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Handguns, Rifles & Shotguns => Rifles => Topic started by: Mike M. on November 30, 2009, 07:16:06 PM
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Ok Farmer Rick thought I should post this but lets see what everybody else has too.
M-44
(http://i360.photobucket.com/albums/oo49/mtncrash1/band026.jpg)
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Nice, crash...
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That is just too purty to be a real Mosin........
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1942 VKT M39
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg215/bkoenig1975/m39.jpg)
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Very nice M44 & M39
Be careful Mosinitis is a very afflicting decease. ;D I will try to post pics later but I will list what I have.
1930 91/30 Hex Tula
1932 91/30 Hex Tula
1936 91/30 Hex Tula
1936 91/30 Hex Tula Finn Capture Battle field condition
1938 91/30 Rd Tula
1938 91/30 Rd Tula
1923 91/30 Hex Izhesh Ex-Dragoon
1930 91/30 Hex Izhesh
1954 M44 Romanian
1934 91/59 Hex Izhesh
1943 91/59 Rd Izhesh Hungarian Stock
Scrubbed Date 91/59 Rd Izhesh Finnish Stock
1941 M39 Finnish VKT Unissued
1915 1895 Nagant Revolver MO/53 Marked
It starts with one and then this is what happens. ;D There is just something about a high powered rifle for 100 bucks!
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Mosin looks like you got bit harder than me.
M44
91/30
91/59
Type53
M1895
Afixer thank you.Had alot of fun doing that one.
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Top is what I think is an M38 Finn Civil Gaurd rework. Bottom 1943 Izzy 90/30. Both are good shooters.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/GuzziRider/LatestCoolpixDownload134.jpg)
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You don't see many Finn M38's. That's a keeper.
I have a 43 Izzy also, but it's just so-so on accuracy. I'm thinking of using my M39 for the service rifle matches at the Ikes this spring, since they're going to allow rifles other than the standard CMP legal ones. Until I talk SWMBO into letting me build a AR, that is :D
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That is just too purty to be a real Mosin........
Your right jim I think them fella ought to let me take to the field and put some character on them their rifles
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My lil Russian Girlfriend, Miss Thirty Eight before and after the makeover today. Ain't she purdy?
(http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy144/loveroffords/Gun%20range/IMG_0197.jpg)
(http://i786.photobucket.com/albums/yy144/loveroffords/Gun%20range/IMG_01962.jpg)
(hey looky I learned me some photosharin')
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A couple Mosins
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Hi guys
I'm kinda new to this forum, but I thought I'd jump in and put up a few pics of the M44 I picked up last week.
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l22/cornhusker_2006/IMG_0389.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l22/cornhusker_2006/IMG_0397.jpg)
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l22/cornhusker_2006/IMG_0394.jpg)
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Ive got a few, just no pics on this computer at the moment. Weve got three in total, all M91s.
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We have this M44, a 91/30 Tula and a 91/59
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Saw a couple of guys with one of those at the Bullet Hole yesterday. Looked like fun, but for the life of me I could not figure out the caliber. Can someone clue me in on that?
Ron
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7.62x54r
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Also known as .30 Ruski. ;D
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After I qualified for Rifleman at the Lincoln Appleseed I pulled out my M39 and shot a round with it just for fun. It actually did pretty good, other than the slow reloads. I only got half my rounds off in the rapid fire stages.
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7.62x54r
It is a very old, rimmed cartridge that is fairly similar to .308/ .30-06 in it's ballistics.
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I think everybody should own at least one of these rifles.
Just the history alone is worth the price, and you'd be hard pressed to find another rifle for that money that is the equal of these.
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I am still seriously considering a M1903 or M1903A3 from the CMP program. They are currently out of them and dont expect any more before 2011, but I have time to wait. The prices last time they had them were great, and some were is really good shape.
Ron
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7.62x54R And they are a blast and best of all cheap.
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Time to bump this thread... ;D
1918 Remington Model 1891 Mosin. Got it last weekend at the Lincoln Gun Show for less than most refurbished hex receiver 91/30's go for these days. Also included the bayonet with scabbard not pictured. The finish is in darn good shape for being 95 years old. The bore has strong rifling, but is kinda dark. Bolt and floorplate numbers match the receiver.
