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General Categories => General Firearm Discussion => Topic started by: dougusafsp on January 11, 2013, 07:21:12 AM
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I have seen this posted on numerous gun rights web sites and I think this is a great idea. Saturday January 19th at Noon. I will be there. We need to get out and protect our gun rights. Please pass this on because we have to be heard. This video by NutNFancy explains it very well.
http://youtu.be/MUAfft7l4wQ (http://youtu.be/MUAfft7l4wQ)
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Careful....you'll be put on the list....
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Let them put me on a list. I will not back down or be quieted.
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Wish I could attend. Don`t have sat-sun off and to far to drive before I go to work.
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Sure, might as well, nobody else is going to stand up for our rights if we don't.
Pretty sure I'm already on "the list" anyway...... ::)
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Careful....you'll be put on the list....
Sad
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For those of you in Rio Linda....I'm joking. Proud to be on the list.....
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I'll be there.
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Sorry I am not a big nutnfancy guy im a hickok45/sturmgewhere/vonhelmet/mrcolionnoir/cory and erika... guy
I am a big believer on what this country was founded on so count me in.
So can somone tell me the details are so I dont have to listen to him.
Are we just supposed to stand on the steps?
Do we bring signs?
Are you asking us to open carry?
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My wife and I would also like to attend a peacefull 2A event
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Okay fine I watched it, this march I posted on awhile back but cant seem to find the post now, but go to their facebook page it has more details and also for nebraska we have no organizing rep!, check out their page you will see the list. http://www.facebook.com/GunControlMoreCrime (http://www.facebook.com/GunControlMoreCrime)
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Long range forecast is good, my wife and I are planning on going... What side of the capitol are we going to meet on...
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here is the link to the event page. http://www.facebook.com/events/144639815690301/ (http://www.facebook.com/events/144639815690301/) Please use Facebook if you have it and invite your friends. looks like it is a peaceful rally. Use banners, flags and signs. Dress semi casual, we need to represent the gun owners of america, we need to surprise folks that we really are the people next door. So I am guessing wearing all your tactical gear is the sterotype they dont want people and media to see.
They are suggesting that if we have a state that allows open carry we do so, but I know nothing of the laws concerning this, does anyone here know?
Bring your family. And contact all your media outlets about the rally.
I would not mind helping to organize this, but I am on-call this week and will not be able to really give it alot of attention, bascially it will be impossible for me to do it on my own. So far they have no one listed as a state organizer yet, so alot of folks only know the date and time.
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Nebraska = "Open Carry" state, minus Omaha of course.
Ron
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Political rally = no carry if I recall correctly.
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Political rally = no carry if I recall correctly.
Probably best not to, don't want the wrong kind of publicity.
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My son and I are both new to Nebraska, and we will be there. We just escaped from California and welcome some of the new found freedoms here in Nebraska. We look forward to seeing all who attend, and maybe meeting some of you from this forum too. It's nice to be able to put a face to some of the names.
I also agree that we need to present ourselves in the best light we can, because the news will be looking for any and all reasons to label us as the nuts they want us to be.
Hear me now everyone, I came from California and I know this for a fact.
"Ignore your rights....they'll go away"
Frank
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My son and I are both new to Nebraska, and we will be there. We just escaped from California and welcome some of the new found freedoms here in Nebraska. We look forward to seeing all who attend, and maybe meeting some of you from this forum too. It's nice to be able to put a face to some of the names.
I also agree that we need to present ourselves in the best light we can, because the news will be looking for any and all reasons to label us as the nuts they want us to be.
Hear me now everyone, I came from California and I know this for a fact.
"Ignore your rights....they'll go away"
Frank
I'm glad that you made it out
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I am glad to see people are going. I would love to be the organizer but work schedule will not permit it. I say word of mouth is a great way of passing it on. Mention it on Facebook, Twitter, etc... Let fellow co-workers know and have them pass it on. We need LOTS of people to show up so everyone knows we are serious.
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Would enjoy the interaction with fellow NFOA members but had made an earlier commitment to assist in rifle and shotgun range operations for a few hundred Boy Scouts. I will be passing out NFOA data sheets to adults assisting during the day.
Have fun - be safe - represent the firearm owners of Nebraska, and the United States well.........
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Political rally = no carry if I recall correctly.
You recall correctly.
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Waiting to see who the Nebraska organizer is...I'm going to be there for sure...I have no excuse not to be.
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Correct on no open carry at a rally. I say we all meet on the steps of the main enterance on the North side of the building. Rally starts at noon. If people like we could meet at a resturaunt for breakfast and walk to the Capital Building. Just a thought. Any ideas post them here and maybe we can get this working with out an official organizer.
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maybe people who want to join can start with a breakfast and walk there together? or a post rally meal?
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good ideas all and thank you for knowledge of open carry at rally. Banners and signs will be a must or some good ole culpepper/gasden flags might be fun also. Might be more of a statement if we did meet somewhere for food or coffee and then march to the capitol steps.
Is there a way we can someone from the NFOA bring some T-shirts and we can all wear one, im more than willing to bring cash to purchase mine.
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A thought I might add. Would be a good idea to maybe meet and carpool to within a block or so of the capitol. And I happen to be looking at my Gadsen as we speak. I'll have to find a mast for it.
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I'll be there with an NFOA banner
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Guns Across America now has a Fb link for nebraska
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Hitchcock45 gave the following suggestions, except the first ....
First, in Nebraska, concealed or open carry is not permissible on the Capital grounds or at Political rallies. Leave your weapons in your car.
Second, if you bring signs then BE SURE you keep the statement short, clear, and concise. Use BIG print to make it easy to read from a distance of at least 50 ft, because not everyone will be 3 feet from your sign. Put your sign on a pole that is tall enough to move the sign above the viewpoint of all behind you. AND ABOVE ALL, DO NOT MISSPELL a word or use poor grammar on your sign. If you do then you WILL end up on TV looking like an ignorant fool, and that will be used by the media to smear all the rest in attendance.
