Author Topic: Concealed Carry (Read 2363 times)

Greybeard · « **on:** December 13, 2010, 06:28:52 AM »

Stolen from another forum that I frequent:

A Texan cruises thru a stop sign and gets pulled over by a local policeman.

The Texan hands the cop his driver's license, insurance verification, plus his concealed carry permit.

"Okay, Mr. Smith," the cop says, "I see you have a CHL permit. Are you carrying any weapons today?"

"Yes, I am."

"Well then, better tell me what you've got."

Smith says, "Well, I've got a .357 revolver in my inside coat pocket. There's a 9mm semi-auto in the glove box. And, I've got a .22 magnum derringer in my right boot."

"Okay," the cop says. "Anything else?"

"Yeah, back in the trunk, there's an AR15 and a shotgun. That's about it."

"Mr. Smith, are you on your way to or from a gun range...?"

"Nope."

"Well then, what are you afraid of...?"

"Not a damn thing..."

A-FIXER · « **Reply #1 on:** December 13, 2010, 08:58:57 PM »

HEE.....HEE...:>)

armed and humorous · « **Reply #2 on:** January 28, 2011, 02:16:34 PM »

I love it. Sorry I'm so late reading it. Sounds a lot like my situation would be were I to be stopped. I would have a G26 9mm in the overhead console, an S&W 500 4 inch barrel in the console between the seats, a Kimber 45 in my jacket pocket, and perhaps a S&W .357 airlite in my ankle holster. I don't carry all of them all of the time, or in the same locations, but there have been times when it could have been the case.

The one time I was stopped before the CHP act was passed, I had a Ruger 9mm on my dash. The deputy asked me to hand it over, which I did (reluctantly). He proceeded to eject the magazine and then asked, "Why?" I said, "Why not?"

tut · « **Reply #3 on:** March 17, 2011, 07:03:46 PM »

Quote from: armed and humorous on January 28, 2011, 02:16:34 PM

I love it. Sorry I'm so late reading it. Sounds a lot like my situation would be were I to be stopped. I would have a G26 9mm in the overhead console, an S&W 500 4 inch barrel in the console between the seats, a Kimber 45 in my jacket pocket, and perhaps a S&W .357 airlite in my ankle holster. I don't carry all of them all of the time, or in the same locations, but there have been times when it could have been the case.

The one time I was stopped before the CHP act was passed, I had a Ruger 9mm on my dash. The deputy asked me to hand it over, which I did (reluctantly). He proceeded to eject the magazine and then asked, "Why?" I said, "Why not?"

Why not have a common caliber, if not common magazines as well, as there would never be any time commitment during any "confrontation" as to which firearm you have is what caliber and uses which magazine... While we can easily recognize, and quickly, which gun is which caliber and which mag's they use while cruising to work on a warm spring day while listening to Journey on the radio, would you want to bet your life on being able to quickly do so during the sustained gun fight while adrenaline shoots out of your ears?! (so to speak). I know, I know, it will never happen, statistically, we say. ...But if a sustained situation is not anticipated, why carry so many guns at all?

This is only my opinion, please, but I'd recommend carrying a common caliber and if possible, interchangeable mags if more than one weapon is carried. Examples would be a family of Glocks, or a family of S&W or Springfield Armory XD or XDM line in same calibers. Me? A glock with extra loaded mag's. Sometimes I might have another sister-Glock with me, you know, if I know I'm gunna be in the save-the-neighborhood altercation! ;-)

I just realized why someone might carry different guns with different calibers, weight, etc. Perhaps if the gun you are defending yourself with runs dry you could toss it and bring the next weapon into play. You know, one that shoots differently than the one you just used. It will have different recoil, different muzzle blast, different sight picture, different feel... is that a good idea?

DaveDoolittle · « **Reply #4 on:** March 18, 2011, 04:31:48 PM »

Quote from: tut on March 17, 2011, 07:03:46 PM

Why not have a common caliber,

I have some that have the same caliber and mags for the reasons you note. I also keep a healthy variety of other calibers in the event the SHTF and I run out of my favorite round. Hopefully I'd be able to utilize whatever falls off the truck.

DaveDoolittle · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2011, 04:33:46 PM »

Quote from: Greybeard on December 13, 2010, 06:28:52 AM

A Texan cruises thru a stop sign and gets pulled over by a local policeman.

The Texan hands the cop his driver's license, insurance verification, plus his concealed carry permit.

"Okay, Mr. Smith," the cop says, "I see you have a CHL permit. Are you carrying any weapons today?"

"Yes, I am."

"Well then, better tell me what you've got." >>>>

I know it's just a joke, but Texas law doesn't require a CHL holder to notify LE of weapons or permit status during a traffic stop.

Jesse T · « **Reply #6 on:** March 18, 2011, 04:56:19 PM »

Funny story for sure.

Why does every cop that stops me ask me why I carry? This has happened at least 4 times to me. Every time I have to stop and make myself be polite and think of some PC answer.

skydve76 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 18, 2011, 05:27:41 PM »

Quote from: Jesse T on March 18, 2011, 04:56:19 PM

Funny story for sure.

Why does every cop that stops me ask me why I carry? This has happened at least 4 times to me. Every time I have to stop and make myself be polite and think of some PC answer.

Answer him by asking why he carries.

red71 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 18, 2011, 06:51:05 PM »

Quote from: Jesse T on March 18, 2011, 04:56:19 PM

Funny story for sure.

