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General Categories => Carry Issues => Topic started by: y0diggity on November 27, 2011, 09:02:26 PM
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I'm sure it's been asked before but I looked around and didn't locate anything right out of the gate. I wasn't worried though, because I know we all love these kinds of threads; they give us a chance to brag on our gear and talk "shop" about pros and cons of these things.
So what do you carry, what do you carry it in and what do you like / dislike about your current rig?
I carry a Glock 21 in a Blackhawk CQC Serpa holster. I love it, but it's a bit big. I'm looking at picking up a compact 1911.
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I carry a Beretta 92FS in a Comp-Tac kydex IWB.
I'm a big guy, so the size isn't really an issue. My hands fit well around the fat grip. It is very heavy, especially with two spare 15 round mags, but I don't mind that at all. Its DA/SA trigger works well for me.
Spare magazines are super inexpensive, but are built well. I can typically find brand new military surplus on Gunbroker for $10 per mag.
Mine has been very reliable, accurate, and runs whatever ammo I buy or reload.
Cabela's, Sheels, and wherever seem to sell them new pretty regularly for $560.
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Full size Beretta PX4 in 9mm with Federal HST 147gr bullets. The holster is either a DeSantis speed scabbard or more commonly in a KHolster. I like the IWB Kholster better just because I don't have to worry about the bottom of the holster poking out from underneath my cover. Bad part about the IWB holster is that I have to buy my pants/shorts one size too big.
Fly
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I would say 90% of the time I carry a Springfield XD 40 subcompact in a pancake holster made by me, and the other 10% of the time I carry a Springfield EMP 9mm in a Avenger style holster I made. On days I need to tuck the shirt in I carry a Tucker Gunleather "Answer". I own one for each of those guns.
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I used to carry, but I was out in this boat.....
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I can tell you what someone else on the forum carries, cuz it used to be mine...
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I carry a spare tire.
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Ruger P94. Crossbreed IWB.
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I used to carry, but I was out in this boat.....
buh-dum-bahhh
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A fire extingiusher-just in case..........
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I carry a spare tire.
Weight watchers has a special this month, maybe they could help you with that. Haa, just kidding.
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I'm sure it's been asked before but I looked around and didn't locate anything right out of the gate. I wasn't worried though, because I know we all love these kinds of threads; they give us a chance to brag on our gear and talk "shop" about pros and cons of these things.
So what do you carry, what do you carry it in and what do you like / dislike about your current rig?
I carry a Glock 21 in a Blackhawk CQC Serpa holster. I love it, but it's a bit big. I'm looking at picking up a compact 1911.
My primary carry piece is a S&W 638 (.38 special J-frame revolver with a shrouded hammer). If I am in summer clothes I might step down to a Kel-Tec P3AT. If it is cold out, I sometimes step up to a SigPro 2340 or S&W SW99.
Most of my holsters for concealed carry are Don Hume IWB holsters. I also have an ankle rig for the 638 but pretty much the only time I've made use of that was while bar-hopping in New Orleans when I knew I was going to be doing a lot of sitting down and standing up (I know, asking for it...).
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I rotate between a Tweeked Glock 26 or a stock Taurus PT140, carry both in a DeSantis Speed Scabbard or in colder weather I do carry a Tweeked Glock 21sf in a DeSantis holster. Sometimes I have a Taurus 738 in my pocket just for ballance.
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My Glock 30 is either in a Versa Max II or hand carried in a SafePacker.
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I got my new Bianchi Evader in the mail today and so far I really like it. It holds the Glock right up against my side very well and keeps the pointy parts from being too apparent. It also has the trigger guard lock to keep it snugged in there securely and keep me from worrying too much about losing the piece.
Also got a new Bianchi belt. I've been needing a new belt for a while and I figured that while I was ordering a holster, I may as well order the belt too. It definitely needs some break-in though... :(
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I forgot to add that I always wear an Aker B21 reinforced 1.5" gun belt
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1911 in a Sparks VMII. Sparks sharkskin belt when I'm feelin' fancy. Wilderness Instructor's belt for the other times.
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I am also a fan of the XD40sc, and have in the past carried it in an Uncle Mikes IWB, but now am using one of Sparky's pancake holsters and REALLY like it. That XD eats anything I put in it, and is as accurate as the day is long.
Occasionally I also carry my Walther PK380 in the Uncle Mikes, it seems to fit most every gun I have, even my Ruger P90DC .45acp.
Ron
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Ruger LC9. Pocket holster.
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Glock 30sf IWB - Primary
Back up Glock 36
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To be honest it depends on the day and what I'm wearing or what I'm doing or what mood I'm in. My S&W 642 gets carried more than anything because it's so small and light but still has decent stopping power. I run a lot and it's great for that. I don't even notice the weight. It's a handful to shoot though until you get used to it. +P .38spl out of an aluminum framed revolver can be nasty.