Third, dress casual or business. This isn't an "Occupy" event. Come with a big plug of chewing tobacco in your mouth and spitting on the ground or where ever and you'll end up on the news as an "example" of the rest of us. The nearest PUBLIC restrooms with any capacity will be a block North of the North Side of the State Capital, at the State Office Building. Enter on the East or West side. The restrooms are located at the center of the hallway which connects the East and West entrances. If those on the first floor are full you can take an elevator or stairs to the floors above, which all have restrooms in the same relative locations. There will be an empty stall or urinal in one of them. There may be one in the basement as well, I don't remember though because if there is I never used it.
Fourth, If you see someone trying to be part of the protest but they are dressed like rednecks and have crappy, poorly spelled signs then ask them to leave or at least dispose of the sign. They could be folks wanting to make the rally look bad, especially if they want to provoke an argument or even a fight with you. They could be plants ... just like what occurred at some of the Conservative political rallies.
Fifth, DON'T LITER. Take out what you brought in. We aren't occupying anything. We pay the taxes that employ the public employees who clean up behind events, but we don't want to give anyone an excuse to compare us to other protest rallies.
Sixth, EXPECT counter protesters. DON'T argue with them. Don't even talk to them. Keep a good distance from them. If they insist on standing in your face walk toward the center of the rally crowd. Above all, stay out of their faces and let your signs do the talking, but DO NOT push your signs into their faces. You won't change their minds and they won't change yours. Don't be verbally abusive or threatening to any of them, that's assault. Don't touch any of them, that's battery. Don't even make silent "finger guns"or other intimidating actions. Your actions will end up on the news and make the rest of us look bad. Also, don't let anyone sucker you into a Liberal vs Conservative political argument. This rally is about the UNALIENABLE Right we have under the 2nd Amendment to both protect ourselves from the criminal element and from a government gone rogue, and to protest attempts to change or nullify the 2nd Amendment without the due process described in the Constitution. The Constitution is NOT just "our little book". It's the law of the land for everyone, and some people want to take it away from you, one piece at a time.
Seventh. IF you own a video camera with good quality and sound then bring it and be ready to film the interesting points of the rally, or any provocations, including actions of the police. Smartphone videos are second best, but are usually too poor in quality. Regardless, if you see something happening that should be recorded then record it with what ever you have. YOUR vantage point may be the one that answers all the questions or refutes all the wild claims or accusations.
Eighth and last , don't walk around looking like a sheep heading for the slaughter. Have a good time talking with fellow supporters of the Constitution when official speakers are not talking.
I am 71 years old. In my entire life, in my own country, I never thought I would EVER have to attend a rally to defend the Constitution of the United States of America. This is it, folks. NO OTHER issue means as much as this one. All of the Amendments to our Bill of Rights and our personal liberties have suffered SERIOUS erosion during the last 30 years. If we lose this battle for the 2nd Amendment then what is left of the rest of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution isn't worth the paper they are written on. An armed person is a citizen. A disarmed person is a slave.
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Great post GreyGeek
I am pointing to it from Facebook so all my friends can read it even if they are not NFOA
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In other news:
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/50443875/#50443875 (http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/50443875/#50443875)
The media is tearing us apart, one inarticulate talking head at a time. This was a massacre.
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I'll be there with an NFOA banner
I don't have a NFOA banner but I can wear my NFOA shirt :laugh:
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In other news:
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/50443875/#50443875 (http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/50443875/#50443875)
It's easier to prove someone wrong than prove something is right. Especially if they don't let you finish your sentences or thoughts. I don't like when anyone interviews like that, but it happens every interview. That's how it is when you want to prove them wrong. :-\
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I don't like when anyone interviews like that, but it happens every interview. That's how it is when you want to prove them wrong.
That's because the Left wing media doesn't want a debate or a discussion. They want a lecture, with them doing all the lecturing. Talking with the media isn't a discussion, it is an interrogation under hot lights. You are at their mercy. They control the environment, they've made up the questions they will ask in advance, they know what answers they will allow and will talk over you, i.e., Piers Morgan style, to keep you from maintaining a coherent line of reasoning.
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I have never gone to a political event in my life. This one is worth it. I will be there. I would love to buy a NFOA shirt to wear at the event. Can someone bring some? XL is my size if someone can. I think some of my other t-shirts would work against us as they can be seen as antagonistic. An NFOA shirt would be a much better choice. Where else could I get one?
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I have never gone to a political event in my life. This one is worth it. I will be there. I would love to buy a NFOA shirt to wear at the event. Can someone bring some? XL is my size if someone can. I think some of my other t-shirts would work against us as they can be seen as antagonistic. An NFOA shirt would be a much better choice. Where else could I get one?
Check with Moeller Arms.
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Yes, I have some NFOA shirts at the shop
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I am South of Lincoln. Anywhere down this way? If not, can I buy one from you at the rally?
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Yes, I have some NFOA shirts at the shop
Is there a way Rlmoeller you can bring some and we can pm you our sizes and pay for them that day. At least 3 of us here would buy and wear them, I am an XL also.
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Does anyone local have any smaller Gadsden flags? I have a 3X5 that hangs at my house, but might be a little big to take to Lincoln. I am looking for maybe 2X3 or a little smaller. I can order one online, but I am not sure it would be here in time and they are probably getting mobbed with orders right now also. Thanks in advance.
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Does anyone local have any smaller Gadsden flags?
SuperSparky, Depending on where you are... Canfield's, at 84th and Center - Omaha has a large selection of flags to select from.
Canfield's Sporting Goods
8457 W. Center Road, Omaha, NE 68124
402-393-3363 or 800-333-2263
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I think (not sure) that DE Guns in Lincoln has NFOA shirts. You might want to call and ask them.
I will try to be there, but I may have a prior commitment.
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SuperSparky, Depending on where you are... Canfield's, at 84th and Center - Omaha has a large selection of flags to select from.
Canfield's Sporting Goods
8457 W. Center Road, Omaha, NE 68124
402-393-3363 or 800-333-2263
SuperSparky, Depending on where you are... Canfield's, at 84th and Center - Omaha has a large selection of flags to select from.