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q138/FarmerRick/nfoa/2013-09-28183247_zps2bff81f2.jpg)
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q138/FarmerRick/nfoa/2013-09-28183318_zps12abd83a.jpg)
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now I know why you offered me $200 for my AR...thats all you had left ;D
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you got it at the Lincoln GS? dang....
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Sweet one FarmerRick!
Is it in the original stock? Have an import mark? Any Finn stamps on it?
So many questions!! :D
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Sweet one FarmerRick!
Is it in the original stock? Have an import mark? Any Finn stamps on it?
So many questions!! :D
I'm pretty sure it's not ALL original, but I didn't pay ALL original price for it either... ;)
It has the Izhevsk arrow in triangle mark on the forward edge of the magazine screw hole, and the stock has a capitol A stamped just forward of that. Can't find any other markings on the stock, it seems to have been refinished at some time(they did a nice job on it though) and it also has an arsenal repair just rearward of the receiver. I'll take it apart this weekend to see what is under all that nice wood.
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Congrats! It looks like a great find.
There's been a few Mosins share their story with me. ;)
I'm still looking for my first Remington though.
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Just a little update...I posted a while back about how my 91/30 wasn't all that accurate. I put a pressure point under the barrel using an oiled piece of felt under the barrel, right at the end of the forend, and it made a huge difference. It shoots pretty much as good as my Finn now, although you still have the horrible Russian trigger to contend with.
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although you still have the horrible Russian trigger to contend with.
Hey if it was good enough for Comrade Zaytsev, it should be good enough for you... ;D
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7.62x54r
It is a very old, rimmed cartridge that is fairly similar to .308/ .30-06 in it's ballistics
Also known as .30 Ruski
..... a.k.a. "Commie-aught-six" :D
Ballistics are very similar to the .30 Gubmint .....
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1918 Remington Model 1891 Mosin.
I was wondering if anyone else had a U.S. made Mosin running around. I have a Westinghouse that sits in the back of my safe. I think it is stamped 1914 or 1915. The finish has held up well over the years.
The last time I fired it I was pretty surprised. With the cheap surplus ammo I was able to bounce a tin coffee can around and 200 yards. Granted the sight radius is extremely long on that thing too.
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I ended up with a few Mosin action parts in a trade. Any of you guys need any?
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I ended up with a few Mosin action parts in a trade. Any of you guys need any?
such as.... ?
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I was wondering if anyone else had a U.S. made Mosin running around. I have a Westinghouse that sits in the back of my safe. I think it is stamped 1914 or 1915. The finish has held up well over the years.
The last time I fired it I was pretty surprised. With the cheap surplus ammo I was able to bounce a tin coffee can around and 200 yards. Granted the sight radius is extremely long on that thing too.
I bet it would do even better with quality ammo. In my experience most combloc surplus ammo is pretty inaccurate. With handloads I'm pretty sure I could approach 1 MOA with my M39 if I had a scope on it. My eyes are just not good enough to shoot that well with tangent sights anymore.
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I ended up with a few Mosin action parts in a trade. Any of you guys need any?
Yeah....whatcha got?
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I was wondering if anyone else had a U.S. made Mosin running around. I have a Westinghouse that sits in the back of my safe. I think it is stamped 1914 or 1915. The finish has held up well over the years.
The last time I fired it I was pretty surprised. With the cheap surplus ammo I was able to bounce a tin coffee can around and 200 yards. Granted the sight radius is extremely long on that thing too.
If I'm not mistaken all of the Westinghouse Mosins are stamped 1915. There's a difference in if the 'Westinghouse' stamp is in a large arch, small arch, or straight line. I knew of a collector that was trying to match serial number ranges to the shape of the Westinghouse stamp. I'm not sure how that turned out.??
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yet again i passed up an all matching 1932 Tula hex mosin at cabelas. an employee snagged it after i put it down and walked away.
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If I'm not mistaken all of the Westinghouse Mosins are stamped 1915
Now that you mentioned it I remember reading that somewhere. Mine is of the straight line variety.
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such as.... ?
Not sure. Just a bunch of action parts in a zip-lock bag. I have an employee who's interested in them. If he doesn't take them, I'll see if I can come up with more info.
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(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy243/partial_photos/2014-01-09_152219_zps04b16c7f.jpeg)
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Not sure. Just a bunch of action parts in a zip-lock bag. I have an employee who's interested in them. If he doesn't take them, I'll see if I can come up with more info.
Employee decided he didn't want the parts. I'll put up a for sale thread, but I have no idea what they're worth.
