He said shootings like those at Sandy Hook Elementary in 2012 and at Virginia Tech in 2007 have left many people fearful of firearms. If the sight of a gun causes hysterics, and someone is willing to testify in court, police could issue a ticket, although officers might try to first resolve the situation by talking with the gun owner.
A kitchen swinging door, stays in the center, because there is equal pressure on both sides.
While I support the rights of people to enjoy their 2nd amendment, I fear, over pushing that right, in the face of others, and the face of government, could lead to my 2nd amendment rights being lowered, or removed.
I believe one of our own members was also charged last year and it was discussed on this forum.
Good thing our Forefathers didn't think that way.
My support of the Second Amendment, goes farter than anyone I know. I give liberally to the NRA, have for years. I give to GOA, and about a half dozen other groups. I give free guns safety classes.
There is a difference between blowing your nose, because it needs blowing, and doing so in a discrete manor, and blowing your nose, in a disorderly manor, and everyone wonders where all the snot is going, as it flies around the room.
http://journalstar.com/news/local/group-wears-guns-to-promote-open-carry/article_d2dd3e42-107c-5af9-b9f0-fae2d0f79587.html (http://journalstar.com/news/local/group-wears-guns-to-promote-open-carry/article_d2dd3e42-107c-5af9-b9f0-fae2d0f79587.html)'
Words escape me.... particularly regarding Chief Peschong .....
There is a difference between blowing your nose, because it needs blowing, and doing so in a discrete manor, and blowing your nose, in a disorderly manor, and everyone wonders where all the snot is going, as it flies around the room.
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If one wants to walk like a Asian priest on rice paper, no one will ever know.
Even some of the Urban Liberal Castrati commenting at the bottom of the LJS page wondered, validly, how smart it is to have your sidearm exposed while holding a baby.
My support of the Second Amendment, goes farter than anyone I know. I give liberally to the NRA, have for years. I give to GOA, and about a half dozen other groups. I give free guns safety classes.
There is a difference between blowing your nose, because it needs blowing, and doing so in a discrete manor, and blowing your nose, in a disorderly manor, and everyone wonders where all the snot is going, as it flies around the room.
I believe one of our own members was also charged last year and it was discussed on this forum.
Another case in point, Nebraska Furniture Mart. They opened up their gun policy to be less restrictive, because as a company, they had no problems with gun owners over a long period of time.
In other words---perhaps you should support the people who open carry legally in a fashion that also supports the 2nd amendment.
I'm still not convinced that it's wise to walk around announcing to the world, HEY, WORLD... HERE'S MY PLAN B! AIN'T I COOL!?!
Maybe it really is all about fashion. As long as your firearm doesn't clash with your outfit, it's OK to carry openly. Otherwise, conceal that hog leg so I don't have to see your fashion faux pas.
Sidearms should be tasteful, and accessorize well? :)
Sidearms should be tasteful, and accessorize well? :)
And this is where each previous thread about this topic has gone.
I am not anti open carry, I am anti shake the tree, to see how many apples fall off.
If I ask someone to bring me a 3/4" combination wrench, and they bring me a pair of vice grips, I might still be able to get the job done, but the nut now looks like "Not exactly the right tool was used for the job" scratches on it.
The next time one of you open carry folks goes shopping, stop by my place of business, and take me with you. You notice how folks interact with me, while shopping, and I will do the same for you. You will notice no one notices me, pays me no attention. I go about my way, with zero distraction to others. I speak softly, not aggressive, not any mannerism to attract attention to myself. No Mohawk haircut, no pink hair, no tee shirt to read. I blend in, in a store as if I am not there.
Could I do that with a Glock 10mm on my hip?
I gave more money to NRA last year, than some people make in a year. I not only support the 2nd amendment, I do it with my wallet. Not just lip service. However, what good does it do, to support the NRA, to the degree I do, if someone has a bucket truck rammed into the tree, to see how many apples fall out?
Life is a balance. When it is out of balance, that is when things fail.
Part of the integral balance of the 2nd amendment, is the fact, the 2nd amendment folks keep their composure.
I am old enough to remember every pick up truck having a shotgun in the window, and a bolt action rifle, and the door was unlocked, and the keys were in the ignition.
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A look behind the scenes would show that NFM’s “sudden” change on carry policy coincides with their desire to open a store in Texas. Their advisors down South explained that sauntering into Texas as a “No Guns” business would be a death knell for a yet to be built store.
You will notice no one notices me, pays me no attention. I go about my way, with zero distraction to others. I speak softly, not aggressive, not any mannerism to attract attention to myself. No Mohawk haircut, no pink hair, no tee shirt to read. I blend in, in a store as if I am not there.And for any of you that have met Gary- that a pretty large feat. ;)
The next time one of you open carry folks goes shopping, stop by my place of business, and take me with you. You notice how folks interact with me, while shopping, and I will do the same for you. You will notice no one notices me, pays me no attention. I go about my way, with zero distraction to others. I speak softly, not aggressive, not any mannerism to attract attention to myself. No Mohawk haircut, no pink hair, no tee shirt to read. I blend in, in a store as if I am not there.
