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Offline unfy

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OffTopic: ticketed for "suspicion of misdemeanor assault" - wtf ?
« on: October 14, 2011, 07:37:01 PM »
This is not me, nor anyone I know, etc etc etc.

http://www.ketv.com/news/29484730/detail.html

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What's puzzling to me is:

"Lincoln police ticketed William Burke on suspicion of misdemeanor assault."

.... is.... this a ticket with a fine / fee ?

Is he being forced to pay a fine on suspicion alone ?

See... I can understand 'arrested for...' etc... where you can go to court and such stuff... but... this seems ..... ludicrous ?  Police can say they hear bad things about something they can't prove you did... and you have to pay a fine ?

I sincerely hope there was no fine / fee / etc in place for this and it's more or less just a paper trail that Mr. Burke has been noted for possibly causing problems in the past.

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Re: OffTopic: ticketed for "suspicion of misdemeanor assault" - wtf ?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2011, 07:42:08 PM »
This looks like the vague type of charge Chief Hayes in Omaha would use to control  guns with his new statute.   RJ.
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Re: OffTopic: ticketed for "suspicion of misdemeanor assault" - wtf ?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2011, 08:01:44 PM »
You are assuming a "ticket" means no court appearance, it does not.

Even when a traffic ticket is issued, you must appear in court unless the circumstances allow you waive the trial and pay a fine and court costs.

The ticket is an order to appear in court
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Re: OffTopic: ticketed for "suspicion of misdemeanor assault" - wtf ?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2011, 08:12:39 PM »
Quote from: Dan W on October 14, 2011, 08:01:44 PM
You are assuming a "ticket" means no court appearance, it does not.

Even when a traffic ticket is issued, you must appear in court unless the circumstances allow you waive the trial and pay a fine and court costs.

The ticket is an order to appear in court

Awesome reply, thanks Dan!

Makes more sense now.
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Re: OffTopic: ticketed for "suspicion of misdemeanor assault" - wtf ?
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2011, 08:36:07 PM »
Kids! Looks like they need a time out.
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Re: OffTopic: ticketed for "suspicion of misdemeanor assault" - wtf ?
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2011, 08:40:05 PM »
Quote from: unfy on October 14, 2011, 08:12:39 PM
Awesome reply, thanks Dan!

Makes more sense now.

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Re: OffTopic: ticketed for "suspicion of misdemeanor assault" - wtf ?
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2012, 02:30:49 PM »
I say, "Put them both in a cage match, no rules, and let 'em fight it out to the death."  Shouldn't take long.  :)
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Re: OffTopic: ticketed for "suspicion of misdemeanor assault" - wtf ?
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2012, 11:32:49 AM »
"Suspicion" is a term coined by the media. Law enforcement officers do not arrest for "suspicion."

Defendants are issued citations in lieu of a physical custody arrest and released on their signature
as their promise to appear; or they are booked to guarentee their court appearance for arraignment.

Charges are founded on probable cause, evidence or witness/victim statements - not "suspicion."
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Re: OffTopic: ticketed for "suspicion of misdemeanor assault" - wtf ?
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2012, 02:28:21 PM »
If every time a nursing home resident punches another one got ticketed, the cops would not have to set up speed traps to pay for anything!  This is NOT an isolated incident in a nursing home.
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Re: OffTopic: ticketed for "suspicion of misdemeanor assault" - wtf ?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 07:19:21 AM »
Quote from: dcjulie on February 01, 2012, 02:28:21 PM
If every time a nursing home resident punches another one got ticketed, the cops would not have to set up speed traps to pay for anything!  This is NOT an isolated incident in a nursing home.

Very true. Several media sources released investigative stories after the high-profile death of an Alzheimer's patient at a Bloomington, Minnesota nursing home: http://www.startribune.com/local/north/40326907.html?page=all&prepage=1&c=y#continue
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