Nebraska Law must change...

[Ross Berck]

Just got back from Vegas...Nevada recognizes Nebraska's concealed carry permit.  In Nevada you can carry ANYWHERE....unless there is a metal detector at the entrance(casinos ok,bars ok, etc)...It just dawned on my lightning quick mind that the only places that law abiding citizens are not allowed to carry are also closed off to criminals....In Nebraska where anybody can put a "no guns" sign up and it has force of law behind it, only criminals will have access to guns since the law abiding must leave their guns behind...THIS MUST CHANGE........It is really a hassle to disarm everytime I go to church,school,post office etc, plus leaving my gun in a car even locked up gives opportunity to thieves......

[WingZero]

100% agree.  Does anybody in the legislature have the nads to bring this forward?

[RLMoeller]

bring it forward?  sure.  Think there is any chance in hell of the current liberal anti-gun Judiciary committee allowing it onto the floor of the legislature?  Nada

[Ross Berck]

I think the people are starting to wake up, judging from comments about the 18yr old mom in OK.  Ive had several non gun people comment they didnt know about castle doctrine and were appalled that we didnt have it.   Has anybody here thought about advertising in conjunction with some "good" proposed legislation?  Look at the explosive gun sales since 2008 even with a bad economy, people are becoming more gun rights conscious ...

[AAllen]

I think the people are starting to wake up, judging from comments about the 18yr old mom in OK.  Ive had several non gun people comment they didnt know about castle doctrine and were appalled that we didnt have it.   Has anybody here thought about advertising in conjunction with some "good" proposed legislation?  Look at the explosive gun sales since 2008 even with a bad economy, people are becoming more gun rights conscious ...

http://protectvictimsnow.org/2012/01/protectvictimsnow-org-expands-campaign-to-radio/

[armed and humorous]

I like the idea of the radio spot, and I think it will "wake up" a lot of people who either hadn't thought about the situation at all, or thought mistakenly that the negative ramifications of a self-defense didn't exist here in Nebraska.  It won't change the antis' minds, but probably nothing short of them experiencing the problem first hand ever will.

I don't know what it cost to produce and air this spot, but I would like to see several different versions, each hilighting various aspects of the proposed legislation.  Not only would they enhance the arguments for a castle doctring, but by varying the messages, people wouldn't get turned off by hearing the same spot over and over.

[Dan W]

I don't know what it cost to produce and air this spot, but I would like to see several different versions

This spot runs around $5,000.00 to produce and air 100 times
ProtectVictimsNow.org radio spot

 If you want to see more, then please consider donating $1, $5, $10, or $25 to the ProtectVictimsNow.org operation

[AAllen]

I don't know what it cost to produce and air this spot, but I would like to see several different versions, each highlighting various aspects of the proposed legislation.  Not only would they enhance the arguments for a castle doctrine, but by varying the messages, people wouldn't get turned off by hearing the same spot over and over.

We spent close to $5000 to produce and put this first spot on the air on 3 radio stations that primarily cover the Omaha - Lincoln areas of the state.  These ads will run for 10 days and are expected to reach approximately 73,000 people who will hear them about 3.5 times during that time.

All funds used to Lobby by law must be donations, so I am certain you guys understand that this completely wipes the amount in our treasury that has come from "Donations."  Funds such as are raised from the raffles etc. are not donations and while they are needed to pay expenses such as the hosting of our website and costs dealing with the annual members meeting, they can not be used to pay for these grass roots efforts.  That is why we are asking people to think about donating another $5.00 or more if you can.  We have the desire to run this add or similar adds in more areas of the state as well as doing direct mailings to districts where there is the most need to provide a little push to the Senators to support this bill.  Without replenishing those donated funds we will be unable to do any of those things.

So if you haven't already please take a moment to donate to this effort.

[Ross Berck]

50 sent your way, keep it up...Will we see any legislation to change the insane laws regarding anticcw signs?  The nevada law is very nice ie:carry anywhere there is not a metal detector at the entrance...really puts the criminal at the same armed status as the law abiding(signs only restrict the law abiding)...

[Dan W]

Right now, bills to require the signage to be legally consistent (LB88) and reduce the penalties for violations (LB512) are stuck in the Judiciary committee with little hope of making it out

[Ross Berck]

could a radio spot have an impact on this issue?  I am so tired of disarming....its a real hassle and the ever vigilant criminal could spot me removing my holster and stowing it in my car.  Im talking more about public places than places I can choose not to go.
 The freedom in vegas was refreshing, make them put up metal detectors if they want to keep guns out, signs only disarm the law abiding

[Wesley D]

could a radio spot have an impact on this issue?

Doubtful, rebel.  The judiciary committee makeup needs to change to remove a handful of obstructionist, anti-gun senators before LB88 or LB512 will ever make it to the general floor for all of the senators to discuss and vote on. 

NFOA has been working on signage laws for a few years now.  If you haven't looked at it yet, check out one of our research projects from last year:

http://nebraskafirearms.org/2010/12/nebraska-ccw-law-needs-signage-revision-part-1/
http://nebraskafirearms.org/2010/12/nebraska-ccw-signage-laws-need-revision-part-2/

[Ross Berck]

Ok so does the judiciary committee meet sometime with public comment about lb88/512 allowed???. 

[GO99]

So if you haven't already please take a moment to donate to this effort.
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DONE

[AAllen]

The public hearings on those bills were last year...so now it os just in the domain of us lobbyists and the ocasional note to the Senators from their constituants.

Go get'em  But take a look at the info in last years forum and at the legislatures website before getting to carried away.

[Ross Berck]

What about a voter initiative?  Not sure if that is the right terminology but put it on the ballot during the next election.   Could an initiative be modeled after nevada or even better"constitutional carry", do a media blitz(signs and laws only restrict the law abiding etc), take advantage of the amazing surge in gun owners(records set since 2008 in gun buying and support)  and get it voted in by the people?  If its a real possibility I think I could talk a few fellow farmers into contributing thousands of dollars to that cause....the farm economy is outstanding right now and I know some of those old guys with paid off land that really like guns...

[Dan W]

Right now, bills to require the signage to be legally consistent (LB88) and reduce the penalties for violations (LB512) are stuck in the Judiciary committee with little hope of making it out

I am wrong about LB512... it passed last year with amendments.

It is LB518 I was thinking of. Also stuck in committee

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