Canfield's Sporting Goods
8457 W. Center Road, Omaha, NE 68124
402-393-3363 or 800-333-2263
I actually have seen them there, just forgot. Thanks for the info, I will run down there tomorrow.
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We are driving in from Columbus area...would love to pay cash for NFOA signs or? onsite otherwise I need to make 2A homemade signs
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good ideas all and thank you for knowledge of open carry at rally.
It's important to note that we weren't just talking about open carry. Concealed carry is also prohibited at a political rally.
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No open carry at a political rally? I have never heard of this. I tried to look it up and can't find anything. I know concealed carry is illegal but never heard open carry is. Does anyone know where this is in the books?
Anyways some friends and I will be there. Thanks for the info GreyGeek
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No open carry at a political rally? I have never heard of this. I tried to look it up and can't find anything. I know concealed carry is illegal but never heard open carry is. Does anyone know where this is in the books?
Anyways some friends and I will be there. Thanks for the info GreyGeek
I too would be interested in seeing a citation for this claim. As far as I can tell, the only place that the phrase "political rally" appears in Nebraska law is in 69-2441 (http://"http://uniweb.legislature.ne.gov/laws/statutes.php?statute=69-2441"), a concealed carry statute.
I can't find any relevant restriction/prohibition in Lincoln city ordinances either.
My understanding is that the Office of the Capitol Commission has a "no firearms except for LEOs" policy within the capitol building, but it is unclear whether this applies to locations on the capitol premises but outside the capitol building.
UPDATE: There doesn't seem to be anything about this in the Capitol Commission's regs either: http://www.sos.ne.gov/rules-and-regs/regsearch/Rules/Capitol_Commission/Title-6/Chapter-1.pdf (http://www.sos.ne.gov/rules-and-regs/regsearch/Rules/Capitol_Commission/Title-6/Chapter-1.pdf)
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if its not stated in law, you might be in a gray area. play it safe. the last thing we need is the media getting video/pictures of us getting tickets/arrested. leave the guns in the car.
i will not be there. i have to cover for a coworker who's mother in law died.
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if its not stated in law, you might be in a gray area. play it safe. the last thing we need is the media getting video/pictures of us getting tickets/arrested. leave the guns in the car.
I am waiting to hear back from the Capitol administrator on this question. I understand folks wanting to "play it safe," but if there is no prohibition, there is no prohibition. I want to know the answer, and I imagine others here do too.
This rally aside, a senator explicitly told me the other day that he would like for his aides to open carry inside the Capitol, so if nothing else I want to find out the answer in order to pass it along to that senator.
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I personally think open carry at this rally would be detrimental to the cause. I'm guessing the media would spin it as "Armed gunmen march on Capital.". Yes, it's our right, but we want to present an image that won't be used against us.
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I agree. Play it safe and leave guns at home or in your car.
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I will not be carrying. I am interested in knowing whether it is actually prohibited though.
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I will not be carrying either, but I am currently waiting for Lt. Caradori to return my phone call on the subject as he handles those issue at the state capitol. Personally our presence and our signs, flags & banners will say more than words or weapons ever could.
Does anyone have a suggestion as to a place to meet before hand? or just the steps on K st and Centennial mall at Noon
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Open carry is not addressed in Nebraska Law, but I do believe that the City of Lincoln has an ordinance that deals with this. Also personally I would not recommend the carry of firearms at an event like this. That is what they did in California and look now they have no way to carry for self defense (OK, there are concealed carry permits if you are politically connected).
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I personally think open carry at this rally would be detrimental to the cause. I'm guessing the media would spin it as "Armed gunmen march on Capital.". Yes, it's our right, but we want to present an image that won't be used against us.
For anyone who thinks that won't happen, search "Black Panther California Capitol" and see what you find.
Did pretty much the most hurt to gun rights in California that it possibly could.
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For anyone who thinks that won't happen, search "Black Panther California Capitol" and see what you find.
Did pretty much the most hurt to gun rights in California that it possibly could.
And more recently look at their ban on the open carrying of unloaded firearms, this is a reation from open carry protests where people openly carried their unloaded firearms while protesting for better concealed carry laws.
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Open carry is not addressed in Nebraska Law, but I do believe that the City of Lincoln has an ordinance that deals with this.
I reviewed Lincoln ordinances today and did not find anything applicable to carrying at a political rally by a person who is not individually prohibited from possessing a firearm as a result of past convictions, etc. If you can find an ordinance that prohibits open carry at a political rally in Lincoln, I'm all ears.
Also personally I would not recommend the carry of firearms at an event like this. That is what they did in California and look now they have no way to carry for self defense (OK, there are concealed carry permits if you are politically connected).
Thanks, Gov. Reagan!
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I will not be carrying either, but I am currently waiting for Lt. Caradori to return my phone call on the subject as he handles those issue at the state capitol.
Sean enforces the law; he doesn't make it. (Cool comfort if you get arrested, of course...)
As far as I can tell, there is no federal or state law prohibiting open carry at the Capitol. There is no Lincoln ordinance prohibiting it. There is no Capitol Commission regulation that prohibits it.
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I spoke with Lt. Sean Caradori today, awesome talk and a really nice man, basically here is the jist, there is no law that prohibits open carry in the capitol or on the grounds, hes even had senators ask him and advised them they may open but also they will deal with their fellow senators, but we would be watched like a hawk and also he advised me if somone is open carrying and they step onto the sidewalk they are now on city property not state and may be cited for causing a disturbance by LPD. Obviously this is not the exposure we need. Considering there could be other pro-2a groups that do not share the same feelings as us and opposing groups it would make us look bad. GreyGeeks excellent post and Lt caradori's thoughts on it I would suggest we all agree to follow Grey's advise and even go as far as distance ourselves from individual that make us look bad, or ask them politely to put their weapon in there vehicle or keep away from our group.
On a side not I am not sure if anyone has thought about this but Lt. Caradori told me that we may get a facility use permit and then we will access to power and a podium if we would like to have a speaker (any ideas for speakers). I will make the calls tomorrow for the permit.