Could I do that with a Glock 10mm on my hip?
I gave more money to NRA last year, than some people make in a year. I not only support the 2nd amendment, I do it with my wallet. Not just lip service.
This was the thread about DTP
http://nebraskafirearms.org/forum/index.php?topic=10341.0 (http://nebraskafirearms.org/forum/index.php?topic=10341.0)
I'm rather curious what the issue with this would be. Or are they thinking somehow that exposed firearm will give off harmful rays and hurt the child, which wouldn't happen if it were concealed?
What's the issue?
I won't pretend to know exactly what's in the mind of the Urban Liberal Castrati who spend their days commenting on LJS articles, and I may be overestimating their thought processes;
however, I assumed, from some of the comments, that they assumed it was an unsound defensive practice. The logic might be that if a guy is going into a small crowded cafe...
...holding a baby (in a way that doesn't allow him to even see someone approaching him from his strong / carry side),
...and he thinks that there's a risk that someone else might come into that cafe and do something psychopathic that requires lethal force, then mightn't it be advantageous to have the gun be accessible but discreetly hidden?
(Again, I might be overthinking what's in the mind of LJS types.)
Even some of the Urban Liberal Castrati commenting at the bottom of the LJS page wondered, validly, how smart it is to have your sidearm exposed while holding a baby.
While I support the rights of people to enjoy their 2nd amendment, I fear, over pushing that right, in the face of others, and the face of government, could lead to my 2nd amendment rights being lowered, or removed.
Lincoln Said It And It Applies Now As Then
BY JOHN PECK
"The government, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." Abraham Lincoln
We have seen the latter part of the above quotation exercised here in McMinn County. We now have the opportunity to see the first part of it carried out.
What Lincoln meant was just this: The government of any group of people is in the hands of the people and they must carry on an active part in maintaining their government unless they want to abide by the rule of a few unscrupulous persons who find ways and means of getting the reins of power in governmental offices. If the people as a whole do not maintain a vigilant watch over matters of government a few people, grasping for power and domination find it easy to undermine all the principles of democracy.
It has been said that the situation now prevailing in McMinn County puts its citizens in the best position of any county in the state and possibly in the nation as to the control and manipulation of its government.
We are in just that position if the people as a whole will attend the county-wide mass meetings tomorrow night and participate in the election of the representatives of their respective communities who will serve on the Board of Directors of the Good government League of McMinn County.
The people who are elected must have the knowledge that they have the backing of all the people in their community when they go to the various meetings of the Board of Directors and vote on the matters of government that come before that body.
The choice is in your hands; 1. Take an active part in your government, as is your duty and privilege as a citizen, or 2. The next time you find that your government has fallen into the hands of unscrupulous politicians just say, "It's my own fault, I had a chance to do something about it but slept through it."
Dozens of federal agencies now have Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) teams to further an expanding definition of their missions. It’s not controversial that the Secret Service and the Bureau of Prisons have them. But what about the Department of Agriculture, the Railroad Retirement Board, the Tennessee Valley Authority, the Office of Personnel Management, the Consumer Product Safety Commission, and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service? All of these have their own SWAT units and are part of a worrying trend towards the militarization of federal agencies — not to mention local police forces.
Since 9/11, the feds have issued a plethora of homeland-security grants that encourage local police departments to buy surplus military hardware and form their own SWAT units. By 2005, at least 80 percent of towns with a population between 25,000 and 50,000 people had their own SWAT team. The number of raids conducted by local police SWAT teams has gone from 3,000 a year in the 1980s to over 50,000 a year today.
The militarization of police has always been a rightist iniative and it works against us, especially when we are out of office such as in 2002. We are confused now because Obama is actually far to the right of most of us when it comes to law enforcement and national security policy, despite his campaign rhetoric to the contrary in 2008, and despite what Fox News might say about him.
For example, politicalcompass.org places Obama deep in the rightist authoritarian quadrant among world leaders.
Maybe it really is all about fashion. As long as your firearm doesn't clash with your outfit, it's OK to carry openly. Otherwise, conceal that hog leg so I don't have to see your fashion faux pas.
Life is too short to carry an ugly gun. That's why I have CZ's and not Glocks.
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Life is too short to carry an ugly gun. That's why I have CZ's and not Glocks.
Well, you said they had assumed validly, so that wording made me think you thought there was something valid in what they said.
You know you'd open carry this....(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2905/14145429541_690bd97a59_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nxZ2oe)
cuz i can
There would have to be some associated behavior with the person’s actions that starts alarming or putting people in fear to be issued a disturbing the peace citation.
I'll go elsewhere to eat then. I wasn't all that fond of Chipotle's menu anyway.
Ghost
Qdoba is better. However, add this to the growing list of businesses that don't want anything to do with the debate, but are forced into it because of in-your-face, pro-gun tactics that clearly have the opposite effect.
The Chipotle Boys are real knuckleheads. It's one thing to stroll into the store with a Glock on your belt and quite another to be sportin' an AR.
If I see someone publicly totin' an AR or other long gun, I'm going to Condition Orange baby. I don't know if he, she, they have bad intent or are simply attention whores.
Boneheads.