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Time for a castle law?
« on: May 13, 2009, 12:59:58 PM »
Now that LB430 has passed with a resounding landslide, perhaps it is time to start discussing a "castle law" for Nebraska.

I mentioned this in my congratulatory note to my senator, who is, fortunately, a proponent of 2A issues.

What does everyone think? Is it time?

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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2009, 01:15:54 PM »
I am a huge advocate for a Castle Doctrine law in Nebraska. The "duty to retreat" should apply ONLY to the bad guy intending to do me or my loved ones harm. This includes protection of my property, car jacking etc. I firmly believe it is high time that we Nebraskans make being a criminal a VERY dangerous occupation. My apprecation goes out to the NFOA board of directors for their hard work in keeping us informed and for their testimonies on this and other firearm related bills. I believe it is time for us to get together and celebrate this victory for Nebraska gun owners. I was a little dismayed to see Brenda missing , maybe it was time for a mustache wax. Oh well.

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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2009, 01:38:35 PM »
I couldn't agree more, ranger04,  that "making being a criminal a dangerous occupation" is a priority, and should be the priority of any truly civilized society? our friends in the UK notwithstanding. We've already seen declines in crime as a result of expanded CCW laws. I can't believe that the same phenomenon is not occurring in states that have adopted Castle Doctrines.

Are there any organized efforts to promote a Castle Doctrine in Nebraska?

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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2009, 01:55:31 PM »
Yes,it is time for a castle law here in Nebraska.  My Senator Gwen Howard is anti-gun so far up the bleep that,you cannot call her a rino,just a procriminal supporter like Brenda Council and her cohort the former Senator Ernie Chambers.  rich17z@cox.net

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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2009, 03:16:39 PM »
Here's a site with information about the various states' Castle Laws...

http://www.protectedbythecastlelaw.com/

It lists 27 states with some form of Castle Doctrine. This is clearly a movement that I think NE should join.

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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2009, 03:31:15 PM »
I would fully agree, i would be willing to try and type up some sort of proposal to see if any senators would be willing to get the ball rolling.

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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2009, 03:39:12 PM »
I've already contacted my senator about this. Yet to hear back from him.

Considering the landslide outcome of LB430, I think this is doable. We would also have the momentum of other states on our side. Wouldn't it be great if by the end of the next session NE had a Castle Doctrine that compared favorably to Texas's or Florida's?

It would also provide an excellent opportunity to hold to the fire the feet of those senators who oppose the rights of Nebraskans to be armed or to defend themselves and their families. Make them tell the public why they don't trust their constituents. It's all to the good, I say.

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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2009, 04:56:26 PM »
I'd say that as soon as this session is over would be a great time to start contacting our senators about this, AND a resolution reaffirming Nebraska's rights as spelled out in the 10th amendment.
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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2009, 06:01:16 PM »
I'm 100% in agreement with FarmerRick on both points.  State's rights and individuals' rights, both have been trampled on for far too long.

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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2009, 08:13:08 PM »
Let's keep the focus on this session for now. LB 503 is up next and we need to make sure it gets through.  Right now, with the death penalty debate looming, my guess is that most Senators won't be paying much attention to issues that are not on the agenda this session.

But, I certainly agree that the arguments can be honed for pushing these issues after the session ends and in preparation for 2010
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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2009, 09:05:08 PM »
If everyone has not taken the time to do so, please take the time to thank your Senator (if they were a YES vote) for passing LB 430. After the session is over and the Senator have had a little break, NFOA will need to align priorities to approach Senators with for next session.

I know based on our initial survey early on (formation of NFOA) Castle Doctrine was at the top of the wish list

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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2009, 09:18:29 PM »
LEGISLATIVE BILL 430.
A BILL FOR AN ACT relating to firearms; to amend sections 15-255,
16-227, 17-556, 28-1201, 28-1204.03, and 28-1204.04, Reissue Revised
Statutes of Nebraska, and sections 14-102, 69-2427, 69-2430, 69-2433, and
69-2441, Revised Statutes Cumulative Supplement, 2008; to limit the power
of cities and villages to regulate the ownership, possession, or transportation
of concealed handguns; to change provisions relating to possession of a
firearm at school as defined; to change concealed handgun permit issuance
provisions; to provide a residency exception for members of the United
States Armed Forces with respect to concealed handgun permits; to
authorize security personnel to carry concealed handguns in places of
worship as prescribed; to provide for concealed handgun permit reciprocity;
to harmonize provisions; and to repeal the original sections.
SEVENTY-EIGHTH DAY - MAY 13, 2009 1459
Whereupon the President stated: "All provisions of law relative to procedure
having been complied with, the question is, 'Shall the bill pass?' "
Voting in the affirmative, 45:

Adams    Fischer    Hansen    Louden     Price   Ashford   Flood Harms McCoy Rogert  Avery Friend Heidemann  Mello  Schilz
Carlson    Fulton    Howard    Nantkes     Stuthman   Christensen   Gay   Janssen   Nelson   Sullivan  Coash  Giese  Karpisek Nordquist   Utter  Cornett   Gloor   Langemeier   Pahls   Wallman  Dierks   Haar   Lathrop   Pankonin   White  Dubas Hadley Lautenbaugh   Pirsch   Wightman

Voting in the negative, 3:

Campbell    Cook       McGill

Excused and not voting, 1:

Council
A constitutional majority having voted in the affirmative, the bill was
declared passed and the title agreed to.
SPEAKER SIGNED
While the Legislature was in session and capable of transacting business, the
Speaker signed the following: LBs 545, 545A, 198, 198A, and 430.
 
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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2009, 09:39:47 PM »
Howard voted YES??????????????????????/

Strange

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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2009, 08:47:21 AM »
Howard voted YES??????????????????????/

Strange

It's all politics.  Remember the bill they gutted to add hospitals to the no-carry list?  Wasn't there overwhelming support for that one too?

Howard probably has a pet bill of her own she wants passed and this is just a favor for someone.
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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2009, 12:31:56 PM »
sonuva... Campbell actually calls herself a republican... this means war.

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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2009, 10:55:24 PM »
I'll plan to write and email my state senator in support of the Castle Law in the next session.
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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2009, 09:50:30 PM »
If NFOA decides to push for a castle law next session I'll be all over my senator about it. 

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Castle Doctrine Law for Nebraska?
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2009, 10:45:56 PM »
Rest assured this will be a topic of high discussion. 
Senators who may be supportive will be spoken to.

Here is a good read on the same.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Doctrine
http://tekel.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/castle-doctrine-map-update-for-january-2009/
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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2009, 05:17:21 PM »
I had many new sign-up members express their desire to implement a "Castle Doctrine" at the last gun show in Fremont. Another concern was the high cost of getting a concealed carry permit. When talking to new sign-ups at the last show, the Castle Doctrine was the most popular idea they had, followed closely by the 10th amendment declaration.  These I believe should be our main objective next session.
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Re: Time for a castle law?
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2009, 08:32:19 PM »
LitlRat, I like to look at the cost of a CCW like this... $150 in fees  for 10 years if renewed before it expires at 5 years.

$15 bucks a year is the cheapest of all the gun clubs, associations ,and gun related donations I make every year without a thought. Hell I spend that much for admission to gun shows each year.

Another $125  for the minimum level of training and a certificate for 10 years.

Now I am up to 27.50 a year over 10 years. I could  spend that much for a meal some days

I won't count the cost of firearms and ammo. That would be the same CHP or no
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