Friday night my wife and I are hoping to get to Omaha for Flags and possible stop by RLMoellers for T-shirts since no one else has offered I would be willing to buy some shirts at the sizes you need and bring them saturday.
here is Greys post again which I will be using as advice and suggest we all adopt the same attitude
Hitchcock45 gave the following suggestions, except the first ....
First, in Nebraska, concealed or open carry is not permissible on the Capital grounds or at Political rallies. Leave your weapons in your car.
Second, if you bring signs then BE SURE you keep the statement short, clear, and concise. Use BIG print to make it easy to read from a distance of at least 50 ft, because not everyone will be 3 feet from your sign. Put your sign on a pole that is tall enough to move the sign above the viewpoint of all behind you. AND ABOVE ALL, DO NOT MISSPELL a word or use poor grammar on your sign. If you do then you WILL end up on TV looking like an ignorant fool, and that will be used by the media to smear all the rest in attendance.
Third, dress casual or business. This isn't an "Occupy" event. Come with a big plug of chewing tobacco in your mouth and spitting on the ground or where ever and you'll end up on the news as an "example" of the rest of us. The nearest PUBLIC restrooms with any capacity will be a block North of the North Side of the State Capital, at the State Office Building. Enter on the East or West side. The restrooms are located at the center of the hallway which connects the East and West entrances. If those on the first floor are full you can take an elevator or stairs to the floors above, which all have restrooms in the same relative locations. There will be an empty stall or urinal in one of them. There may be one in the basement as well, I don't remember though because if there is I never used it.
Fourth, If you see someone trying to be part of the protest but they are dressed like rednecks and have crappy, poorly spelled signs then ask them to leave or at least dispose of the sign. They could be folks wanting to make the rally look bad, especially if they want to provoke an argument or even a fight with you. They could be plants ... just like what occurred at some of the Conservative political rallies.
Fifth, DON'T LITER. Take out what you brought in. We aren't occupying anything. We pay the taxes that employ the public employees who clean up behind events, but we don't want to give anyone an excuse to compare us to other protest rallies.
Sixth, EXPECT counter protesters. DON'T argue with them. Don't even talk to them. Keep a good distance from them. If they insist on standing in your face walk toward the center of the rally crowd. Above all, stay out of their faces and let your signs do the talking, but DO NOT push your signs into their faces. You won't change their minds and they won't change yours. Don't be verbally abusive or threatening to any of them, that's assault. Don't touch any of them, that's battery. Don't even make silent "finger guns"or other intimidating actions. Your actions will end up on the news and make the rest of us look bad. Also, don't let anyone sucker you into a Liberal vs Conservative political argument. This rally is about the UNALIENABLE Right we have under the 2nd Amendment to both protect ourselves from the criminal element and from a government gone rogue, and to protest attempts to change or nullify the 2nd Amendment without the due process described in the Constitution. The Constitution is NOT just "our little book". It's the law of the land for everyone, and some people want to take it away from you, one piece at a time.
Seventh. IF you own a video camera with good quality and sound then bring it and be ready to film the interesting points of the rally, or any provocations, including actions of the police. Smartphone videos are second best, but are usually too poor in quality. Regardless, if you see something happening that should be recorded then record it with what ever you have. YOUR vantage point may be the one that answers all the questions or refutes all the wild claims or accusations.
Eighth and last , don't walk around looking like a sheep heading for the slaughter. Have a good time talking with fellow supporters of the Constitution when official speakers are not talking.
I am 71 years old. In my entire life, in my own country, I never thought I would EVER have to attend a rally to defend the Constitution of the United States of America. This is it, folks. NO OTHER issue means as much as this one. All of the Amendments to our Bill of Rights and our personal liberties have suffered SERIOUS erosion during the last 30 years. If we lose this battle for the 2nd Amendment then what is left of the rest of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution isn't worth the paper they are written on. An armed person is a citizen. A disarmed person is a slave.
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The Nebraska organizer of this event has stated on facebook that he has a state legislator speaking (Kinter?)
https://www.facebook.com/events/324055167698331/ (https://www.facebook.com/events/324055167698331/)
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Perhaps empty holsters could make a statement of some sort? IDK.
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Im in.
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Perhaps empty holsters could make a statement of some sort? IDK.
I'm game for whatever people want to do, but it seems to me that the empty holster events are designed for contexts where people would be carrying but for the fact that they are legally prohibited from doing so. There is nothing legally prohibiting folks from open carrying at the Capitol, so I'm not sure what message the empty holsters would be meant to send.
I don't think carrying firearms is an essential component of a good rally, but I am offended at the idea that a peaceful, respectable-looking person would be ostracized by a gun rights group for exercising his right to bear arms in public.
I just had a half-hour conversation with the Capitol administrator, and he confirmed that people have a right to peaceably assemble on the Capitol grounds with or without a permit (though not necessarily inside the building itself), and that there is no prohibition on the open carry of firearms on the Capitol premises. Also, don't block entrances, don't try to attach stuff to the structure itself, etc.
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CitizenClark, what we are saying is look at the cause and effect. We constantly talk about the disarming of the populace and historically how that has led to civilian victimazation, also how bans lead to confiscation and citing history. Well look at the history of open carry protests, they lead to bad things happening not good.
We want to avoid the bad and encourage the good.
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I like the empty holster idea but I am still considering its merits.
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CitizenClark, what we are saying is look at the cause and effect. We constantly talk about the disarming of the populace and historically how that has led to civilian victimazation, also how bans lead to confiscation and citing history. Well look at the history of open carry protests, they lead to bad things happening not good.
We want to avoid the bad and encourage the good.
I hear you, and I understand that we are talking about strategy here. I'm not planning to open carry at this event, but I don't have a problem with someone else open-carrying, especially if we are talking about a pistol in a hip holster and not an evil black rifle hanging on a sling in front of someone's tactical vest. I have open-carried a fair amount in Lincoln and elsewhere in Nebraska, and I just don't buy into the idea that cops are going to descend on responsible, well-dressed people who happen to have sidearms on. This runs contrary to my experience.
