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Offline bkoenig

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Re: When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2013, 02:39:24 PM »
I pray that we don't end up on some server somewhere on a list of potential instigators.


 I want them to know that there are literally millions of people willing to use force to resist their tyranny.
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Re: When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2013, 04:35:05 PM »
... from my cold dead hands
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

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Re: When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2013, 05:17:07 PM »
        It worked for King Leonidas

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Re: When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2013, 07:03:57 PM »
brother in arms to the finish!!!

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Re: When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2013, 07:17:35 PM »
According to Gallup, 47% of Americans own guns.  That equates to about 118,000 people in Lincoln alone.  If just 1% of those people in Lincoln decide to band together and fight for their rights that's still almost 1,200 people.  1,200 determined patriots could make quite a stand, enough that no one in local or Federal government would risk the PR nightmare.
 

Pareto's law of the 20/80,  20% of the gun owners probably own 80% of the guns.  By the same token 20% of the owners will put up 80% of the resistance if needed.  I roughly figure 29 million gun owners ( my estimate) would balk or put up resistance.

I guessed a populace of 315 million for my crude back of envelope figures

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Re: When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2013, 07:22:16 PM »
 And after reading this forum I would say at least 50% of those guns are at the bottom of some lake or river.    ;D
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Re: When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2013, 08:16:10 PM »
If 50 cops show up to work on Monday, and only 25 survive until Tuesday, how many will come to work on Wednesday?

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Re: When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2013, 08:33:14 PM »
 

Pareto's law of the 20/80,  20% of the gun owners probably own 80% of the guns.  By the same token 20% of the owners will put up 80% of the resistance if needed.  I roughly figure 29 million gun owners ( my estimate) would balk or put up resistance.

I guessed a populace of 315 million for my crude back of envelope figures


Heck, just 1 million would be a disaster for the gun banners.

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Re: When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2013, 08:55:12 PM »
And after reading this forum I would say at least 50% of those guns are at the bottom of some lake or river.    ;D
I was able to save mine from a watery grave....

But I sold them to the guy that used to live 2 houses over.
I forget his name.
I'm sure had it on a piece of paper here somewhere......
 
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Re: When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2013, 09:24:52 PM »
According to Gallup, 47% of Americans own guns.  That equates to about 118,000 people in Lincoln alone.  If just 1% of those people in Lincoln decide to band together and fight for their rights that's still almost 1,200 people.  1,200 determined patriots could make quite a stand, enough that no one in local or Federal government would risk the PR nightmare.

Consider also that most of the men and a large number of women in that group would have had combat training and/or experience in one or more of the wars we've been fighting in since Gulf I, and they would know weapons and tactics.

Someone mentioned guns falling off of boats in the river ....  even now I have no doubt that weapons and ammo sealed in weather proof containers have been concealed at various locations around the region.  And, if push comes to shove, a lot of police and active military would act for the Constitution and not against it.    I think Obama believes  that as well, which is why in a campaign speech in Colorado Springs in July of 2008 he called for a 250,000 "civilian defense force" that would be "just as well equipped and just as well trained as the US military".   You have to ask why that would be necessary?   We already have a National Guard, a professional army, and over 700,000 police  active police officers around  the  country.  I think one comparison comes to mind -- the Chinese Red Guard, a group of Marxists armed to specifically suppress any who disagree with administration policy.   His "civilian defense  force" would be recruited from those with a Socialist view of government.    People read "Mein Kampf" and thought that Hitler wasn't serious.   He was.   Obama has not concealed his disregard for the 2nd Amendment and concealed carry:
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/2008/10/30/obama-audio-i-want-to-ban-concealed-weapons-permits/
and he takes  a politician's  course in discussing gun bans.   He's  for it in Liberal settings  and against it in Conservative settings.   But regardless of what he says, it is what he does that shows he is a gun banner. Biden and Reid  are exactly the same way:




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Re: When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2013, 09:45:27 PM »
Well I took all mine with me when I went hunting in North Carolina this last fall.  My Brother in laws place backs up to a federal forest, which if you know the coastal area's you know how every little wet swampy spot is a "Forest."  Well while I was dragging my dear out with his golf cart I flipped it and all my guns are now at the bottom of a swampy grave in the middle of a Federal Forest in NC.

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Re: When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2013, 09:48:23 PM »
Biden can stick his shotgun in his backside.

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