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Offline bigdog

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Hunting your own land
« on: July 23, 2013, 11:45:29 PM »
Here is one for someone to answer. Or at least give me an idea where to find the law.

Does a Nebraska land owner have to buy a deer hunting license if they hunt their own land only? I know the game and parks says you do.

I had a USDA gentlemen tell my son-in-law he does not need a deer license to hunt his own land.

Is this just a Game and Parks thing to get more money?
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Re: Hunting your own land
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2013, 04:30:14 AM »
Will the USDA gentleman pay your fines when Game and Parks nabs you?  Yes, regardless of what that yahoo said, you need a permit, it fully outlines the requirements on the NE Fish and Game website.  A hunting license is not required to hunt any big game in Nebraska, whether on your own land, public land, or private land, BUT a Big Game Permit IS required big game.  http://outdoornebraska.ne.gov/hunting/guides/biggame/pdfs/biggame.pdf

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Re: Hunting your own land
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2013, 10:44:10 AM »
IIRC, wild game in the state of Nebraska belongs to the people of the state of Nebraska, and it does not matter whose land it's on- the Game and Parks still gets to manage the resource for the people.  The landowner still owns the land, and controls access, but the wild game on it is not his to do with as he pleases.  It belongs to all of us.

To hunt big game on their own land only, a land owner needs to buy a landowner big game permit, and describe the land to be hunted on the application (by section and township).
The Right to Keep and BEAR Arms is enshrined explicitly in both our State and Federal Constitutions, yet most of us are afraid to actually excercise that Right, for very good reason: there is a good chance of being arrested........ and  THAT is a damned shame.  III.

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Re: Hunting your own land
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2013, 11:23:41 AM »
IIRC, wild game in the state of Nebraska belongs to the people of the state of Nebraska,

Kind of reminds you of how kings act, no?

"No sir, even though you own that land, that deer is not your deer. No sir! That is the king's deer! You had better not be poaching the king's deer, or big fellas with weapons will come and find you and make you sorry!"

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and it does not matter whose land it's on- the Game and Parks still gets to manage the resource for the people.  The landowner still owns the land, and controls access, but the wild game on it is not his to do with as he pleases.  It belongs to all of us.

Tragedies of the commons are tragic.

Communal ownership of valuable resources leads to those resources being wastefully mismanaged approximately 100% of the time.

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Re: Hunting your own land
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2013, 11:46:00 AM »
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Communal ownership of valuable resources leads to those resources being wastefully mismanaged approximately 100% of the time.

Untrue.

There are more deer in Nebraska now than ever.  Same with wild turkey.

While there are not as many pheasants now as there were a few decades ago, there are many more than there were 150 years ago, when there were NONE: they were introduced from China by a private individual in Oregon in the 1880's and distributed around the midwest by various state Game depts. after the turn of the century.

Before management by Federal and State Game agencies, wild game was managed by nobody, and nearly everything was hunted to near extinction.

Without regulation, we'd have that again.
The Right to Keep and BEAR Arms is enshrined explicitly in both our State and Federal Constitutions, yet most of us are afraid to actually excercise that Right, for very good reason: there is a good chance of being arrested........ and  THAT is a damned shame.  III.

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Re: Hunting your own land
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2013, 06:42:28 PM »
You also must have a minimum of 80 acres to get a landowner permit

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Re: Hunting your own land
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2013, 12:09:33 AM »
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Kind of reminds you of how kings act, no?

Not at all.

Kings get to say whatever they want.

WE have a say in mangement of OUR wildlife.

Meetings are held around the state to take in inputregarding hunting regulations from the public EVERY year.  You want something changed?  Show up.  Say Something.  This is one of the very best things the NFOA could do......
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Re: Hunting your own land
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2013, 10:03:49 PM »
Communal ownership of valuable resources leads to those resources being wastefully mismanaged approximately 100% of the time.

I don't think that is the case. Game and Parks has done a pretty good job managing the resources effectively. If landowners didn't have to follow the rules waste and mismanagement could be disastrous.

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Re: Hunting your own land
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2013, 08:11:41 AM »
I don't think that is the case. Game and Parks has done a pretty good job managing the resources effectively. If landowners didn't have to follow the rules waste and mismanagement could be disastrous.


That's a pretty bold accusation.   :o 

Do you have stats to back this up?
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Re: Hunting your own land
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2013, 09:07:16 AM »
Untrue.

There are more deer in Nebraska now than ever.  Same with wild turkey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc

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While there are not as many pheasants now as there were a few decades ago, there are many more than there were 150 years ago, when there were NONE: they were introduced from China by a private individual in Oregon in the 1880's and distributed around the midwest by various state Game depts. after the turn of the century.

Before management by Federal and State Game agencies, wild game was managed by nobody, and nearly everything was hunted to near extinction.

Without regulation, we'd have that again.

Yes, but this was a tragedy of the commons, not a market result. (And actually, much of the hunting was _directly_subsidized_ by various government entities.)
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Re: Hunting your own land
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2013, 09:09:54 AM »
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Re: Hunting your own land
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2013, 09:12:30 AM »
I don't think that is the case. Game and Parks has done a pretty good job managing the resources effectively. If landowners didn't have to follow the rules waste and mismanagement could be disastrous.

Funny thing: Game and Parks doesn't believe this. The reason that hunting pigs is illegal in this state is because the Commission recognizes that people who hunt things have an incentive to start managing populations so that they can hunt more later. G&P wants feral pigs totally eradicated when they appear from time to time, and allowing hunting runs counter to this goal.

Hunters are among the greatest conservationists, and they are conservationists for the best reason—rational self-interest—not out of some busybody impulse.