
Ok, I get a little confused reading the legal documents.  My question is, can a person conceal carry in Blair if you have the proper Nebraska permit?
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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2019, 09:17:22 PM »
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Ok, I get a little confused reading the legal documents.  My question is, can a person conceal carry in Blair if you have the proper Nebraska permit?

The City of Blair is pre-empted by Nebraska State Law from setting rules for Concealed Handgun Permits, except for specific publicly sign-posted locations on city property where city officials do not allow concealed carry.  Otherwise, concealed carry is allowed within the City of Blair, so long as all other Nebraska State Concealed Carry laws are observed.  And Federal, of course.

Be sure to read the door signs of buildings before entering.


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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2019, 08:59:30 AM »
This thread evolved mostly into a political discussion, but I'd like to return to the original intent and 'second the motion'. Being a repository of easily-searchable legislation would be not only a great service to Nebraska firearms owners, but also a possible "draw" to call folks' attention to the organization.

On several occasions in the past, we have discussed (complained about, etc.) various nuances such as the prohibition on carrying firearms on snowmobiles.  Or carrying loaded shotguns versus other long arms in vehicles.  Or the need to retreat unless in one's own home.  Or whether it's legal to shoot a coyote with a centerfire rifle during the November firearm deer season.  Etc. etc.

We don't need to provide legal interpretation.  But it would be good to just have the laws and citations all compiled in one area.  Anyone who teaches a concealed carry class probably already has all of this as part of a powerpoint deck which they reference during the classroom portion of the training.

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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2019, 09:32:35 AM »
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Anyone who teaches a concealed carry class probably already has all of this as part of a powerpoint deck which they reference during the classroom portion of the training.

The Nebraska State Patrol has recently moved from individual CHP instructor-developed curricula to a single statewide NSP-developed standard CHP curriculum.  It is now open to any and all viewers who might be interested in its contents.   The PowerPoints can be found at:

https://statepatrol.nebraska.gov/services/concealed-handgun-permits/chp-instructor-curriculum-minimum-requirements

Then scroll down to bottom and clik on Nebraska State Patrol Universal Curriculum.

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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2019, 10:44:07 AM »
Well that's an improvement!

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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2019, 03:56:45 PM »
The City of Blair is pre-empted by Nebraska State Law from setting rules for Concealed Handgun Permits, except for specific publicly sign-posted locations on city property where city officials do not allow concealed carry.  Otherwise, concealed carry is allowed within the City of Blair, so long as all other Nebraska State Concealed Carry laws are observed.  And Federal, of course.

Be sure to read the door signs of buildings before entering.


FWIW,

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Isn't a blanket city property posting in direct violation of the State CCW law, Wymore posted the City building and when I showed the State law to the City Attorney, he directed them to take the signs down...

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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2019, 06:02:07 PM »
you should link to the sources as this info changes so much that the info you post will be out of date at some point in time.  someone will read it and run in to an issue with a law that changes in a city or town down the road. but a link to the state / city source should be maintained up to date.

Could we use the efforts of any interns that the NFOA may have to put this info together, possibly working with any attorney that may be willing and able to oversee and assist with an effort like this. Several state organizations create and publish books of their state laws and sell them as fundraisers.

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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2019, 06:17:00 PM »
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Isn't a blanket city property posting in direct violation of the State CCW law,

FWIW, my posting wasn't about blanket posting.   It pointed to the possibility of the City of Blair having ownership of any city public property, which the city administration would then be able to legally post.   Private property can be posted by such private property owners who wish to do so.

But--to prohibit concealed carry, both city and private property must be posted, except for properties specifically prohibited by the NE Concealed Carry Act and Federal Law.

Which prompted my suggestion to Read the Door Signs.


If you hunt, fish, or carry concealed these days, might as well bring along your attorney and accountant.

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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2019, 06:24:25 PM »
Could we use the efforts of any interns that the NFOA may have to put this info together, possibly working with any attorney that may be willing and able to oversee and assist with an effort like this. Several state organizations create and publish books of their state laws and sell them as fundraisers.

The forum member previously known as feralcatkillr (FMPKAFCK) likes this idea.
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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2019, 07:49:56 AM »
*Duty to retreat as long as it can be done IN COMPLETE SAFETY (Important words emphasized)

*Signage prohibiting Legal Concealed Carry MUST BE CONSPICUOUS (for those of you in Rio Linda, that means right there in your face)

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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2019, 07:57:24 AM »
"Rio Linda"  LOL.

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Re: Local Gun Laws in Nebraska
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2019, 12:57:30 PM »
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The forum member previously known as feralcatkillr (FMPKAFCK) likes this idea.

O-Kayyy..........
Admittedly off topic,

But Every Time I Saw a Forum Posting from the NFOA Member Formerly Known As Feral-You-Know-What, It Gave Me a Great Big Warm Happy Feeling.

Just...........Sayin....,

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