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Offline PhilK

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Looks like no more once-fired military brass!
« on: March 13, 2009, 04:46:27 PM »
http://www.snowflakesinhell.com/2009/03/13/doj-destroying-brass/

And the email I received from a pending order of .223 brass:

Effective immediately, the DoD has required all military brass acquired from military auctions be demilled beyond original use.  However, there is some gray area as to the cutoff date for brass acquired prior to today.  Consequently, I am not shipping any orders (unfilled or current) until my current inventory is deemed eligible or restricted.  Your order (shown below) will be held as pending until either filled or canceled, depending on the effective date of this edict.
Jeff Bartlett
www.gibrass.com


It sure looks like "the squeeze" is on.   >:(

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Re: Looks like no more once-fired military brass!
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2009, 05:59:55 PM »
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Re: Looks like no more once-fired military brass!
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2009, 07:39:06 PM »
Sooooo who do you supose is behind this??? Can we all say Obama. Now what are We the people going to do about it. This seems to me to be another backdoor ban in the works......Stock up folks.
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Ban on Military Brass Sales Reversed
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2009, 02:46:48 PM »
Feds undercut ammo supply But Defense policy reversed after
intervention by 2 Montana senators

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Posted: March 17, 2009
9:00 pm Eastern



By Drew Zahn



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WorldNetDaily


Fired brass shell casings

Responding to two Democratic senators representing outraged private gun owners, the Department of Defense announced last night it has scrapped a new policy that would deplete the supply of ammunition by requiring destruction of fired military cartridge brass.

The policy already had taken a bite out of the nation's stressed ammunition supply, leaving arms dealers scrambling to find ammo for private gun owners.

Mark Cunningham, a legislative affairs representative with the Defense Logistics Agency, explained in an e-mail last night to the office of Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., that the Department of Defense had placed small arms cartridge cases on its list of sensitive munitions items as part of an overall effort to ensure national security is not jeopardized in the sale of any Defense property.

The small arms cases were identified as a senstive item and were held pending review of policy, he said.

"Upon review, the Defense Logistics Agency has determined the cartridge cases could be appropriately placed in a category of government property allowing for their release for sale," Cunningham wrote.

The Defense Department liaison was responding to a letter yesterday to the Defense Logistic Agency's Vice Admiral Alan S. Thompson from Tester and fellow Montana Democrat Sen. Max Baucus. The senators argued "prohibiting the sale of fired military brass would reduce the supply of ammunition ? preventing individual gun owners from fully exercising their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. We urge you to address this situation promptly."

Learn here why it's your right -- and duty -- to be armed.

One of the companies that brought attention to the issue is Georgia Arms, which for the last 15 years has been purchasing fired brass casings from the Department of Defense and private government surplus liquidators. The military collects the discarded casings from fired rounds, then sells them through liquidators to companies like Georgia Arms that remanufacture the casings into ammunition for the law enforcement and civilian gun owner communities.

But earlier this month, Georgia Arms received a canceled order, informed by its supplier that the government now requires fired brass casings be mutilated, in other words, destroyed to a scrap metal state.

The policy change, handed down from the Department of Defense through the Defense Logistics Agency, cut a supply leg out from underneath ammunition manufacturers.

The policy compelled Georgia Arms to cancel all sales of .223 and .308 ammunition, rounds used, respectively, in semi-automatic and deer hunting rifles, until further notice. Sharch Manufacturing, Inc. had announced the same cancellation of its .223 and .308 brass reloading components.

"They just reclassified brass to allow destruction of it, based on what?" Georgia Arms owner Larry Haynie asked WND. "We've been 'going green' for the last dozen years, and brass is one of the most recyclable materials out there. A cartridge case can be used over and over again. And now we're going to destroy it based on what? We don't want the civilian public to have it? It's a government injustice."

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As WND reported, firearm sales have spiked since the election of a perceived anti-gun president, and Americans stockpiling bullets have produced a stressed ammunition market.

The Orlando Sentinel reports months of steady, heavy buying have left gun dealers in Florida facing shortages of ammunition.

"The survivalist in all of us comes out," John Ritz, manager of a Florida shooting range, told the Sentinel. "It's more about protecting what you have."

"People are just stockpiling," said a spokeswoman for Georgia Arms, which has seen bullet sales jump 100 percent since the election. "A gun is just like a car. If you can't get gas, you can't use it."

WND contacted the Defense Logistics Agency, the Department of Defense's largest combat support agency, several times seeking comment or explanation for the policy change but received none.

The National Rifle Association confirmed to WND that the DLA had been instructed to require the scrapping of the brass casings but declined further comment.

Other gun advocates, however, sounded off on the issue, eyeing the change in government policy with suspicion and filling the blogosphere with speculation that the effects of the policy change may be deliberate.

"It is an end-run around Congress. They don't need to try to ban guns ? they don't need to fight a massive battle to attempt gun registration, or limit 'assault' weapon sales," writes firearm instructor and author Gordon Hutchinson on his The Shootist blog. "Nope. All they have to do is limit the amount of ammunition available to the civilian market, and when bullets dry up, guns will be useless."

A writer named Owen at the Boots & Sabers blog suspected the policy change was an effort by an anti-gun administration to raise the cost of ammunition.

"This policy didn't come out of the blue," wrote Owen. "The Commander in Chief is clearly sending a message to gun owners that they should be paying more for ammunition. If he can't do it through regulatory action, he'll do it by forcing ammunition manufacturers to spend more on production."

Hutchinson reports Georgia Arms was manufacturing over 1 million rounds of .223 ammunition every month, but without the ability to purchase expended military ammunition, the company might have been forced to lay off up to half its workforce


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Re: Looks like no more once-fired military brass!
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2009, 05:34:22 PM »
"All they have to do is limit the amount of ammunition available to the civilian market, and when bullets dry up, guns will be useless."

ZeroBama only won with 52.7% of the vote, but it looked like an electoral college landslide because of where the votes were located.  Yet he talks of how there was a BIG call for change from the American people.

Along with the other agenda items of Zero, anti-gun is a BIG one with him.  Check out his record for the measly 2 years that he was Sen in Illinois re anti-guns!

He, Rammy, and gang know they would have a difficult time with an outright anti-2A, so they're going after the ammo!!
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