North Platte city parks and Ord. 93.05

[HuskerXDM]

I think the question here boils down to this.

Are city streets and sidewalks fundamentally different from a park, in that a political subdivision could ban valid CHP holders from carrying in one place, while at the same time being prevented from doing so in the other.

I think that these examples are fundamentally the same, and therefore  a city can not ban legal concealed carry in a park any more than they can ban CCW with a valid permit on the sidewalks or streets or any other public areas that are not included in the list of banned places that the state law mandates.

If this was Facebook... I would "like" this comment.

[Husker_Fan]

Plus, the statute lists a bunch of places that are owned by a political subdivision and are off limits.  Places like courthouses and board/council meetings.  Parks are not listed, and the statute doesn't let a political subdivision post anywhere else.  That's my take at least.

I know it's the subject of questions be passed on to the AG.  I hope we're making progress there.

[DaveB]

Good job Chuck! It appears that the gun owners have been heard in NP.

[Chuck Matson]

Positive discussion about our cause on am radio program, mugs in the morning today. Possible this will come to a vote July 3rd. Will keep everyone apprised as things progress. Thanks

[Chuck Matson]

Very good comment at online NP Bulletin. Try to find a editor that is as open minded as George Lauby. Absolutely blown away.

[Dan W]

To clarify a couple things... those who address the city council provide their address when they speak & we often report it, though it challenges the reporter, because the speakers don't write their names and addresses down. Also, taking a public stand on a controversial topic takes courage and congeniality. As I worked on this report, Chuck Matson was exceptionally congenial and forthright. Thank you Chuck.

Although it is grim to contemplate, another debate point seems to need to be stated clearly: If a shooter goes on a rampage, the only person who might be capable of stemming a slaughter is a person who is there and carrying a concealed weapon.

Thanks everyone for your civility in discussing this difficult topic.
    Posted by George Lauby    - 6/26/2012 6:12:12 PM

[Chuck Matson]

Just want everyone to know, however this turns out. I`m grateful, for the good people who have come forward to stand beside me. Some, that I did not know before this endeavor. No man is an island! Chuck

[Chuck Matson]

Very good city council meeting tonight. Actually, the after meeting was most productive. Things are starting to roll. Getting lots of support. Will post more as things begin to happen!

[Chuck Matson]

Noticed on the northplattebulletin.com site a person was arrested  after threatening his ex with a 5 inch bowie knife  and doesn't  seem to have been charged  with violating  our precious  93.05 ordinance. Took place in Memorial park.

[Chuck Matson]

August 7th  North Platte city council meeting will be first reading of amended ordinance 93.05.

[Dan W]

Chuck , do you have any idea what the language may be?

[Chuck Matson]

Dan, was gonna copy and paste but alas, it is to big of file. Send me a email @     chuckmatson@msn.com and I will send it to you. Item agenda 7 ordinance number 3851. Thanks

[Chuck Matson]

Also, can anyone tell me what the vote count was on lb454? How many for and against in final vote? Had it somewhere, cannot find now. Thanks

[Dan W]

Dan, was gonna copy and paste but alas, it is to big of file. Send me a email @     chuckmatson@msn.com and I will send it to you. Item agenda 7 ordinance number 3851. Thanks

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[Dan W]

Also, can anyone tell me what the vote count was on lb454? How many for and against in final vote? Had it somewhere, cannot find now. Thanks

CLOTURE on LB454
Voting in the affirmative, 33:
Baker Cornett Foley Kremer Schrock
Beutler Cudaback Friend Langemeier Smith
Bourne Cunningham Heidemann Louden Stuhr
Burling Engel Hudkins McDonald Synowiecki
Byars Erdman Janssen Pahls Wehrbein
Combs Fischer Jensen Pedersen, Dw.
Connealy Flood Kopplin Redfield

Voting in the negative, 9:
Brown Johnson Price Schimek Thompson
Chambers Mines Raikes Stuthman

Present and not voting, 3:

Excused and not voting, 4:
Aguilar Howard Landis Preister

 

 
On LB454

Voting in the affirmative, 31:
Baker Cornett Friend Louden Stuhr
Bourne Cunningham Heidemann McDonald Synowiecki
Brashear Engel Hudkins Pahls Wehrbein
Burling Erdman Janssen Pedersen, Dw.
Byars Fischer Jensen Redfield
Combs Flood Kremer Schrock
Connealy Foley Langemeier Smith

Voting in the negative, 9:
Beutler Chambers Mines Raikes Thompson
Brown Johnson Price Schimek

