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Offline m0par

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ATF == WTF
« on: April 17, 2012, 09:32:23 AM »
Arrgggh!

I sent in apps for 2 stamps just shy of 7 months ago.

Got the call from the dealer that he received 2 stamps.  I was like ;D

Then he told me both stamps were for the same item. I was like  :'(

They sent both stamped form 4s for one item, and no form for the other.

Of course, the one that I didn't get a stamp for is the one I REALLY wanted to pick up.

I wonder how much longer it will take them to straighten this out...
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Offline WESchultz

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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2012, 10:10:48 AM »
I definitely like the "Subject" analogy....LMAO...
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2012, 10:16:59 AM »
Oh thats classic...
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2012, 10:38:45 AM »
Does Govt do ANYTHING well? Anything at all? Wasting money does not count.

Sorry about that- what an irritating hassle. The only good news is I've read a number of times they 'correct' mistakes like this fairly quickly.

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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2012, 12:31:16 PM »
so, let me get this straight, they sent you two Form 4's, both stamped, for the same NFA item?  was this your dealer's mistake?  did he send the same two Form 4's in accidentally?

and sorry to hear about your troubles.  i think you should have your dealer or you call the ATF and speak with the examiner.  since its their mistake, you should get your stamp very fast.
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2012, 12:32:21 PM »
I get it; Weapons Tobacco and Fags. The British translation.
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2012, 01:02:30 PM »
Quote from: RobertH on April 17, 2012, 12:31:16 PM
so, let me get this straight, they sent you two Form 4's, both stamped, for the same NFA item?  was this your dealer's mistake?  did he send the same two Form 4's in accidentally?

and sorry to hear about your troubles.  i think you should have your dealer or you call the ATF and speak with the examiner.  since its their mistake, you should get your stamp very fast.

Yes, they sent both of the stamped form 4s for the same item.

Four forms were sent in. 2 for each item. The dealer couldn't have sent the wrong ones. He didn't have wrong ones to send, unless he made copies and forged signatures, which I'm quite sure was not the case.

They had different numbers written at the top. I'm not sure what those numbers mean. Some sort of record-keeping I suppose. So it would appear that they would have entered the same serial twice in the records and who knows what happened to the other item. Or it could just be a clerical error on the forms themselves, but not in the records (or something like that).

The dealer said he called last Thurs, but had to leave a message for Mr JB and hasn't heard back as of Fri eve.

I hope they don't take another 7 months to straighten it out.
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2012, 01:05:34 PM »
Quote from: Eagle1 on April 17, 2012, 12:32:21 PM
I get it; Weapons Tobacco and Fags. The British translation.
Weapons, Tipple, and Fags maybe?
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2012, 01:12:38 PM »
I am bit more cynical.
BATF = Bastards and A-holes the F***-us.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2012, 01:14:45 PM by skydve76 »
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2012, 01:17:13 PM »
It's now the BATFE - can't forget those explosives!

Bunch of A-holes That F-up Everything
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2012, 04:57:49 PM »
this is very interesting.  please keep us (or at least me) informed!  i would assume that its a mistake.  i hope it is taken care of quickly.
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2012, 10:58:25 PM »
Quote from: Hardwood83 on April 17, 2012, 10:38:45 AM
Does Govt do ANYTHING well? Anything at all? Wasting money does not count.

Of course they do!  There's the United States Postal Service...er...wait...how about social security....uhh...well there is always...oh, never mind.

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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2012, 09:48:37 AM »
Well, I guess that wasn't too bad. Dealer said the other stamp is in, and everything is GTG.
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2012, 11:24:32 AM »
Quote from: m0par on April 25, 2012, 09:48:37 AM
Well, I guess that wasn't too bad. Dealer said the other stamp is in, and everything is GTG.

Buy 2 stamps get the 3rd one FREE!
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2012, 02:06:50 PM »
Quote from: Hardwood83 on April 25, 2012, 11:24:32 AM
Buy 2 stamps get the 3rd one FREE!
Being we're talking about the Government here ..... :-\
You know it's not get the 3rd one free.

They are going to come back saying Oh so sorry!
We made a mistake!
You need to return 2 of those within 10 days
and we need you to also send the 3rd one back as well for intrest
or face you'll face a severe penalty.

 
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2012, 07:40:03 PM »
thats cool!  im glad everything came out ok for you.
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2012, 07:54:02 PM »
They sent one of my forms back because, as they said, the "signatures look too similar"
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2012, 11:29:12 AM »
Quote from: wallace11bravo on April 25, 2012, 07:54:02 PM
They sent one of my forms back because, as they said, the "signatures look too similar"

OK, that's scary.  I submitted two form 1's at the same time, right at the beginning of the year.

I keep thinking to myself that the last form 1 I submitted, almost exactly a year before those, only took 3 months.  It's frustrating that I'm going on my 5th month with these.
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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2012, 12:07:07 PM »
Quote from: bkoenig on April 28, 2012, 11:29:12 AM
...only took 3 months...

The good old days.**



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Re: ATF == WTF
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2012, 09:23:49 PM »
Quote from: bkoenig on April 28, 2012, 11:29:12 AM
OK, that's scary.  I submitted two form 1's at the same time, right at the beginning of the year.

I keep thinking to myself that the last form 1 I submitted, almost exactly a year before those, only took 3 months.  It's frustrating that I'm going on my 5th month with these.
My last transfer took 205 days door to door. I got the stamp last month.
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