When I'm wearing clothes that will conceal better I do prefer an autoloader with higher capacity. As some of you know my wife loves CZ's so sometimes I sneak her 82 or 75 out of the house. I absolutely love the 75. It's heavy but once I got a good holster that wasn't a problem anymore. CZ's have extremely thin profiles because the slide rides inside the frame instead of the other way around like everyone else. It's comforting knowing I have 14+1 on tap and another 14 in my pocket.
In the winter if I'm wearing a coat or long shirt I'll carry my M&P 9L. I bought it as a competition gun and the long barrel makes it hard to conceal, but the extra capacity is nice when I can get away with it.
I've thought about carrying this just for giggles. Mine is 100% reliable and accurate, but like the Steve Earle song says, shoots as fast as lightnin' but loads a mite slow...
(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee412/alemonkey/IMG_0895.jpg)
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I am like bkoenig, depends on the weather and situation. For light clothing days or the need for deep concealablity I use my Taurus PT380. Very small and still has some punch. For colder weather where more clothing is the norm I use the Charter Arms Mag Pug .357 in a Crossbreed IWB.
Now, if I could figure out a way to carry this I would truly fear no evil but alas just have not come up with a good way to pull it off.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y113/GuzziRider/IMGA0024-1.jpg)
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Think trench coat!
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I WANT that Krink.
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I carry a P226 in a paddle holster. I will be switching over shortly to a 5906 as soon as I get used to it. My P226 has been pretty much shot to death.
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<---- That, lately in one of Sparky's OWB (Avenger?) holsters.
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Today? This:
(http://photo.longernamer.net/Other/Random/i-g9MNMQ7/0/L/REL2730-L.jpg)
(spare mag and holster not shown...)
Tomorrow may be different.
/rl
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Nice pen
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Ballpoints and I don't get along....
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In winter, I carry a Charles Daly (FEG) hi-power. It's a great gun. I have one of sparky's holsters, but the gun usually rides in a Galco N3 made for a 1911. It's a great combo and with a stiff belt rides quite nicely.
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I switch between a XD9SC, XDM9 and Glock 19. Love my Galco King Tuk holsters.
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Sig p229 equinox in .40 in a crossbreed holster.
it's a little on the large side is my only complaint.
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American Derringer Model 2 Pen Gun
(http://i916.photobucket.com/albums/ad2/SemperFiGuy1/th_imagesqtbnANd9GcSCdmvShADoFAVvs0qhwEa2lxdTcUjxkzGnUSxEFHW-OLZmCWQGDQ.jpg)
That way, when Perp sez, "Gimme the Money!!!", you say.....
"I'm all out of hard cash right now. Let me write you a check........"
sfg
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Most of the time, for its lightness and concealability, I carry my S&W 340SC. I have a good ankle holster for it (De Santis 044 S1), but I prefer a pocket or my Galco paddle holster if I can wear a long shirt or jacket for cover. It will fit just about anywhere, even a jeans pocket, and printing isn't usually a problem. It's not something I enjoy shooting (quite a kick with .357 Mag 140 gr FTX Hornady Leverevolution ammo), but it has stopping power if not capacity. I figure the most likely situation where I might need it would be at very close range and a single attacker.
I really prefer to carry my Kimber .45 with night sights, but its not as comfortable or concealable. I usually use my Galco B819WC belt holster (for concealed or open carry), but if I expect to have to remove it for some reason, I will use my Galco paddle hoster instead. I don't usually use it, but I have a two-magazine carrier that matches my paddle holster, too. I frequently open carry if I'm taking my dogs for a walk, or just going for a walk on my own. That doesn't go over very well though if I'm going to a place with lots of people around (shopping, etc.).
I generally have my Glock 26 in my truck in the overhead console as well.
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I carry a .50 Desert Eagle in a DeSantis shoulder holster, with a Taurus Judge in an ankle holster for backup.
No, seriously, I do.
[cough, cough]
(Well, maybe not really.)
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Most of the time, for its lightness and concealability, I carry my S&W 340SC. I have a good ankle holster for it (De Santis 044 S1), but I prefer a pocket or my Galco paddle holster if I can wear a long shirt or jacket for cover. It will fit just about anywhere, even a jeans pocket, and printing isn't usually a problem. It's not something I enjoy shooting (quite a kick with .357 Mag 140 gr FTX Hornady Leverevolution ammo), but it has stopping power if not capacity. I figure the most likely situation where I might need it would be at very close range and a single attacker.
