One officer saw Krause's gun and asked what agency he's affiliated with.
"I'm the same guy I was when you arrested me the last time," Krause said.
The officers asked for his name and called dispatch.
"The reason I'm checking is because felons can't have guns in Wisconsin," West Allis police said.
So.... this cop thinks only cops and robbers can have guns? That is the very definition of "Only Ones"......
"I'm totally opposed to it. I do not think we need more guns on the streets," state Rep. Leon Young said.
Young, a former Milwaukee police officer who represents part of Milwaukee's north side, said he's working on fast track legislation to clear up confusion with Wisconsin's gun law. "If you're walking down the street with a gun in your hand and people can see it or you've got one in your holster here and people can see it, it's going to create a disturbance," Young said.
....Another of those "Only Ones"....... so..... you don't like guns in holsters scaring the sheep? How 'bout you "fast-track" a CCW bill?
"This is America. If we don't stand up for our rights, you know, what are we doing here? What have people fought and died for? Why'd we found this country?" Krause said.
Krause was not arrested, and he said the officers Tuesday night acted professionally, although he disputes whether they should have confronted him.
The officers said in a different situation they would likely still order someone carrying a gun to the ground until they could make sure the situation is safe.
So..... in Wisconsin, you have the Right to Keep, but not Bear, Arms? Or do you have the Right to Bear Arms, just so long as you don't excercise that Right?
Attorney General J.B. Van Hollen said his memo was simply intended to "clarify" the law, and he does not believe more people will start openly carrying guns because of it.
..... apparently, the latter.........
Gov. Jim Doyle hopes it won't change how police officers respond when they see weapons.
"Our advice was people are permitted to openly carry firearms -- that it wasn't in and of itself disorderly conduct. We intentionally didn't go into any factual-based scenarios because they're all different," Van Hollen said.
"I assume that local DAs and local police departments are gonna continue to act as they already have," Doyle said.
Police Response
Milwaukee's police chief said he'll go on telling his officers to take down anyone with a firearm despite Van Hollen's finding that people can carry guns openly if they do it peacefully.
Chief Ed Flynn said officers can't assume people are carrying guns legally in a city that has seen nearly 200 homicides in the past two years.
...... so...... if you actually NEED a gun to defend yourself, because the Only Ones certainly can't protect everybody...... you can't have one.
He said that means officers seeing anybody carrying a gun will put them on the ground, take the gun away and then decide if the person has a right to carry it. >
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Flynn said it's irresponsible to send a message that if someone carries a weapon openly, no one can bother them.
..... irresponsible?!?!?! So..... someone takes on the RESPONSIBILITY of providing for their own security, and now they are IRRESPONSIBLE? ..... of course, you can make that judgement - you already made the judgement that since they are not one of the Only Ones, and they have a gun, they MUST be a Criminal, and treated as such .......
Milwaukee-area police chiefs have a monthly meeting on Wednesday, and they're expected to discuss this issue.
Shorewood Police Chief David Banaszynski is the leader of the state chief's association.
He said many departments are asking questions about how to deal with people openly carrying firearms.
He said it may end up being a community-by-community, case-by-case issue fraught with the potential for danger.
....Danger of what? Your "Only Ones" status taking a hit? Rashhes ofFreedom and Personal Responsibility breaking out all over???....
"Now, with open carry, which is legal, there may be no training. I could hand you my handgun, you could walk down the street carrying it with no training whatsoever.
....... why not? You needed some kind of special training to walk with a gun on your hip? I realize you work for a Gubmint Agency, and as such you assume everyone needs special instruction to do ANYTHING, including how to eat, sleep, and defecate....but seriously......... most everbody I know learned to walk without assistance by the time they were 2 years old, way before they were old enough to legally posess a firearm........
"To me, there is a lot more danger now with people thinking, 'I have the right to carry it so I'm going to carry it, and not have the training,'" Banaszynski said.
.....So if this idea or freedom is so appalling to you, I suggest you work to create a CCW permit process: Then those that wish to provide their own means of security can do so, and they'll get the training you think they need: Everybody's Happy!