I do have a big problem with anyone who thinks it is a good idea to tell the media "oh, that guy with the gun is crazy and he isn't with us!" It is one thing if the guy _is_ crazy, and quite another if he is simply someone who decided when he got up that morning that he was going to bear arms out in the world that day. I don't think we should act as though carrying guns is weird or unusual or scary--it isn't. Carrying guns is a normal, everyday experience for a lot of folks who go to church, have kids, and work hard at their jobs. We shouldn't help the anti-gunners marginalize people who carry guns. There is nothing "weird" about carrying guns, openly or concealed.
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I do have a big problem with anyone who thinks it is a good idea to tell the media "oh, that guy with the gun is crazy and he isn't with us!" It is one thing if the guy _is_ crazy, and quite another if he is simply someone who decided when he got up that morning that he was going to bear arms out in the world that day. I don't think we should act as though carrying guns is weird or unusual or scary--it isn't. Carrying guns is a normal, everyday experience for a lot of folks who go to church, have kids, and work hard at their jobs. We shouldn't help the anti-gunners marginalize people who carry guns. There is nothing "weird" about carrying guns, openly or concealed.
Here we agree, but as a strategist I will continue to politely recommend that people do not carry at events like this because of the issues. I also occasionally open carry, and I do it in the heart of evil for Nebraska "Omaha." Never had a comment or been questioned about it. Might that someday change, most likely, but it will not stop me from doing so when appropriate.
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A-M Surplus
710 Fort Crook Road Bellevue Ne.
Phone: 402-731-3355
E-Mail: staff@amsurplus.com
Monday - Friday: 10am - 5pm
Saturday: 10am-3pm
Also has a large selection of Flags.. various "Don't Tread On Me", Gadsen, Goliad....
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Guys, please don't carry at the event.
If everyone is carrying, especially open carrying, it simply will not LOOK good. A bunch of armed men showing up in protest just aint kosher.
Think of it from the other side of the fence... we now have all of these weapons around the place and if you wanna talk about being uncomfy and knee jerk reaction, that'll cause it.
Don't look like a mob or a flash mob or anything else that might cause panic in anyone.
It's also important to note that it's in essence a political rally.
BEING PRESENT
Is the important thing, not having a weapon on you.
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Has anyone from Omaha started talking aboot carpooling yet? I plan on attending.
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I think I will make a sign that says "Liberal Democrat, Obama supporting, Gay Atheists Against Gun Control". Painted in Rainbow colors. Yes every one of those things are an untruth, and if you happen to be a Liberal Democrat, Obama supporting Gay Atheist, I will let you carry the sign, but my thinking is that whoever is carrying that sign will be what causes the Gun grabbers to lose what little brains they have.
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Criminals may see all those armed cars as a target rich environment. I despise leaving my gun in the car.
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Criminals may see all those armed cars as a target rich environment. I despise leaving my gun in the car.
I agree, I would prefer to leave mine at home. Of course I live 5 minutes away...
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I'll be there, unarmed, unfortunately. Anybody up for some coffee prior to the get together?
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I will be attending unarmed and leaving firearms locked in a safe at home...I think we will be safe for the day, remember this is Nebraska and in Lincoln there is leo's not far away...I don't want to carry and play into the fears of the LEFT MEDIA !!!
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Love the coffee before hand idea. Where at?
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Panera bread at 68th and O street ok? I'm open to suggestions, just throwing that out there.
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I am definitely going. I posted this in the Events Discussion thread. I would not recommend any practice of open carry. This event is more than about just our ability to show we have guns. People will want to inflame this event and twist it around in any ugly way they can portray it. The press is going to look for every excuse to exploit this rally and show that we are a bunch of gun nutty whackos preppin for WWIII. This is happening on a national level with the media already. Emotions are high, on both sides. Gun owners are being made out as the persecuted witches of Salem, MA.
This rally is about telling our representatives that they are not representing. This is about saying we are law abiding patriotic Americans, guaranteed by the Constitution to certain inalienable rights. The specific one of which is the pull pin of a free and liberated society. We are not a special interest group. Gun owners make up almost half the nations population but they represent the whole nation as a free society. Government is not sovereign. People as individuals are sovereign. Our republic only retains sovereignty because it represents We the People. When government wants to nullify the 2nd or even infringe than they have effectively fired themselves as representatives of the People.
Our forefathers knew this. It was brilliant, back then it was obvious. Now its all too clear.
No, this is not about showing our strength this weekend. This is about showing our sovereignty, as free men and women, our solidarity as fellow Americans, demanding from our representatives Constitutional Protection against a rogue Federal Government. Because if not, than the republic is no longer legitimate.
stepping off soapbox now.... ::)
This was a great article by former Superior Court Judge Napolitano. The title is a little inflammatory to say the least but it is the very point.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/10/the-right-to-shoot-tyrants-not-deer/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/10/the-right-to-shoot-tyrants-not-deer/)
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I'll be out of state this weekend for a prior commitment, but I am encouraging everyone I know to go. Just FYI.
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I have previous plans that I can't get out of and can't attend.
Please, everyone be on the lookout and be very aware that there is supposed to be an ANTI-GUN demonstration at the Capitol at the same time as the pro-gun demonstration.
Beware of "infiltrators" and those that would sneak into our group only to start trouble that would ultimately be blamed on the NFOA/NRA and other gun rights groups.
I will be with you all in spirit.
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Our cub scout troop has pine wood derby that day, so I doubt I can make it. I'll be there in spirit, though. Tired of all the attacks on law-abiding gun owners!
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No, this is not about showing our strength this weekend. This is about showing our sovereignty, as free men and women, our solidarity as fellow Americans, demanding from our representatives Constitutional Protection against a rogue Federal Government. Because if not, than the republic is no longer legitimate.
