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Offline Dan W

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Full circle - learn from history or repeat it
« on: January 07, 2012, 07:15:58 PM »
I light of recent events can you name the author of this quote ( no fair googling )


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Re: Full circle - learn from history or repeat it
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2012, 08:00:24 PM »
Sorry, I had to Google it, so I won't spoil, but it blows my mind how those that came before us could so accurately 'see' what was happing in their times, but also what would happen to/because of future generations.  To quote a favorite line from National Treasure: "People just don't talk like that anymore."  I hope we -U.S.- are not too far gone to never return to being the nation our forefathers envisioned!
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Re: Full circle - learn from history or repeat it
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2012, 08:20:10 PM »
I had to Google it too.  It does appear that Santayana was correct about learning from history.   :(
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Re: Full circle - learn from history or repeat it
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2012, 09:33:02 AM »
I'm guessing Benjamin Franklin.  Now, I'll Google it.  :)
Gun related issues are, by nature, deadly serious.  Still, you have to maintain a sense of humor about them.

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Re: Full circle - learn from history or repeat it
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2012, 02:06:37 PM »
Nigel Tufnel?  I'll go with Ben Franklin as well.
"It is better to avoid than to run; better to run than to de-escalate; better to de-escalate than to fight; better to fight than to die. The very essence of self-defense is a thin list of things that might get you out alive when you are already screwed." – Rory Miller

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Re: Full circle - learn from history or repeat it
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2012, 02:20:37 PM »
Sorry Lorimar:

Didn't mean to confuse you with the power of suggestion.   I was wrong, but I won't spoil it for others wishing to guess.  :)
Gun related issues are, by nature, deadly serious.  Still, you have to maintain a sense of humor about them.

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Re: Full circle - learn from history or repeat it
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2012, 09:31:03 PM »
I'm not saying they get everything correct, but according to Snopes, this quote is falsely attributed.

ETA...And, if you don't like Snopes, here is another source.

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« Last Edit: January 08, 2012, 09:59:47 PM by OnTheFly »
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Re: Full circle - learn from history or repeat it
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2012, 08:00:56 AM »
Oh, so maybe I was right!  :)
Gun related issues are, by nature, deadly serious.  Still, you have to maintain a sense of humor about them.

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Re: Full circle - learn from history or repeat it
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2012, 12:59:17 PM »
Snopes sez it ain't so .....

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lincoln.asp

Who said it then?
The Right to Keep and BEAR Arms is enshrined explicitly in both our State and Federal Constitutions, yet most of us are afraid to actually excercise that Right, for very good reason: there is a good chance of being arrested........ and  THAT is a damned shame.  III.

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Re: Full circle - learn from history or repeat it
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2012, 03:58:00 PM »
OK, I'm going for Nostradamus this time.  He seemed to know everything ahead of time!  :)
Gun related issues are, by nature, deadly serious.  Still, you have to maintain a sense of humor about them.

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Re: Full circle - learn from history or repeat it
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2012, 04:02:31 PM »
Snopes sez it ain't so .....

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lincoln.asp

Who said it then?
I was wondering that too, but I can not find an attribution.  Who knows where this stuff comes from.  Snopes (and other similar sights) are full of information on misquotes and theories on where they originated.  I think through history there have been individuals with some reasonably bright thoughts, but they realize their words won't be as widely embraced if the quote comes from "Joe Schmoe" as opposed to "President Abraham Lincoln".

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Re: Full circle - learn from history or repeat it
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2012, 07:04:46 PM »
Well, crap!  :-[
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Re: Full circle - learn from history or repeat it
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2012, 08:29:56 PM »
Well, crap!  :-[

Yah...I know.  Sorry.

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