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OK, here is mine.
1941 ishvesk (sp?) 91/30
Dropped it in an ATI stock, added a Cabelas 3-9 x 40 scope with a UTG mount and riser. Slipped a little foam under the elastic butt stock shell holder to raise the cheek weld up.
Not exactly a tack driver (unless it's a very large tack). About Minute of Man at 100 yards with surplus ammo.
Can have it back to original in about 30 minutes.
Thinking about cutting the barrel down. But not sure if it would help the accuracy or not.
(http://solidred.net/images/mosin_full_small.jpg)
(http://solidred.net/images/nosin_close_small.jpg)
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Thinking about cutting the barrel down. But not sure if it would help the accuracy or not.
I've read that the crown of the barrel can affect accuracy and that redoing it fixes the problem.
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Cutting down the barrel MIGHT help the accuracy if the crown is nicked, or the rifling is worn towards the end. That's assuming it's done correctly, with the cut not at an angle and with the crown cut cleanly. Frankly, for a $120 rifle you're going to pay more than the gun is worth to have it done correctly.
I would try some commercial ammo first and see if it shoots better. I have never had good luck with commie surplus stuff. Prvi Partisan, S&B, or handloads will pretty much always shoot better.
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Those scope mounts haven't got the best track record, just not solid enough. Not many scope options for Mosin's though.
As far as cutting off and recrowning your barrel, it isn't rocket science if you're handy with tools. Do some googling, lot's of instructional videos on how to crown a barrel simply and effectively.
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It's actually possible to crown a barrel with a brass screw, some lapping compound, and a drill. It won't be a match grade job but for a Mosin it's probably good enough. I've done it before on surplus rifles and it works fine. I would try that before cutting the barrel off. Once you do that there's no going back.
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Cutting down the barrel MIGHT help the accuracy if the crown is nicked, or the rifling is worn towards the end. That's assuming it's done correctly, with the cut not at an angle and with the crown cut cleanly. Frankly, for a $120 rifle you're going to pay more than the gun is worth to have it done correctly.
I would try some commercial ammo first and see if it shoots better. I have never had good luck with commie surplus stuff. Prvi Partisan, S&B, or handloads will pretty much always shoot better.
Thanks. Yes. If I am out to get better accuracy I will try some actual commercial loads. The surplus stuff is pretty unreliable for consistency.
I can actually cut and crown myself. So no issue with cost. I just hate to cut up a good firearm for no reason.
The rifling is in good shape and the muzzle has no nicks so the only thing I would gain if anything is better harmonics.
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Those scope mounts haven't got the best track record, just not solid enough. Not many scope options for Mosin's though.
Thanks. Best mount I can come up with and keep the bolt. I might put a bent bolt on it and a real mount down the road. But thinking I would just as soon put that money into a new Savage or something rather than putting more money into this. :)
I just like the looks and feel of older rifles but I have a need for the optics. :(
Would love to have an original Garand though. !!
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to recrown a barrel, you only have to remove a few thousands off it, You can hardly tell it was done.
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Heres my 1940 Tula round all matching numbers except tools/bayo. Going out to Hamburg Bend in about an hour on a date with her and her girlfriend AK-74
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m233/Brandon_Gomolski/10001315_232949570229694_6588036577981680771_n_zps96554f9f.jpg)
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my mosins...
top - 1915 New England Westinghouse M91 (bought from a forum member). it has mostly NEW parts, but some Izzy and Tula mixed in. no date under the tang, which is correct. Matching barrel and bolt, Finnish marked, older CAI import marking on barrel. I need to find a bayo and sling, etc. according to the serial number, i am guessing that this gun was made in late 1916, its only a guess.
Mid - 1926 Tula ex-dragoon (bought from a forum member). all matching, except no bayo. import marking on receiver by PWN Arms, even though this is a 1926, the tang and wood are marked 1925 Tula... interesting that they would be marked 1925, when the barrel is marked 1926. it has a "newer" rear sight which is Izzy and the bolt has mostly Tula, but some Izzy mixed in.
Bot - 1943 Izzy M91/30, round receiver and rough finishing. 1943 marked under tang. all matching and has all parts, etc. but interestingly has X5559 on the underside of the barrel along with lots of half markings that are barely legible.
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g50/rchaisch/b188272f-beb7-4813-bdd0-e4b3731bc9e1_zps51b6d9f1.jpg)
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