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--- Quote from: m morton on February 28, 2020, 06:57:12 PM ---...and every "person" teacher or student that is stopped - is time , time ticking on the clock , even if it's a quick 1 minute pat down and handcuff and figure out if the person is a teacher at a later time. your an active shooter that 1 min could be?? one more room full of dead people? a few mags emptied and swapped out... your trying to do good BUT the time wasted messing with you cost one more room to be shot up.. was the point i was trying to make .. and it's a no win situation. the history of school shooting, is the shooter strikes fast , keeps shooing till confronted , then shoots him self, or shot by police. this is why police don't stack up and wait out side any more, you get their you go in... more time wasted = more dead.
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Time wasted? How is this any different from a real situation? We don't have one Barney running around checking pockets and purses while the mastermind shooter is in the process of killing more people!
You seem to lack faith in the ability of a good person/people with a gun to defend innocent lives, and also in the ability of law enforcement to effectively manage the situation once they finally arrive on scene.
Instead, it sounds like you are plainly just against banning gun-free zones although you claim not to be.
The truth is, that more civilian gun owners STOP crimes and deaths before they even happen. Otherwise, their ability to neutralize the situation faster than someone can say "Gun!" means so many lives are saved in that time...the time ticking on the clock, as you say.
It seems you would rather have these people defenseless than allow someone to bother getting in the way of everyone running, hiding and being shot at while waiting on the police to arrive after first waiting for someone to make the phone call to begin with.
Yes, lets just allow the killer to have total control because it is too much time wasted to pat down a couple people who are clearly cooperative, while the obvious threat is in progress down the hall.
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There are so many cases of unreported incidents, there are probably many times when a would be shooter changed their mind at the last minute because it wasn't worth the risk of being stopped. We will never know about those cases. We need more of that.
One point I brought up in my first reply was that if a criminal knows there is a good chance they will be stopped, they will often choose to "live to fight another day" or look for an easier target.
Gun-free zones are those easy targets.
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Out of 283 cases, Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]
https://www.concealedcarry.com/news/armed-citizens-are-successful-95-of-the-time-at-active-shooter-events-fbi/
8/8/2019: Read the title of the article carefully...
In Missouri, a Good Guy With a Gun Stepped Up — So Can You
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/in-missouri-a-good-guy-with-a-gun-stepped-up-so-can-you/
6/17/2018:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/18/armed-civilian-kills-gunman-stops-shooting-spree-at-tumwater-wash-walmart/
5/25/2018:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oklahoma-city-shooting-louies-grill-bar-armed-citizen-stops-gunman/
Brief list of only 24 reported incidents between 1991 and 2017:
https://memepoliceman.com/list-of-mass-shootings-stopped-by-armed-civilians/
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