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Will NRA Someday Stand For "No Riffles Anymore?"
« on: February 15, 2013, 08:00:25 AM »
I was born in 1956.  My first gun was sold at a corner gas station. 

I joined the NRA in 1983, and upgraded to a life membership in 1991.  I told them to keep the magazine to save the cost of sending me one.

Here in the last month or so, I have joined several lobby groups for gun rights, including here.

Joining groups is a little like preaching at the choir. 

Does the NRA have this turmoil under control, or is the Kenyan and his minions, going to confiscate my gun collection I have taken a lifetime to acquire?

I don't know if I should worry, be afraid, or just what to do?

It is not just a gun issue, it is a people issue.  Young people walking around with ball caps on crooked, pants hanging down around their knees with their underwear hanging out, and good luck finding anyone who speaks English anymore in stores.

Is this still the USA or did something change?

I am getting old, and I am sure glad I had no children to worry about.

Yesterday, Missouri introduced a bill, to confiscate all semi auto guns, rifles, handguns, and large magazines.  Confiscate.  If you do not turn them in, you become a felon.

What can we do?  What should we do?   

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Re: Will NRA Someday Stand For "No Riffles Anymore?"
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2013, 08:12:45 AM »
What are "Riffles"?

With regards to your other concerns take the advice of Walt Garrison, put a "peench" between your cheek and gums and relax.....and that comes from a me a Life Member of the NRA since 1987 and Endowment Member since 2006.....your comments on the way kids dress today just shows how old and crotchety you (and me too :)) are getting.....

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Re: Will NRA Someday Stand For "No Riffles Anymore?"
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2013, 08:45:05 AM »
What if they passed a law and no one came?  (Paraphrasing the old "What if they declared a war and no one came?")

If enough say "NO!", what are they going to do, arrest us all?

I believe it's our duty to resist nonsensical laws. 
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"It is better to avoid than to run; better to run than to de-escalate; better to de-escalate than to fight; better to fight than to die. The very essence of self-defense is a thin list of things that might get you out alive when you are already screwed." – Rory Miller

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Re: Will NRA Someday Stand For "No Riffles Anymore?"
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2013, 09:10:46 AM »
If in days of our youth, beads, headbands, tiedies, elephant pant jeans, groovy,stay tight, painted faces,  and if you could call the words we spoke English, As I see it we grew and now we are the one who see those as you described well then how have we done? Some will say we didn't fair well a socialist/marxism's man holds the office, do we wonder why in this gimme gimme or my feelings will get hurt generation are children have been taught by helicopter parents so as no child is left behind crap!! Then we lived our lives with a mentality of if I am not affected I'll just mind my own business, well look who's in office we/I didn't give a hoot until even though they tax the hell out of me, tell me I can not do that to my property, putting unheard of ability's to track/listen/photograph me with out my consent/ticket me via mail/hire those who will actually work for less than I will/ condemn me because I smoke and limit me where I can forget about enjoying this in a tavern-bar-nightclub/ and then tell me I should learn a foreign language to get by?

Well when is enough, enough? It has come to what I hold very dear to my heart My so called Freedom and pursuit of happiness I find in firearms, that line is being drawn for me and I will not stand for it. Now I must learn what I should do and to whom I must talk to, and band together with those of same desires are we too late? No not Yet!! But how far will I pursuit it will I only go so far to keep my pistols as I am not a fan of the fabulous(yea right) AR with standard 30 rnd mags, and say to myself it will be ok to let them downsize the round count on those mags? So long as they leave my pistols alone. We should have watched and seized the moment then! Or is it too late? Quit gripping is first on my list and then I Will Actually Have To Do The Work Myself and Get Involved With Others Who Were Starting To Fight Before Me And Get My  Own Hands Dirty and Do This Even Though I Just Worked 12 hrs to Put Food On My Table and to Have Heat No one man can do alone but band together and overcome those who are doing their best to fullfill their wants and desires for the way I should live my life (as they think they know better)..... Welcome too Our new life where if we don't get our way most times we just move in a different direction and avoid the confrotation Its time to get-r-boots on and walk the walk...

I'm not ranting or just see and watch and living blindly(WAS) ok and putting up with all and taking it, no more will I idly and just watch time go by, now to get my hands involved and work with my fine countryman and overcome this anarchy of the current world..... and not just with words on this forum, I call/email my rep's and even those who are not my rep's in this state but I contact reps across this country to let them know and encourage them that fighting is worth it, and guess what, You can tell the caliber of man as they respond to you and may tell you exactly where to go.. or but instead find a place where we can work together and combine our strength  sometimes you don't see things the same but, a fine man like Senator Kintner(and the like) who has is putting the next step forward into the so call fire. To stand as a shield moving forward clearing the way that we can follow and if he should fall someone is behind him and will pick him up should he stumble. This is the way the only way we can succeed Together....

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Re: Will NRA Someday Stand For "No Riffles Anymore?"
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2013, 11:12:42 AM »
Well it already was Negotiate Rights Away. There are better organizations IMO. I am forced into NRA membership because of my range membership.

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Re: Will NRA Someday Stand For "No Riffles Anymore?"
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2013, 12:09:31 PM »
I was born in 1956.  My first gun was sold at a corner gas station. 