I just want to say that I dont carry to show my strength, I carry everyday because I alone am responsible for the safety of myself and my family. I havent decided if I am going to the event yet but I really resent going anywhere without being armed. It seems to me that it is good for the "people" to see law abiding, calm civilians carrying guns in public. Compromise is often the mother of enslavement.
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Anyone know a place to get a gadsden flag in Lincoln?
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Our cub scout troop has pine wood derby that day, so I doubt I can make it. I'll be there in spirit, though. Tired of all the attacks on law-abiding gun owners!
HEY! I'm skipping out of Pinewood Derby duties to man a booth at a Women's Expo, so YOU can march your butt downtown and stand for the greater good. Heck bring the boys down. We can put them on sign duty (Artist pin). I see no better way for them to earn their Citizenship pin than to utilize two of our Rights to protect a third.
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HEY! I'm skipping out of Pinewood Derby duties to man a booth at a Women's Expo, so YOU can march your butt downtown and stand for the greater good. Heck bring the boys down. We can put them on sign duty (Artist pin). I see no better way for them to earn their Citizenship pin than to utilize two of our Rights to protect a third.
YEAH, what NE Bull said.... I'm doing a Shooting Sports Training presentation to the council then heading to a District Camporee at Bellevue Rod and Gun Club to visit rifle and shotgun events..
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I see no better way for them to earn their Citizenship pin than to utilize two of our Rights to protect a third.
Agree!
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I can't make the rally, but I will be at the Unicam on business on Friday. The topic may just come up :)
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HEY! I'm skipping out of Pinewood Derby duties to man a booth at a Women's Expo, so YOU can march your butt downtown and stand for the greater good. Heck bring the boys down. We can put them on sign duty (Artist pin). I see no better way for them to earn their Citizenship pin than to utilize two of our Rights to protect a third.
Well Damn son, you talked me into it. I'll duck out early and come stand with the patriots.
aaand I'll be at the Expo on Sunday to help out :)
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Open carry is not addressed in Nebraska Law, but I do believe that the City of Lincoln has an ordinance that deals with this. Also personally I would not recommend the carry of firearms at an event like this. That is what they did in California and look now they have no way to carry for self defense (OK, there are concealed carry permits if you are politically connected).
The statement about concealed carry in California is not entirely true. I am an average Joe and not connected at all, and I have a permit. It is though, not the same in all of California. There are places such as San Francisco that you couldn't steal one if you tried. It's a matter of who the local sheriff is. Some will and some wont.
Frank
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I need to put in another two cents about the open carry. You have the right to carry, and that is a great thing. Those in California had the right to open carry too, but used it to provoke LEO's to force some type of altercation. This went on so much that some idiots got themselves shot because they refused to cooperate with the officer, or made a wrong move when things got heated. Many people found themselves staring down a gun, being arrested, and hassled because they did not act wisely. So what I am saying is choose you battles, and choose the battle grounds even more so. You have the right and it sounds like you can carry there. But at this event there will be some very high emotions, and provoking people who may falsely accuse you, or those with you. Its best to put on our best face and represent the cause. It will be evident to everyone there that we all carry and use guns in a safe, legal and responsible manner. Just my thoughts for what it's worth.
Frank
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I cannot make it because I have a bad back and the pain would be too much. I will be rooting for the cause though.
CNG
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I have taken tomorrow off to go to Omaha and get some NFOA T-shirts with my wife, So what im saying is I am taking orders. Whoever needs NFOA T-shirts PM me, and I will pick them up tomorrow from RLMoeller's
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I have taken tomorrow off to go to Omaha and get some NFOA T-shirts with my wife, So what im saying is I am taking orders. Whoever needs NFOA T-shirts PM me, and I will pick them up tomorrow from RLMoeller's
Price and how large of sizes available?
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I have no idea you would have to PM RLMoeller for that since it is his shop, im just doing the pickups ill check my PM's in the morning and i will have my laptop when in Omaha
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I have no idea you would have to PM RLMoeller for that since it is his shop, im just doing the pickups ill check my PM's in the morning and i will have my laptop when in Omaha
MOELLER ARMS
Location:
7508 S. 84th St
Brentwood Plaza
La Vista, NE 68128
View Map
Retail Hours:
Tuesday: 6 PM - 8:30 PM
Wednesday: 6 PM - 8:30 PM
Thursday: 6 PM - 8:30 PM
Friday: 6 PM - 8:30 PM
Saturday: 12 PM - 5 PM
Sunday: Closed
Monday: Closed
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Price and how large of sizes available?
When they were for sale at the annual meeting, they had up to 3x I believe. Can't remember the price...
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I had the shirts made up to 4x, but quantites were limited. I don't know what he has left, but short sleeve tshirts are $15, long sleeve $18, unless you need 2x-4x, then they are $1 more each. All profits are donated to NFOA. Neither Rod or I have made one cent on the sales of the shirts.
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Hey all I just noticed this. The person that has stepped up to volunteer for organizing this for our state on Facebook does not seem to have a PA system and has gotten senator Kitner to come and speak, one guy has volunteered his guitar amp but I was wondering if someone actually had a good system so we have insurance so this wont be a joke and it doesnt work or something falls through. heres the link http://www.facebook.com/events/324055167698331/ (http://www.facebook.com/events/324055167698331/)
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Anyone know an auctioneer?
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Hey, Barry, run down to Jewell and grab my brother's DJ set-up. ;) I've got a great collection of pro gun music we could play too. ;)
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leaving for Omaha again PM me and let me know if you need a t-shirt, ill have my laptop and give out my number in a PM
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Bonehead manuever #1 of my day, I didnt pay attention to FarmerRicks post of their times or check it myself. I drove all the way to Omaha and the store is closed! Rlmoeller sent me a PM saying that he will have a box of T-shirts at the rally tomorrow I gave him your shirt sizes. It's Not a very long drive home from Omaha to Lincoln, but it can be when your wife is smiling and laughing at you the whole time.
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Lol whoops:)
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Some members want to meet beforehand.
I have the meeting room reserved for us at The Egg and I.
The Egg and I
1601 Q Street
Lincoln NE
The room is reserved for 10:30, it is under my name (Scott Barry).