Why does every cop that stops me ask me why I carry? This has happened at least 4 times to me. Every time I have to stop and make myself be polite and think of some PC answer.

The only time I got stopped the officer asked me why I wasn't carrying that day

Eagle1 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 18, 2011, 10:54:26 PM »

I suppose the answer "because I am running drugs and the other dealers are trying to steal them" would not be a funny thing to say.
Because I can.
I feel like it.
None of your business.
My wife scares me. I would like to come up with a unique one that would make any LEO laugh.

00BUCK · « **Reply #10 on:** March 19, 2011, 01:48:26 AM »

Quote from: DaveDoolittle on March 18, 2011, 04:33:46 PM

I know it's just a joke, but Texas law doesn't require a CHL holder to notify LE of weapons or permit status during a traffic stop.

This is completely incorrect information. You MUST inform immediately. www.handgunlaw.us
"Sec. 411.205. Requirement to Display License.
If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.
Note: When an Officer ask you for ID you must then give them your Permit/License to Carry when you
give them your ID. If not you are breaking the law. There is no penalty if you don?t inform them but as a law abiding citizen we must follow the law.

DaveB · « **Reply #11 on:** March 19, 2011, 08:15:38 AM »

Quote from: 00BUCK on March 19, 2011, 01:48:26 AM

This is completely incorrect information. You MUST inform immediately. www.handgunlaw.us
"Sec. 411.205. Requirement to Display License.
If a license holder is carrying a handgun on or about the license holder's person when a magistrate or a peace officer demands that the license holder display identification, the license holder shall display both the license holder's driver's license or identification certificate issued by the department and the license holder's handgun license.
Note: When an Officer ask you for ID you must then give them your Permit/License to Carry when you
give them your ID. If not you are breaking the law. There is no penalty if you don?t inform them but as a law abiding citizen we must follow the law.

That is not true, you must "inform" the officer if you have a CCW. I have been through DOT stops twice, have never had to show my CCW permit or tell where the gun is located. When they run your license, they will know you are telling the truth. They don't want you moving around any more than necessary while they are talking to you. There is a penalty if you do not inform them, unless you are not carrying at the time.

00BUCK · « **Reply #12 on:** March 22, 2011, 03:58:19 PM »

Quote from: DaveB on March 19, 2011, 08:15:38 AM

That is not true, you must "inform" the officer if you have a CCW. I have been through DOT stops twice, have never had to show my CCW permit or tell where the gun is located. When they run your license, they will know you are telling the truth. They don't want you moving around any more than necessary while they are talking to you. There is a penalty if you do not inform them, unless you are not carrying at the time.

You may want to work with Gary over at www.handgunlaw.us and see if he will change his info then.

DaveB · « **Reply #13 on:** March 22, 2011, 05:06:18 PM »

Quote from: 00BUCK on March 22, 2011, 03:58:19 PM

You may want to work with Gary over at www.handgunlaw.us and see if he will change his info then.

Gary has it right on the site at the beginning of page 5. It only says you have to inform the officer, not hand them your permit. Although, I see no problem with handing over your permit if you so desire. I have been through two stops and have never had to after informing the officer that I had a permit and a gun.

DaveB · « **Reply #14 on:** March 22, 2011, 05:15:29 PM »

This is directly from the SP website.

Do I have to tell people I have a concealed handgun?

If you are a permit holder carrying a concealed handgun and are officially contacted by any peace officer or emergency services personnel, you must immediately inform the peace officer or emergency service personnel of the concealed handgun unless you are physically unable to do so. These individuals have the right to determine whether it is necessary to secure the handgun during the contact for the safety of any person.

It is the exact same thing Gary has posted. I am not finding sec. 411.205 yet, I will continue looking for it.

RLMoeller · « **Reply #15 on:** March 22, 2011, 05:22:25 PM »

Are you two of you discussing the same state?

DaveB · « **Reply #16 on:** March 22, 2011, 05:34:22 PM »

I don't know, I found the 411.205, but not anywhere in the Nebraska regs. Texas has it. I am talking about Nebraska, maybe I missed something, I'll go back and read again.

Read back, I guess they were talking about TX. My mistake.

From DaveDoolittle
I know it's just a joke, but Texas law doesn't require a CHL holder to notify LE of weapons or permit status during a traffic stop.

That is not a true statement. TX is a must inform and hand the Permit to the cop, but, there is no longer a penalty if you don't from what I have read. That makes no sense to me.

Dark Helmet · « **Reply #17 on:** March 22, 2011, 07:49:05 PM »

I was travelling last weekend with 4 guns...

P2000SK IWB at about 3:45, P30 in the glove box, and my 22 target guns (long and short) in the trunk.

bullit · « **Reply #18 on:** March 23, 2011, 06:33:44 AM »

Being a former TX resident and having family that are (and had TX CHPs), you do NOT have to inform LEOs, BUT you must give them your permit with your DL.
I was pulled over about 2 yrs ago and when I told the LEO and handed him my permit, he could've cared less. He was more interested in giving me my $213 prize for 45 in a 30........

00BUCK · « **Reply #19 on:** April 03, 2011, 01:10:14 AM »

Yep Dave, I was talking about Texas, as that was the subject at the time of my post.

Author Topic: Concealed Carry (Read 2363 times)

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