I joined the NRA in 1983, and upgraded to a life membership in 1991.  I told them to keep the magazine to save the cost of sending me one.

Here in the last month or so, I have joined several lobby groups for gun rights, including here.

Joining groups is a little like preaching at the choir. 

Does the NRA have this turmoil under control, or is the Kenyan and his minions, going to confiscate my gun collection I have taken a lifetime to acquire?

I don't know if I should worry, be afraid, or just what to do?

It is not just a gun issue, it is a people issue.  Young people walking around with ball caps on crooked, pants hanging down around their knees with their underwear hanging out, and good luck finding anyone who speaks English anymore in stores.

Is this still the USA or did something change?

I am getting old, and I am sure glad I had no children to worry about.

Yesterday, Missouri introduced a bill, to confiscate all semi auto guns, rifles, handguns, and large magazines.  Confiscate.  If you do not turn them in, you become a felon.

What can we do?  What should we do?   
I'm really sorry that you never had kids. They would most certainly share your values, and be an incredible asset to our cause.

Also, rest assured that those saggy pants wearing thugs only make up a fraction of our population. Half of the people in this country wholeheartedly agree with you.

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Re: Will NRA Someday Stand For "No Riffles Anymore?"
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2013, 03:55:42 PM »
What if they passed a law and no one came?  (Paraphrasing the old "What if they declared a war and no one came?")

If enough so "NO!", what are they going to do, arrest us all?

I believe it's our duty to resist nonsensical laws.

I have never have agreed with a statement as much as I agree with this one! They will be taking my guns from my cold dead fingers!

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Re: Will NRA Someday Stand For "No Riffles Anymore?"
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2013, 10:55:22 PM »
I've always been skeptical of the NRA's policy of paying into these politicians "campaign funds".  It reminds me of a joke my uncle used to tell.

A man seeing a beautiful woman sitting at a bar approaches and asks if she would spend the night with him for a million dollars. She gives a big grin and says "you got the million dollars?" He says no but would she consider 10 minutes in the back of his car for 20 dollars? She takes on an indignant air and says "What kind of girl do you take me for?"  He replies "We've already established that, we're just haggling over the price now." ;D

Seems like these campaign contributions are just setting the price for a competing bid to counter the views of the NRA.

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Re: Will NRA Someday Stand For "No Riffles Anymore?"
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2013, 11:52:35 PM »
One story is the NRA came into being to teach shooting skills for gov troops and was an extension of the gov.  It was not for many years till it became at odd with the gov over politics.

If this is true, and i do not know for sure it is, can the NRA be trusted 100% to always side with gun owners ? 

That is why i support several national gun lobby groups.  These eggs are too valueable to be in one basket.


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Re: Will NRA Someday Stand For "No Riffles Anymore?"
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2013, 09:51:13 AM »
We can not depend on our government.
We can not depend on the NRA.
We can ot depend on someone else to provide for our interests.

This is liberal thinking that someone else is watching our back or that we are somehow represented (and don't get me wrong, there is some representation in lobbies, but nothing like individual contact).

Sending money to a lobby group has history of compromise that nobody supporting the group wanted. That means you need to take direct effort.

Your power is conversation and your vote. Talk to everyone you know...don't hammer and bore them. Let them know that gun control is the flavor of the day and after it is done, something else is going to be taken away or taxed out of their pocket. Call and write every politician you can (your's or not...you can stick in a zip code from their district to access their email), let them know that their vote on anything gun control dictates not only their future but their party control. Let them know you are pouring money into lobbies. Let them know that you do not support any gun control measures.

It is not always about the money...if you have time to post in forums, you have time to put out a letter, email, or call every day. What, they are counting how many times you write or call....or how many letters/email/calls they get asking for a NO vote on anything gun control. There has to be the appearance that individuals and their families and friends are significantly against any kind of firearm control that their future support for anything is hinged on this one issue.

Keep in mind that the government is interested in simply getting money from every bill they can pass. They don't really care about gun control, but leveraging "military style assault" weapons has a decent chance of passing a bill on anti-gun enthusiasm, apathy, lack of a show of hands and compromise to keep what little is left. What ever bill gets passed will be chock full of money to all sorts of things with everyone happy to have it done. So what if some legal rights are taken away? (sarcasm in case you didn't get it).

Like many others I ask for your help.

I am off to write my daily letters to federal and state officials and toss some out to a few other idiots that I am on to their game, have a long memory and will take efforts to ruin any other efforts they may take for messing with my interests. I am only one, but should millions do the same, consider the effect...done every day.

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Re: Will NRA Someday Stand For "No Riffles Anymore?"
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2013, 10:20:54 AM »
When I send different Rep's email I just use my local zip, low and behold I get put on there email list I just think they want to hear across america.

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Re: Will NRA Someday Stand For "No Riffles Anymore?"
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2013, 01:22:07 PM »
I think it was Fortenberry's site that stopped you at the zip code. Since districts changed I was no longer in his district. I was on his mailing list before things changed and was getting mail...just not allowed to use that site venue. Used a differnt district zip to get through. Didn't figure they were checking anyway, so more emails to the cause.