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Offline skydve76

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Carrying, end of day
« on: March 20, 2011, 08:40:44 PM »
I've read that over time, chambering the same round can cause it to FTF eventually.  Is there any merit to this?  Something about setting.

I don't ever un chamber my gun.  I leave it in a nice IWB holster, and just take the holster off with the gun in it  and put it in my safe.  I just leave it RTF for about a week or more at a time.  Is this a bad practice?  I carry an XD9 SC not sure if it is hard on it to leave it chambered for a long period of time.

After a week, I'll unchamber it and whipe it down with remoil on the outside. 
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Re: Carrying, end of day
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2011, 08:57:24 PM »
Quote from: skydve76 on March 20, 2011, 08:40:44 PM
I've read that over time, chambering the same round can cause it to FTF eventually.  Is there any merit to this?  Something about setting.

 
 

I leave my G30 loaded all the time too.

The issue as I see it is repeated chambering can drive the bullet back into the case and cause a high pressure situation due to setback.  Can be a bad situation if you carry a 40cal
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Re: Carrying, end of day
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2011, 05:37:59 PM »
Quote from: Dan W on March 20, 2011, 08:57:24 PM
I leave my G30 loaded all the time too.

The issue as I see it is repeated chambering can drive the bullet back into the case and cause a high pressure situation due to setback.  Can be a bad situation if you carry a 40cal

I have noted this with my XD-40 SC, but have been able to fix it by removing the bullet and reseating it.  The chambering over and over again of the same round causes it.  Since I noticed it the first time I have taken care to unload my mags occasionally and restack them making sure to use a different chamber round each time.

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Re: Carrying, end of day
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2011, 06:16:38 PM »
Is it possible to prevent setting by slowly letting the slide come forward, to keep so much pressure off the round?
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Re: Carrying, end of day
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2011, 02:30:26 PM »
Quote from: skydve76 on March 23, 2011, 06:16:38 PM
Is it possible to prevent setting by slowly letting the slide come forward, to keep so much pressure off the round?

You can do that I suppose, but doing so does not ensure that the weapon goes to full battery or that the extractor engages the casing. 

What I have found works well is inserting the first round into the chamber by hand and closing the slide, not allowing the slide to chamber the round.  That does not remove the push down of the round but it does seem to reduce it.

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Re: Carrying, end of day
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2011, 02:56:48 PM »
Quote from: skydve76 on March 23, 2011, 06:16:38 PM
Is it possible to prevent setting by slowly letting the slide come forward, to keep so much pressure off the round?

Thats what I do, I just give the back of the slide a good rap with the palm of my hand to ensure it is in battery.

Use caution when dropping the slide on a round inserted into the chamber. This is hard on the extractor as the round is meant to come up under and behind the hook.

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Re: Carrying, end of day
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2011, 05:36:02 PM »
Or you could carry a revolver and not have to worry about it.
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Re: Carrying, end of day
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2011, 05:50:18 PM »
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Thats what I do, I just give the back of the slide a good rap with the palm of my hand to ensure it is in battery.

That's a great way to break a 1911 style extractor
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Re: Carrying, end of day
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2011, 06:24:53 PM »
Quote from: justsomeguy on March 24, 2011, 05:50:18 PM
That's a great way to break a 1911 style extractor

 Now if you mean hitting the slide to get the extractor to go over the rim of a cartridge that is in the chamber, then I agree. That will absolutely damage an extractor.

Im talking about loading normally. The extractor is ahead of the rim as it should be. You ride the slide forward to reduce the deformation of a round that is continually re-chambered. Then give the slide a tap to ensure it is in battery. I cant see how that would damage an extractor in any way.

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Re: Carrying, end of day
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2011, 07:03:47 PM »
Exactly. I was picturing a person dropping a round into an empty chamber then dropping the slide on that.

When loading from the magazine all should be well. ;D
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Re: Carrying, end of day
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2011, 06:01:18 AM »
I never unchamber mine either. About once a month I take it to the range and shoot the chambered round, then reload with range ammo for the rest of the session. I  bring another gun along to carry on the way home from the range. I clean and reload after I get home.
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Re: Carrying, end of day
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2011, 07:33:21 PM »
Quote from: justsomeguy on March 24, 2011, 07:03:47 PM
Exactly. I was picturing a person dropping a round into an empty chamber then dropping the slide on that.

When loading from the magazine all should be well. ;D

Thats what I have been doing.  Can some do this or not?  I have and XD 9 sc.

I have having to put in the mag chamber, then pul the mag out and drop in another round.  Is this what I have to do?
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Re: Carrying, end of day
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2011, 07:52:27 PM »
1. Place the EMPTY magazine in the magazine well,
located in bottom of pistol grip. Push firmly enough
on bottom of magazine to make sure it is properly
seated. A distinctive “click” will confirm the
magazine has been properly inserted. Pull the slide
all the way to the rear, until it locks back.
2. Depress magazine release and remove magazine.
3. Insure that you are using the proper caliber
ammunition for your pistol. Place rim of first
cartridge on front of follower. Then
push down on the follower and slide cartridge
under the lips of the magazine and to the rear.
Load successive rounds the same way. Use only
clean, dry, original, high-quality, commercially
manufactured ammunition.
4. Re-insert magazine into magazine well, located in
bottom of pistol grip. Push firmly enough on bottom
of magazine to make sure it is properly seated.
5. Point gun in a safe direction and keep finger off
trigger. Depress the slide stop lever to allow slide to
move forward and load a shell from the magazine
into the chamber.
6. The loaded chamber indicator will be in the up
position.
7. The striker status indicator will be protruding out of
the rear of the receiver in the “cocked” position.
Caution: The gun is now ready to fire.


Straight from the Springfield manual.
http://pdf.textfiles.com/manuals/FIREARMS/springfieldarmory_xd.pdf
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Re: Carrying, end of day
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2011, 08:11:03 PM »
I've done that before in a 1911 without a problem. I've also run with scissors. I probably could continue to do both up to a point but when I reach that point I'll wish I hadn't.
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Re: Carrying, end of day
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2011, 12:44:59 PM »
http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19881

^ This is specifically about AR15/M4/M16 rechambering, but it is similar for handguns as well.

Once you unload that round, I'd recommend not chambering it again for carry or "duty" use. Put it away and use it for training.

Is this absolutely 100% necessary? Maybe not... But I'm the type that if I drop my motorcycle helmet, I go and buy a new one. I don't like to take chances. It's designed to go bang once just like the helmet.
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