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General Categories => Newsworthy => Topic started by: DenmanShooter on May 06, 2015, 10:23:13 PM
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http://www.ketv.com/news/mountain-lion-shot-killed-outside-metro-office/32851282 (http://www.ketv.com/news/mountain-lion-shot-killed-outside-metro-office/32851282)
Good thing. But remember, according to G&P you shouldn't shoot one unless it is attacking.
I think we should really pressure G&P to file charges against the City of Omaha and the officers individually.
Seriously, though, they did the right thing. That's a meal waiting to happen for a Mountain Lion.
I like the guy who says they determined it really was a Cougar. Like they really, really need an expert to figure that out!
And then there is this: "In attempt to find out how and why the cat was here, if there's any sort of injury or any kind of disease or something that might've affected the cats judgment," Baker said.
Honestly, you can't make this s**t up.
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Ernie will be spinning tomorrow!!!!
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He was just looking for Ernie so he could give him a hug!
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cat had a broken leg
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cat had a broken leg
Where did that info come from? Has the necropsy been released?
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Even after they found out it was a cougar, they still reported it as a mountain lion throughout the article.
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If you need 16 rounds to kill a cougar at that range ... you need some serious firearms training.
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If you need 16 rounds to kill a cougar at that range ... you need some serious firearms training.
I wonder how many shots missed entirely....
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Where did that info come from? Has the necropsy been released?
The back leg was probably where a lot of the 16 rounds went. :)
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Even after they found out it was a cougar, they still reported it as a mountain lion throughout the article.
They are the same thing. Same as panthers.
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feralcatkillr.............
Woulda done it right.
Size doesn't matter.
But..............Experience counts.
sfg
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Ernie should have thrown himself between the Cougar and the Isis gunfire!!
Greg58
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I wonder how many shots missed entirely....
Unfortunately, probably a lot of buckshot hit and wounded the animal before it was finally dispatched with pistol rounds. OPD would have done themselves a huge favor by calling in a hunter who hunts with a pistol or shotgun slugs.
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Where did that info come from? Has the necropsy been released?
that's according to the channel 3 news at 10 pm last nite.
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feralcatkillr.............
Woulda done it right.
Size doesn't matter.
But..............Experience counts.
Yep. CCI "quiet" 22s usually do the trick, but I might've reached for something a little bigger with that kitty.
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Ernie posted on face the that the Omaha Humane Society was in route with a tranquilizer. He had a picture of the cat sitting in the corner by the building looking pretty innocent... Neither Ernie or the news can be trusted to report what really happened. It does not sound kike it was a very clean kill.
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And what was the "humane society" going to do when it woke up from the tranquilizer with a broken leg? Not exactly seeing a lot of "humane" options there.
Maybe a cast and a crutch?
People been watchin' too many Disney films.
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I'm of the opinion that the situation was handled poorly. 1 or 2 men should have been able to keep an eye on the peaceful kitty until someone from the HS or Zoo showed up to knock the kitty out. Under peaceful surveillance - if it had made any serious attempt to leave - then by all means dispatch the critter.
Now - how quickly do the tranqs work ? I dunno.
But this entire situation reeks of not handling it right and wussies. I, for one, am not amused. I understand being afraid of a big kitty - having owned over a dozen domestic kitties, the thought of a 100lb kitty is terrifying heh... but still BOOOOOO.
The leg thing ? Known AFTER the fact.
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I'm of the opinion that the situation was handled poorly. 1 or 2 men should have been able to keep an eye on the peaceful kitty until someone from the HS or Zoo showed up to knock the kitty out. Under peaceful surveillance - if it had made any serious attempt to leave - then by all means dispatch the critter.
Now - how quickly do the tranqs work ? I dunno.
But this entire situation reeks of not handling it right and wussies. I, for one, am not amused. I understand being afraid of a big kitty - having owned over a dozen domestic kitties, the thought of a 100lb kitty is terrifying heh... but still BOOOOOO.
The leg thing ? Known AFTER the fact.
I totally understand they didn't know about the leg. was just giving that as a reason as to why it didn't run away
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And what was the "humane society" going to do when it woke up from the tranquilizer with a broken leg? Not exactly seeing a lot of "humane" options there.
Maybe a cast and a crutch?