It will fit around 20 people, I will see you there.
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I put this on another string, but here are some ideas I have had for signs. Please make sure that your spelling is accurate. The media will use anything against us they can. Some of these are from people on here, sorry I cannot recall who said what.
Its a Right. Not a privilege.
Gun Control is not about Guns, it is about Control
More guns = Less Crime
Gun free zones = Victim concentration camp
Right to bear arms doesn't mean keep them in a safe.
Where the people fear the Govt, there is tyranny. Where the Govt fears the People, there is Liberty
Disarmament always precedes tyranny.
Oh, if guns were illegal no one would have one? Please, tell me more about how nobody can buy drugs.
There is no Left or Right, there is only tyranny and freedom
Chicago: #1 in gun control, #1 in murder and gang violence.
84,999,989 American Gun Owners killed no one yesterday!
Since WWII ALL but 1 multiple person public shooting occurred in a gun free zone
2191 people are SAVED every day by the lawful use of a firearm.
Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance: They are the peoples' Liberty's teeth-George Washington
The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws. - Tacitus
The greatest danger to our American freedoms is a govt that ignores the Constitution - Thomas Jefferson
A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government. - George Washington
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Does anyone have a guess at how many of us will turn out? Maybe we should create a new thread with a poll asking who will be attending?
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One correction, it's bear arms, not bare.
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I could grab some sheets of card board from work if someone has markers or paint
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One correction, it's bear arms, not bare.
Fixed
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Yeah, I have been told I misspelled that. This, after telling everyone to be sure they spell it correctly. HAHA. I will laugh at myself, you don't have to. I was planning to wear a sleeveless shirt to bare my arms.
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Yeah, I have been told I misspelled that. This, after telling everyone to be sure they spell it correctly. HAHA. I will laugh at myself, you don't have to. I was planning to wear a sleeveless shirt to bare my arms.
What? This isn't a rally for THOSE kind of guns?
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I think it would be so cool to get this DanW to be our spokesman
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Wish I could go but my wife just had surgery.
Another idea for a sign:
-Assault is an action not a rifle.
-2nd amendment is already common sense, not the laws to regulate it.
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I'm IN!
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See you all there!
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Gun free zones = Victim concentration camp
This, IMHO, is not all that effective, the focus would be on the wording and the dialogue would shift away from the message.
-Assault is an action not a rifle.
Nice.
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Hey all, The guy on facebook that has taken it open himself to organize this. Honestly it sounds like hes doing the best he can but he is doing some last minute stuff like now, he wants to know if anyone wants to speak at the rally.
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My wife and I are driving in from Dakota City.
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This, IMHO, is not all that effective, the focus would be on the wording and the dialogue would shift away from the message.
Your probably correct. Feel free to suggest your own. I didn't think on that one very hard or consider the double meaning with that expression. Like I said, come up with some of your own, if you want to help. Better yet, show up today with a few and pass them out. Either way, its all good. See ya at the capital
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Thanks to everyone who showed up today! I would guess somewhere between 3-400 people showed up. Probably 2 dozen people spontaneously came up from the crowd to speak. That was great to see, the only problem was that it stretched the rally out so long that people started to drift away. We handed out a bunch of NFOA brochures, and Rod, Andy, and Scott all got up and spoke very well.
Senator Kitner did a great job speaking to us and really fired up the crowd:
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I had a good time (if you know what I mean) at the rally. I generally enjoyed the folks who stepped up to the mic to speak. My own personal take follows: A couple times it turned into the crazy tinfoil hat conspiracy theory hour, but on the whole, I agreed with what people were saying. I particularly appreciated that the gentleman who planned/set up the whole thing was not what the mass of people would consider a "gun nut" and that women also spoke up, and spoke up well. We (myself and Nightraidersomenumbers) trickled out at about 2:30ish, the event was dragging a bit at that point, but on the whole, well done.
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Did anybody get the name of the gals that spoke? THEY are the kind of folks we need in front of our legislators testifying against these ridiculous laws.
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Just saw this one
http://www.kmtv.com/news/local/187605161.html (http://www.kmtv.com/news/local/187605161.html)
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Just watched 10/11 and 8. Short but at least coverage.
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Looks like my wife and I were right behind you Wusker. She's in the pink sweatshirt on the right facebooking what we were doing.
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And I am dead center in the back there, looking backwards. Nightraider is next to me in the ball cap.
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Yeah me and my son were holding the Molon Labe/Gonzalez AR-15 flag. That sucks man, one thing I didnt do was socialize much. and when the longwinded and conspiracy theory guys went long rants we left but not before I got my NFOA t-shirt. heard it went on till 2:30. sounds like we need to do this more often and also be more organized but overall was a very positive experience for me and my family
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YES! we need to get together more often. And interact more with our government officials.
HMMM How can we do that?
Here's a few thoughts;
How about a yearly meeting where various Senators and such are invited and we can talk politics over a nice meal and do a little shooting, too? Oh ya we tried that- maybe 20 people show.
I know! Let put together some Meet and Greets with prospective candidates and discuss our views in a relaxed sort of setting. Oh crap, we did that, too and maybe 10 members showed up.
HEY! Here is a crazy idea! Let's take a day and spend it IN the capital visiting with our representatives in the legislature on a one on one basis. Then take a few minutes and oversee the debates and voting on the floor. Make our presence known that we are watching. Oh Hell, we did that, too. we had, what maybe 20 people at that event also.
And now this one will blow your freeking mind! How about when the Judicial Committee meets to discuss and take public testimony on a bill relative to our cause, let's sit in and back our lobbyist or even testify to the committee. Oh nevermind, we do that for most every bill and we are lucky to get a couple of board members and one old grumpy tired guy who just got off a ten hour overnight!
Maybe you are right, maybe we should get together more and do something!
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I feel your pain Jeremy. What we have to do is keep digging, finding new members and pushing the members to contribute more. One of these days we will find enough members who will lead the charge and become more active. Until then, I'm still pushing full speed ahead.