Hmmm, sounds like an idea for our next training video. Deploying from a pocket or ankle holster while dealing with a single attacker at very close range. I should also record the guys faces when I bring it up. :'(
- Shawn
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sjwsti:
Are you attempting to make fun of me? If the goal here is to make fun of other people, there is plenty of ammunition. I fully realize an ankle holster is not the best method of carry for self-defense. Still, I have faith in my own ability to recognize a situation and adjust if necessary. I'm not saying that I could draw my gun from an ankle holster when attacked by surprise from a few feet away. I'm saying that I carry that way when I want to carry concealed and appropriate clothing limits my choices. As for carrying in a pocket or paddle holster, do you have a suggestion as to what would be significantly better?
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sjwsti:
Are you attempting to make fun of me? If the goal here is to make fun of other people, there is plenty of ammunition. I fully realize an ankle holster is not the best method of carry for self-defense. Still, I have faith in my own ability to recognize a situation and adjust if necessary. I'm not saying that I could draw my gun from an ankle holster when attacked by surprise from a few feet away. I'm saying that I carry that way when I want to carry concealed and appropriate clothing limits my choices. As for carrying in a pocket or paddle holster, do you have a suggestion as to what would be significantly better?
Not making fun at all, sorry that it sounded that way. If you search around you will see that myself and a small group of like minded gluttons for punishment will occasionally video a training session or two and post it to this forum. We do this in order to pass on the lessons learned from full contact FOF training. Very often we find that something that sounds good on the internet, in a magazine or even taught in a class falls quite short when tested in this manner.
We are always looking to challenge ourselves by doing what is difficult and you mentioned a couple of common carry methods that we haven't tested FOF.
Truth be told, given the right circumstances the type of holster you have or even the gun that you carry makes no difference at all. But since I cant predict the future I prepare for the worst case scenario and choose equipment that will serve me best in any circumstance and train like my life will depend on it.
You agree that drawing from an ankle holster will only be possible under the right circumstances. A physical attack at close range isn't one of them I'm betting. But talk is cheap, we will actually do it and then video it for your amusement and you can take from it what you want. As far as pocket carry, have you attempted to get a gun out of your pocket while actually being punched, grabbed and thrown to the ground? I haven't, but I'm going to. You will get to see how it turns out, good or bad.
- Shawn
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Carrying any gun, anywhere on you, is better than carrying nothing at all. If an ankle holster is what you are comfortable with(when the occasion calls for it), go for it!
I usually have an LCP in my pocket, but am trying to find a good IWB holster for the CZ 2075 RAMI I picked up a while back. The CZ is so small, I can carry it in the pocket of some of my jeans nearly as easily as the LCP, but need to find a thin pocket holster before I do that.
BTW: Welcome back, A&H... the discussions around here were getting a little stale without your unique perspective and no-b.s. posts. Healthy(and respectful) debate is what this forum is all about. 8)
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Shawn and Rick:
Thanks.
I watched some videos recently showing the difficulty of drawing and firing a weapon while under attack from close range. To me it only reinforced the idea that awareness of your surroundings, avoiding risky situations, and having a plan are probably more important than what gun you carry, how you carry it, or how much training you have. I'm sure training helps considerably, but from what I saw, even trained individuals didn't fare very well when it came to a sudden attack by a man with a knife or other deadly weapon from close range (21 feet or less). Most of the subjects eventually got their gun out and fired (dummy rounds of course), but had their attackers' weapons been real, they most likely would have died from the wounds inflicted upon them, and likely would never have gotten off a shot. This was in a situation where they knew what was coming and were ready for it, and they had their weapons where they were easily accessible.
By the way, I have a leather jacket I wear quite a bit. It has a pocket that was meant for a cell phone, but it works very well with my S&W340. Outside of already having the gun in my hand, I don't think any kind of holster would make drawing it any faster than I can get it from this pocket. It wouldn't have the retention of a good holster, but I seldom run, jump, or do summersaults any more, and I don't expect that to be a problem. :)
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Shawn -
Your videos are amazingly informative and disturbing at the same time. I think they also reinforce the point that A&H made above that being aware of your situation and surroundings will most likely be a better strategy than trying to defend yourself from any sort of close-range attack if at all possible. It doesn't look to me like any of the participants in the videos fare very well against their assailant.
Of course, in an ideal world, we'd never have to worry about an attacker getting close to us. However in the real world, it'sa definite possibility and it's good to be prepared for what could very likely happen in that event. It's unfortunate that we even need a place to discuss the need to carry a firearm for personal protection. :(
Anyway. Done rambling now. Discussion in this thread has been awesome and to respond to my own original question, my Glock 21 has become much more comfortable now that I'm used to it. I have 2 holsters I use based on what I'm going to wear that day, etc. I've also had to start wearing suspenders now. :( Damn I feel old and pear-shaped.