Present and not voting, 5:
Cudaback Kopplin Kruse Pederson, D. Stuthman

Excused and not voting, 4:
Aguilar Howard Landis Preister

 
CLOTURE on LB454A

Voting in the affirmative, 36:
Baker Cornett Friend Langemeier Smith
Beutler Cudaback Heidemann Louden Stuhr
Bourne Cunningham Howard McDonald Synowiecki
Brashear Engel Hudkins Pahls Wehrbein
Burling Erdman Janssen Pedersen, Dw.
Byars Fischer Kopplin Pederson, D.
Combs Flood Kremer Redfield
Connealy Foley Kruse Schrock

Voting in the negative, 7:
Chambers Mines Raikes Thompson
Johnson Price Schimek

Present and not voting, 2:
Brown Preister

Excused and not voting, 4:
Aguilar Jensen Landis Stuthman

 
   
VOTING on LB454A

Voting in the affirmative, 32:
Baker Cunningham Heidemann McDonald Smith
Bourne Engel Hudkins Pahls Stuhr
Brashear Erdman Janssen Pedersen, Dw. Synowiecki
Burling Fischer Kremer Pederson, D. Wehrbein
Byars Flood Kruse Raikes
Combs Foley Langemeier Redfield
Cornett Friend Louden Schrock

Voting in the negative, 6:
Chambers Mines Schimek
Howard Price Thompson

Present and not voting, 7:
Beutler Connealy Johnson Preister
Brown Cudaback Kopplin

Excused and not voting, 4:
Aguilar Jensen Landis Stuthman

[AAllen]

I'm attaching the proposed ordinance change for Chuck, This proposal though a bit wordier than I would have been will do what they are after and I think we should all give it our support.

[Chuck Matson]

CLOTURE on LB454
Voting in the affirmative, 33:
Baker Cornett Foley Kremer Schrock
Beutler Cudaback Friend Langemeier Smith
Bourne Cunningham Heidemann Louden Stuhr
Burling Engel Hudkins McDonald Synowiecki
Byars Erdman Janssen Pahls Wehrbein
Combs Fischer Jensen Pedersen, Dw.
Connealy Flood Kopplin Redfield

Voting in the negative, 9:
Brown Johnson Price Schimek Thompson
Chambers Mines Raikes Stuthman

Present and not voting, 3:

Excused and not voting, 4:
Aguilar Howard Landis Preister

 

 
On LB454

Voting in the affirmative, 31:
Baker Cornett Friend Louden Stuhr
Bourne Cunningham Heidemann McDonald Synowiecki
Brashear Engel Hudkins Pahls Wehrbein
Burling Erdman Janssen Pedersen, Dw.
Byars Fischer Jensen Redfield
Combs Flood Kremer Schrock
Connealy Foley Langemeier Smith

Voting in the negative, 9:
Beutler Chambers Mines Raikes Thompson
Brown Johnson Price Schimek

Present and not voting, 5:
Cudaback Kopplin Kruse Pederson, D. Stuthman

Excused and not voting, 4:
Aguilar Howard Landis Preister

 
CLOTURE on LB454A

Voting in the affirmative, 36:
Baker Cornett Friend Langemeier Smith
Beutler Cudaback Heidemann Louden Stuhr
Bourne Cunningham Howard McDonald Synowiecki
Brashear Engel Hudkins Pahls Wehrbein
Burling Erdman Janssen Pedersen, Dw.
Byars Fischer Kopplin Pederson, D.
Combs Flood Kremer Redfield
Connealy Foley Kruse Schrock

Voting in the negative, 7:
Chambers Mines Raikes Thompson
Johnson Price Schimek

Present and not voting, 2:
Brown Preister

Excused and not voting, 4:
Aguilar Jensen Landis Stuthman

 
   
VOTING on LB454A

Voting in the affirmative, 32:
Baker Cunningham Heidemann McDonald Smith
Bourne Engel Hudkins Pahls Stuhr
Brashear Erdman Janssen Pedersen, Dw. Synowiecki
Burling Fischer Kremer Pederson, D. Wehrbein
Byars Flood Kruse Raikes
Combs Foley Langemeier Redfield
Cornett Friend Louden Schrock

Voting in the negative, 6:
Chambers Mines Schimek
Howard Price Thompson

Present and not voting, 7:
Beutler Connealy Johnson Preister
Brown Cudaback Kopplin

Excused and not voting, 4:
Aguilar Jensen Landis Stuthman

Thanks Dan.

[Chuck Matson]

Vote was tabled last evening for amended version of 93.05. We have strong support and it is on record for doing away with ordinance completely. Looks like we have come full circle. I was told months ago I would not have the support base on the council to push for open carry. Sure is looking like we may get "the votes we need to throw out this ordinance! Standing room only! Great turnout! Made some people at the big table a little more humble!    Two weeks and we go at it again.

[NE Bull]

Good work, folks. THAT's how it's done!

[Dan W]

I would like to publicly commend you, Chuck,  for efforts that in my opinion epitomize the grass roots activism that the NFOA was formed to support.