Thanks to all my brothers and sisters who came today.
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Ha, i managed to evade every single camera there.
I had to call it quits when the tinfoil hat guys started going.
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YES! we need to get together more often. And interact more with our government officials.
HMMM How can we do that?
Here's a few thoughts;
How about a yearly meeting where various Senators and such are invited and we can talk politics over a nice meal and do a little shooting, too? Oh ya we tried that- maybe 20 people show.
I know! Let put together some Meet and Greets with prospective candidates and discuss our views in a relaxed sort of setting. Oh crap, we did that, too and maybe 10 members showed up.
HEY! Here is a crazy idea! Let's take a day and spend it IN the capital visiting with our representatives in the legislature on a one on one basis. Then take a few minutes and oversee the debates and voting on the floor. Make our presence known that we are watching. Oh Hell, we did that, too. we had, what maybe 20 people at that event also.
And now this one will blow your freeking mind! How about when the Judicial Committee meets to discuss and take public testimony on a bill relative to our cause, let's sit in and back our lobbyist or even testify to the committee. Oh nevermind, we do that for most every bill and we are lucky to get a couple of board members and one old grumpy tired guy who just got off a ten hour overnight!
Maybe you are right, maybe we should get together more and do something!
Well, I'm here now and will gladly assist any way I can.
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Whoo I just got home...made a day of it to check out Sheels and a couple of the pawn shops for any deals I couldnt pass up... Great turn out! Lot of fun.
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made a day of it to check out Sheels
bet ya that didn't take long...those poor guys can't keep anything in stock.
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bet ya that didn't take long...those poor guys can't keep anything in stock.
Yeah it was pretty much in and out. I'm completely glad they're out of stock though. More support.
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YES! we need to get together more often. And interact more with our government officials.
HMMM How can we do that?
Here's a few thoughts;
How about a yearly meeting where various Senators and such are invited and we can talk politics over a nice meal and do a little shooting, too? Oh ya we tried that- maybe 20 people show.
I know! Let put together some Meet and Greets with prospective candidates and discuss our views in a relaxed sort of setting. Oh crap, we did that, too and maybe 10 members showed up.
HEY! Here is a crazy idea! Let's take a day and spend it IN the capital visiting with our representatives in the legislature on a one on one basis. Then take a few minutes and oversee the debates and voting on the floor. Make our presence known that we are watching. Oh Hell, we did that, too. we had, what maybe 20 people at that event also.
And now this one will blow your freeking mind! How about when the Judicial Committee meets to discuss and take public testimony on a bill relative to our cause, let's sit in and back our lobbyist or even testify to the committee. Oh nevermind, we do that for most every bill and we are lucky to get a couple of board members and one old grumpy tired guy who just got off a ten hour overnight!
Maybe you are right, maybe we should get together more and do something!
Hey I just joined a month or two ago, But I am always glad to help or do some speaking or drink your wine ;) and we have from what it looks like to me a ton of new people have joined recently.
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175 new members in the last 10 days 8)
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Thanks to everyone who showed up! KLKN interviewed me. I was not ready but I did it anyway and they only used one question I answered which wasn't too bad. I didn't see anything on Omaha channels, and not much on any large networks.....Sadly. I'm sure that with the rally in Lincoln along with those across the nation though that we got the attention of some people in government.
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As I was attempting in hopes of drawing in of the women of our state in personal right to carry, your correct the press didn't have the coverage I had also hoped it would be.
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I dont get what you guys are talking about.
Our rally was the lead story on both KLKN (ABC-8) and KOLN (CBS-10/11) last night at 10pm and that is also their lead story right now on their websites.
http://www.klkntv.com/story/20631987/hundreds-turn-out-for-anti-gun-control-rally (http://www.klkntv.com/story/20631987/hundreds-turn-out-for-anti-gun-control-rally)
http://www.1011now.com/home/headlines/Hundreds-Attend-Protest-on-Gun-Control-at-State-Capitol-187607721.html (http://www.1011now.com/home/headlines/Hundreds-Attend-Protest-on-Gun-Control-at-State-Capitol-187607721.html)
The right to life march that had probably 4 to 5 times more people attend their rally two hours prior did not even get a mention on Lincoln tv news last night.
I personally think that makes a major statement.
NOW, on the other hand, the Lincoln Urinal Star does not make one mention online anywhere that I can find. I dont subscribe to the hard copy, so maybe there was something in this mornings paper that is not online yet, but knowing how far left they lean, no coverage at all does not suprise me.
Overall, I think it was a successful event and was carried out very responsibly.
66bigblock
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KETV 7 in Obamaha had a story on their 6 and 10pm news last night, but I can't find anything on their website about it.
KMTV 3 in Obamaha had a story on their website, but no video.
UK Guardian link to coverage of the many rallies nationwide: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265174/Gunning-change-Thousands-armed-protestors-gather-state-capitols-pro-assault-rifle-rallies-country.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265174/Gunning-change-Thousands-armed-protestors-gather-state-capitols-pro-assault-rifle-rallies-country.html)
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Overall, I think it was a successful event and was carried out very responsibly.
66bigblock
Hopefully we'll see and increase in numbers here on the NFOA and activism to or reps both State and U.S. wise.... just Like Sen Kinter said to be effective YOU MUST CONTACT Your REP.... contact, contact, contact, contact.... I would think then maybe they'll get the idea. By email, phone, and the letter.
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WOWT online video report of rally...
http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Gun-Advocates-Rally-Against-Government-187598771.html (http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Gun-Advocates-Rally-Against-Government-187598771.html)
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I believe there is to be a second national rally on Feb 8 although I don't know the details
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I have heard of it, but a Friday is the worst day to do this for me
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That was not a bad article. Could have been worse for sure. ::)
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I have heard of it, but a Friday is the worst day to do this for me
Yeah, unlike the OWS people, most of us have to work during the week.....
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Thanks to everyone who came out! Seems to have generated some serious chatter. I believe it went a long ways towards raising awareness and showing opposition to the current media hoopla.
Sorry I was not able to make it.