People been watchin' too many Disney films.
They could put the cat out in other ways after they have her a look over. Buck shot and XX shots of 9mm or 40 is not a clean kill on large game.
I'm with unfy black eye for OPD not handled well. Why not call out the swat sniper and put one clean shot in her?
Also I don't trust the media to report the correct story any longer so maybe she got aggervaded who knows
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I'm with unfy black eye for OPD not handled well. Why not call out the swat sniper and put one clean shot in her?
I think a .308 from a sniper, while being the actual best option. would penetrate to far, If that's a block wall, it would go thru
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I think a .308 from a sniper, while being the actual best option. would penetrate to far, If that's a block wall, it would go thru
Agreed. Does OPD not carry 223? Depending on round and distance it would more than likely over pen also.
What's the spray of 00 buck at 20 yards? (honest question)
Better way to put the thing down is all I'm saying.
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The issue with tranqs is they are unpredictable. 1.) Shot placement. 2.) Dosage. How long to take effect? 3.) If you miss or get a bad hit, you just scare it off and then you have bigger issues.
No one knew it had a broken leg until it was all over.
In my opinion, having a broken leg makes it even more dangerous. Wild animals that are injured are even more unpredictable than otherwise. Even injured domesticated animals can be unpredictable.
You also have to remember 2 things...
1.) Mountain Lions are only dangerous when they are hungry.
2.) Mountain Lions are ALWAYS hungry.
Put it down.
I don't care if it took 100 shots. They don't care how long it takes you to die and how much you suffer when they incapacitate you and drink your blood and eat your still beating heart.
Kill em all. Then piss on em.
Yes, I have no love for the evil wrapped in fur.
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What's the spray of 00 buck at 20 yards? (honest question)
I've done some testing of various off-the-shelf 00 buck over the years. Spread depends on the load.
Here's a sampling at 15 yards.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/Mudinyeri/Guns/00%20Buck%20Testing%2020110507/20110507_FC15.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/Mudinyeri/Guns/00%20Buck%20Testing%2020110507/20110507_PS15.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/Mudinyeri/Guns/00%20Buck%20Testing%2020110507/20110507_RB15.jpg)
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I've done some testing of various off-the-shelf 00 buck over the years. Spread depends on the load.
Here's a sampling at 15 yards.
Wow. Those are underwhelming. What choke were you using?
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Maybe Ernie could organize a "cat life's matter" or "laying down don't shoot" protest.
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"Don't Shoot! I won't eat you... much."
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Wow. Those are underwhelming. What choke were you using?
None. 18.5" barrel, cylinder bore Mossberg 930 SPX.
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I'm not a big fan of fixed cylinder bore shotguns as having owned several over the years and still own one, the results from shooting them are much like you showed, if one does a little looking he can find self defense shotguns with chokes.
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I'm not a big fan of fixed cylinder bore shotguns as having owned several over the years and still own one, the results from shooting them are much like you showed, if one does a little looking he can find self defense shotguns with chokes.
That was not the point of the testing, however. The point was to determine which manufacturer/model of 00 buck held the tightest pattern at self-defense distances.
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That was not the point of the testing, however. The point was to determine which manufacturer/model of 00 buck held the tightest pattern at self-defense distances.
Do you prefer a shotgun for HD?
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I'm not a big fan of fixed cylinder bore shotguns as having owned several over the years and still own one, the results from shooting them are much like you showed, if one does a little looking he can find self defense shotguns with chokes.
The remington 3" magnum 00 buck shells actually produce a pretty star / cross pattern consistently. I'm a fan :D.
One of my eventual goals was to figure out how to load my own shells to produce said pattern heh.
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Do you prefer a shotgun for HD?
I prefer whatever gun is handy. :D
A more serious answer: No, a shotgun is not my first choice for HD. IMO, a shotgun is a better weapon for an AO where you are not concerned about friendlies.
With that said, I pattern all of my shotguns so I know where my pellets are flying. I have witnesses who have seen me shoot the head off of a pheasant.
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Back about the mountain lion.
the guy from game and parks was on KFAB radio this morning. He stated, that the Game and Parks has a rule, any mountain lion cought in a city is to be destroyed, not relocated. it has lost its fear of people and would never be returned to the wild, ( well as wild as Nebraska is)